So Who Here Actually Buys Their Music?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MsShlee replied on Thu Jul 9, 2009 @ 12:30pm |
 Coolness: 50420 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
Must have been gay porn... nope straight oddly enough concidering i dont often watchin straight porn... lol |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Jul 9, 2009 @ 3:49pm |
 Coolness: 685585 | I've seen a porn once that had a scene where not only was there DnB playing, but one of the girls started out wearing a Drumz shirt. That made me really LOL. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JEE3.14_agricole replied on Thu Jul 9, 2009 @ 3:54pm |
 Coolness: 107230 | porn is overated!
try butt-sex |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DiddyKong replied on Thu Jul 9, 2009 @ 3:56pm |
 Coolness: 132140 | Originally Posted By JEEPEE_AGRICOLE
porn is overated! try butt-sex Ayoye man... sa c'est l'best !! Butt-sex is AWESOME!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Thu Jul 9, 2009 @ 4:43pm |
 Coolness: 282450 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
I've seen a porn once that had a scene where not only was there DnB playing, but one of the girls started out wearing a Drumz shirt. That made me really LOL. link plz? need fapping |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu Jul 9, 2009 @ 5:35pm |
| Coolness: 685585 | was years ago on either Empornium or PureTNA, it's not up anymore, but it was called Art School Sluts 2 :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Thu Jul 9, 2009 @ 6:01pm |
 Coolness: 86500 | ya I once saw a porn that had an oldskool atmospheric Photek track playing in it, strangely enuff |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JEE3.14_agricole replied on Thu Jul 9, 2009 @ 6:02pm |
| Coolness: 107230 | quite a bunch of experts i can c ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Thu Jul 9, 2009 @ 9:24pm |
 Coolness: 145195 | i wonder why more porn doesn't have booty playing in it??? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry replied on Thu Jul 9, 2009 @ 10:05pm |
 Coolness: 73080 | probably does, just search "big booty bitches" or "pop em thangs" |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Fri Jul 10, 2009 @ 12:09am |
| Coolness: 282450 | exactly - wait up late watching american chanels and you'll see mad commercials for dvd's like that  HOOD RAT ASS SLAMMERS 5 |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MsShlee replied on Fri Jul 10, 2009 @ 9:46am |
| Coolness: 50420 | Originally Posted By DJ_SAIYAN
Man, some of you people are fucking hilarious. I was going to cuss out all you music pirates but I'm laughing so hard at the absurdity of some of you thinking it's okay to steal music and DJ with it that I can barely put this one sentence together. Y'all crack me up. qft |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Fri Jul 10, 2009 @ 10:47am |
 Coolness: 93095 | Originally Posted By MSSHLEE
qfF fixed! Ufot=ya right, get real |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DiddyKong replied on Fri Jul 10, 2009 @ 11:15am |
| Coolness: 132140 | Niki Belucci and Silvia Rocca ROCK!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Jul 12, 2009 @ 11:05am |
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The fight over music piracy has become increasingly brutal in recent months, with heated debate turning to outright culture-clash. A large segment of the population would readily agree that pirated music is stolen music, because that’s what they’ve read in the newspapers. Arguably, many of these law-abiding citizens don’t own (or often use) a computer, much less a digital copy of a song. Yet they make claims and argue points just as the RIAA’s lawyers do in court, daily. Here are eight rebuttals to such arguments. 1. It’s Not That Expensive to Just Pay For It The argument that the cost to pay for all your music, whether it be via online sources such as iTunes or from the local music store is often cited as common sense, but only by those who can afford it. Rarely will you find a person who is living in studio apartment the size of a shoebox extolling the virtues of paying for music, because it’s super affordable. In the climate of recession and even outright global, financial failure, this argument is used less and less, but still used. If the average cost of an album is set at $15, then buying just three such albums a month could mean spending over $500 yearly on music. In more severe cases, that money can make the difference between sleeping in a bed and sleeping on someone’s couch. It is in this writer’s humble opinion that, if you fall into this demographic – you are totally justified in listening to music you did not pay to listen to. 2. Music Piracy Causes Huge Amounts of Economic Damage According to the RIAA, not only does music piracy alone cause $12.5 billion in losses every year, but this crime results in 71,060 lost jobs per annum. These figures are amazing, especially considering the failure sof General Motors and Chrysler are estimated to have cost approximately 40,000 jobs; according to these statistics, music industry losses alone due to music piracy is a sum greater than the Gross Domestic Products many of the world’s developing countries. Arguments such as this are hard to swallow when the supposed “data” to back them up is furnished by the plaintiff party. 3. The RIAA Will Get Better if Piracy Stops The logic behind this argument is nothing short of naivete. A tyrannical, overly powerful organization with government backing that is concerned only about profits will not suddenly decide to change their business practices if they have no reason to do so. While the RIAA has sued 30,000 people on charges of copyright infringement, countless others are defying the laws that they wield as weapons. If not for piracy, the RIAA would have no discussions of lowering the price of music, and no reason at all to start treating artists better. They would hold all the cards in a world without piracy. In the world we live in, that’s known as a monopoly. 