Hm yeah, summer of rave != summer of love...

Cherches aussi "L'inhibition de l'action" je crois que c'est de Laborit également, c'est époustouflant ce que ça révèle sur notre monde d'aujourd'hui... Et plus ;-)

En voici un résumé... À lire et méditer... Y'a beaucoup à voir là-dedans!

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Dude, whoa... It's what I've been trying to say, but with such better words than mine. Props.

C'est moi, je transpire beaucoup quand je rave, c'est pour ça que j'enlève mon chandail, mais ça mouille le plancher. :o)

I find your comment very intelligent and well-put.

I agree, there is an accepting-ness to the rave scene that is absent pretty much everywhere else.

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Remove spaces between the brackets... ;)

That's ... drum roll ... Absurd. Although if you did a rabbit and showed up at "Rewire" like that, you'd be the life of the party. For 2 hours. :-P

Pass

July 1st to be here and I get to move in with my yummylicious wondrous lady of luvviness.

The happy skeleton dance?

I am caught between "Purty! Funky!" and "OMFG what kind of monstrous personality wears this?"

I guess with the right attitude it would be fine.

Oh my... Why.

schlechtskrankheit is bad disease, ton is clay, so it means something like "the bad clay disease" or somesuch... Like something that would make you look like you are made of clay?

Yeah, they now seem to be charging for it though. :(

Big thanks for the link!! :)

Oui à ce que j'ai vu sur le site du TSF y'a 3 salles, je m'attendais vraiment à y voir un chillroom, ce qui aurait fait du bien... Je serais resté plus tard si j'avais pu me reposer vraiment, pis être avec le monde.

Quant à moi, vieux comme je suis, je vois pas le besoin de 2 salles, dans le vieux temps les rave avaient juste une salle pis tout le monde ENSEMBLE, pis une chill-room ou le monde chillait ensemble. Pas que j'aie pas aimé les 2 salles à Soma 2008, j'ai passé à peu près le même temps dans une pis dans l'autre. Mais pas dans les 2 en même temps...

La musique était vraiment géniale pis les salles très bien. J'aurais préféré un son qui fesse plus, mais ça, on dirait que je voudrais toujours que ça fesse plusse... :O

That was the theory, yes.

It might have been a start towards people learning to love each other. Maybe it was, for a short while.

In fact, it seems to have become a way to "belong" to a "clique".

The music and decorations still make for a fun time though. And there are some nice people. People who don't just "act nice because it's a rave".

"Progressive electronica" yeah... That sounds pretty yummy actually, you don't see nearly enough of that anymore!! :)

At Soma I did the 5-htp during the trip thing. During the day of the 31st, I consumed 300mg of r-ALA, a fairly significant amount.

Whereas I usually consume 3 pills for a good, long night (remember I am 240lbs at this time), at soma I used only 2.5, like this: 1.5, then 0.5 1 hour after the first 1.5, then 100mg 5-htp 3 hours after that, which got me rolling again, then 0.5 2 hours after that, then 100mg 5-htp 2 hours after that. At about 10PM on Jan 1st, my pupils were still dilated and some leftovers from my roll were felt. I had been unable to get to sleep all day whereas without the 5-htp I am able to, even though my rolls are speedier in themselves. So I kinda had a full, long night and the better part of the next day out of my 2.5 pills.

It has now been a week, serotonin depletion symptoms were just about nonexistent and I am very aware and sensitive to them. Overall I give the 5-htp during the night along with ALA two thumbs up. It does make an obvious difference not only in both the QUALITY *AND* length of the trip, but also in the downer effects afterwards.

I am now taking more or less 2 months off any E, coz that was my 3rd time in a month and I feel my grey matter deserves a bit of a rest now.

Happy 2008 everyone, rave hard and safe!!! :)

One coffee is never enough.

OMFG he thinks I am being serious... Now THAT is scary!! :)

"indirect threats" LMAO

- Find a way to sleep less than 11 hours a day and still function
- Get more musclebound
- Grow some arrogance, so that people who look at things with a purely negative point of view can be justified in thinking that I might be arrogant
- Learn to be negative in order to appear more normal
- Get proof of my lineage so as to remove that "bastard" label off my reputation on [ rave.ca ]
- Get on Dr. N's good side, which probably entails having him GROW ONE in the first place

Can I ask what the link between the gurl and the CD might be? Although the pic itself has its charm... :)

Damn, it looks even better than mine... Is that a touch screen? How much does it go for?

I might take you up on that... I threw out all my rave clothes 5 years ago....

Full on psy! Woooohooooooo!!! :)

Underworld - I'm a big sister, and I'm a Girl and I'm a Princess and This is my Horse EP

Those are interesting.

I have used 5-MeO-DiPT (5-methoxy-diisopropyltryptamine) which was euphoric the first time but only did paranoia after that. I eventually threw it away... 450mg of the stuff... My apologies.

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Clearly well-thought-out posting here :)

A simultaneous coup d'état in most of the world's countries and elimination of the heads of the world's top 10,000 corporations might do something.

That would be a tad more complicated than Al-Qaeda smashing some planes into the WTC towers, and I'm not saying that is anything like what actually happened...

Overall, I prefer waiting for them to do their "world government" and take things from there. Once power is fully centralized, it will be easier to wreck their plan.

Until then, bite the bullet, there will be pain.

Nope, people are way too busy working extra hours to pay their bills to get involved with all that stuff. It is, and always will be, a minority who does have the time and energy to expend on these things.

Moreover, there are no systems that might work, as concentration of money and power invariably attracts ruthless vultures. The only thing you can take care of is your own life, nothing else.

Sorry.

They don't get humiliated, they get SATISFIED because protests demonstrate the illusion that people have that they can actually change something. They can't. There is no "democracy" but a word in the newspapers.

See, people like Harper WANT you to hate him. That is what they relish. Hating him means you are emotional about his person and what he does, and emotion INVARIABLY clouds judgement. Thus, you cannot see the scheme within the scheme within the scheme, but you are instead caught up in how things LOOK, which is EXACTLY where he wants you and your cohorts. These are VERY DEVIOUS people here. Bush WANTS to appear dumb, for the reality of what he is is MUCH more dire.

Of course, I have pecs, therefore I am a moron. For, surely, if I were smart, I would choose to look like a corpse. That is much better.

Keep to the topic.

No matter who you elect, freedoms all get eroded all the same. They promise one thing then just do whatever. Learn history. Get perspective. The only thing you CAN have any power over is yourself, your own life, and yes your body.

Concentration of power and money attracts vultures, and only the most ruthless ones get to it. Ruthless power/money-hungry people will NEVER DO ANYTHING than what serves THEM best because that is the very motivation that got them there in the first place.

Although they will lie about it and tell people that they will do this and that for them, etc. Morons believe them. Morons believe they are trying, but are too dumb to succeed. The ones with a clue realize it is all on purpose. Deceit, power. Money.

I'll not get into arguments with someone dumb enough to think that muscle mass is invariably inversely proportional to mind ability.

C'était réussi!! Mon premier rave en ... 6 ans? :)

Le monde était fin, la chill-room ULTRA-GÉNIALE, La musique bonne, la main room bien décorée mais trop illuminée à mon goût et ... je suis exigeant, c'est vrai, mais le son aurait pu être plus fort... Je donnerais 9/10 si la soirée avait coûté $20 ou plus, mais pour $15 c'était vraiment super. 9.5/10.

I had fun.

No...

I had A BLAST.

The music was everywhere between great and out-of-your-fucking-mind-fantastic... I mean, I have raved in my life, but mostly before that electro stuff... Damn. I mean *DAMN*!!!!

There were some very nice people too!

A chillroom would have been nice. Harder sound too. But those are truly minor things compared to the goodness of the whole thing. Props to the promoters and organizers, this was surely the most fun new year's eve in Montreal. 9.5/10.

ADDED: Now how the hell do you get to trip out better than that? Where to now? How on earth do you get a better musical experience than that? Ph34r...

Protests don't work. They are based on the ILLUSION that we live in a democracy. Wake up, smell the coffee, these people do WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT...

No "protests" will change that.

Je blaste personne... Jvas écrire en anglah parce qu'il semble que les anglah parlent pas françah icitte comme ailleurs mais que les françah parlent anglah.

So anyway, I started raving at 28, I am now 40. I had a pretty intense blast at Soma. I didn't "make friends" with nearly as many people as I did at any rave 12 years ago, even though by any measure I am much friendlier now. I was then generally more blasé about life than I am now, and to tell you the truth some of the music (like nuclear ramjet in the electro room at Soma) is downright fantastically trippy, and in my taste better than anything from back in "my day"...

Sorry if that isn't the answer you were hoping for...

Yeah OK so, I apologize for taking so long to get back to you guys, I had to brush up on my neurology. I hadn't studied this stuff in about 10 years and expected to find new ground-breaking research and science on the topic. I am disappointed, as the research seems to not have advanced at all in the last 10 years or so. Anyway, here goes:

Basically SSRI's are a pretty bad idea when taking ecstasy, and 5-HTP is a GREAT idea.

Here is why:

Oxidative stress occurs in the presynaptic cell, the one which releases the serotonin, when dopamine enters it. Dopamine does not normally enter presynaptic serotonin neurons but MDMA forces the serotonin reuptake pump to function in reverse, whereby it dumps the serotonin out. This is fine until there is no more serotonin in the neuron, and the pump, functioning in reverse, does something pretty weird: it then pumps dopamine into the neuron. This is how the serotonin enters the neuron and wreaks havoc, generating oxidative stress through the action of MAO's (MAO-B in this case).

Let me be very clear about this:

AS LONG AS THERE IS SEROTONIN BEING RELEASED BY THE NEURONS INTO THE SYNAPSE, DOPAMINE IS UNABLE TO ENTER AND TRIGGER OXIDATIVE DAMAGE.

So what you need in order to protect your brain is to make sure that you DON'T RUN OUT OF SEROTONIN. Interestingly, that is also what will keep you feeling GOOD. Of course, humongous amounts of serotonin might result in serotonin syndrome, which is no fun. Potentially deadly of course.

5-htp is a direct precursor to serotonin and will greatly increase production within an hour of oral administration. So it can successfully be used DURING the ecstasy experience in order to prolong and improve the quality of the experience. 5-htp overdose can be lethal, though, so use some degree of common sense. More on that later.

SSRI's prevent the serotonin-reuptake pump from releasing the serotonin into the synapse. This is the main "enjoyable" Effect of MDMA. By taking a SSRI you basically cancel out the good effects of MDMA but cancel out its ability to damage your brain too. Of course, a case can be made for SSRI's 3-4 hours into the MDMA experience, but I don't know about you, that's when my fun is just beginning...

The second line of protection has been clearly stated by lacasse.bob who recommends the ultimate anti-oxidant, called alpha lipoic acid, as a protection against oxidative stress should dopamine enter the serotonin axon. It should be noted that no other antioxidant compares in this purpose. Now in practical use, ALA should not be taken on an empty stomach, because it can drastically lower blood sugar levels, and believe me, you don't need that while dancing the night away. Also, for some people such as myself, ALA on an empty stomach creates a very dislikable burning sensation. I have not experienced this while on E and frankly, I am sure I don't want to.

Back to 5-htp. Normal day-to-day doses of 5-htp should be about 100mg. For me, taking 250mg every single day is simply too much. Something weird happens to my digestive system and after some days I don't feel so good, I get shaky, cold and sweaty at the same time. Yes, this is the onset of serotonin syndrome. During an ecstasy experience, I would recommend not more than 100mg per dose, maybe 2 doses during the night. This compares favorably to my single-shot 250mg dose, although I am much larger than most people on this forum.

Perhaps people experimenting with this will discover that they can use much much larger amounts of 5-htp than under normal circumstances. It would certainly make sense, since serotonin is getting depleted at a much higher rate than normal, that it would be OK to use more 5-htp than normal. But the last thing we need is people going to the hospital from 5-htp though, so proceed carefully.

I plan on having capsules filled with 100mg 5-htp and 100mg Na-r-ALA (equivalent to 50mg r-ALA), and the rest with vitamin C with me at Soma. If you are interested, say hi and I might have some extra for you guys. I'm easy to spot, I look like I spent the last 15 years lifting weights, taking steroids and eating farm animals. :)

Got any time slots in here?