4. It’s So Much Easier to Use a Pay Service Any user worth their salt can tell you that nothing short of a typhoon is going to stop them from getting any album in less than 20 minutes. While someone who is completely computer-illiterate may think their only option is to use the streamlined pay-services for their digital music, they’re mistaken. Last year the Times Online reported a study that showed the average teenager in the UK has 800 pirated songs on his or her digital music player of choice. If that’s the average, then the overwhelming odds are that anybody can navigate their way to pirated music quickly and easily. 5. Pirated Music Is Lower Quality This is simply a myth. Inexperienced users who don’t know what they’re doing may inadvertently download lower quality data at first. But they may also quickly learn the terminology surrounding digital music and learn from their nascent stage mistakes. The fact is, most digital music available online for legitimate download, while of high enough quality to satisfy listeners, is not the highest bit-rate available. As piracy communities have grown and matured, the quality of data being offered has risen drastically from the ancient history of the 90’s. The music you find on The Pirate Bay may well be of higher quality than that of Rhapsody.Imagine that? 6. Pirate Music Libraries Are Messy Going hand-in-hand with the issue of bit-rates, meta-data is often thought to be something only available from stores like iTunes. Again, just as with the quality of data, the completeness of that data has risen as well among piracy communities. In fact, supplying more complete, higher quality data is seen as virtuous and respected greatly. As such, many albums include more complete meta-data, note files with extra information, along with several versions of album covers, and even import versions of songs along with domestic. Open-source mentality reigns in piracy communities, and that means quality or banishment. 7. You Don’t Support the Bands By Pirating Their Music This might be true if record labels paid bands all the money from their album sales – but they don’t. Artists make the overwhelming majority of their revenue from live concerts and special engagement tickets, and merchandise sales. Record companies make money off album sales. They effectively buy the artist’s work, and act as though they own the rights to distribute it, but they don’t own the artist or their ability to perform their own music. Music piracy doesn’t pirate concert tickets, that’s the job of the growing ticket-sales racket both on and off-line, which has sparked its own controversies lately as more fans (including pirates) try to support their favorite bands by paying to see them. This argument could even be taken a step further by poising a rhetorical questions: “How many people have gone to pay for tickets at a concert featuring a band that they first discovered due to pirated/redistributed material?” 8. Piracy is Breaking the Law So was the Boston Tea Party. So are the protests in Iran. Many things are illegal, that doesn’t make them wrong or even immoral. Using this argument as a blanket explanation why “music pirates” are wrong, will only incense them, and rightfully so. Most people who cite this claim are completely unaware of the RIAA’s very existence, much less its remarkable penchant for evil. People who listen to pirated music don’t feel guilty when they press play, and they certainly don’t lose any sleep over what they’ve done simply because it happens to be illegal. They know that despite the RIAA’s claims that downloading a pirated song is equal to stealing a car (a really nice car, at $80,000 per song) are ridiculous, and they know that their own Internet Service Providers don’t even agree with the claim either. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Sun Jul 12, 2009 @ 12:34pm |
 Coolness: 146320 | I totally agree with these 8 points... I've always loved music and it's always been my #1 passion (muuuuusic waaaaas my fiiiiirst loooooove :P ), and since almost 10 years of having owned a computer, I've collected around 30,000 songs in about 3,000 albums (my computer just did the math for me, I had no idea). And I'm only talking about "bands", almost no electronically-produced music and mixes, here.
Of course I don't own a CD/tape/vinyl copy of all of this ! 3,000 x 15 = 45,000 $, which is approximately the total amount of my earned revenues in my whole life (ok I'm still kinda student, but anyways...). And I don't feel guilty at all. When I want to support a band, I buy their merch (recordings, clothes, anything...) and I go to their shows. Most of what I own is underground or indie labels, which I would like to support more than I do, but I'm not feeling bad. I listen to them, which is what they want. I spread their music, which is what they want. I contribute to their "fame", and in average, they even get some money from me. I've also been playing music for over 10 years, I've had several bands, I've played live shows, I've recorded demos and albums, and it's almost always cost me money, and I'm really happy this way. Actually, I don't think music (nor art in general) is meant to be one's essential source of money. I like artists, don't get me wrong; I consider myself as one, although it's not getting me any money. It's a passion and a hobbie, and I agree to pay myself a little to be able to enjoy it. In fact, I even hope I'll never earn lots of money from anything artistic. To me, putting money in art is killing it. Seriously. Art (such as music) is something you express with your guts, something that comes from the bottom of your heart, something kinda spontaneous, something you don't command and order around by waving a stack of bank notes to get it work. It's a choice I make, not to do art for a living. Of course, if one of my bands/projects gets known and brings me much more money than I spent for it, I will be tempted to get deeper into this business. Of course, if some guy wants me to sign a contract which would get me enough money to live from my music, I will think about it and maybe even sign it (but even then, it depends, and I don't know until it happens). I just hope this won't happen. I'm pretty sure it would eat bit after bit of the soul I put into art, and make my existence more difficult... a life of champagne, coke, and whores in a huge house isn't exactly the kind of life I'm wishing for. I know this is an exaggeration, but you get my point. Music, and any kind of art, is a way of expressing one's self. It's also a way for others to enjoy life, through this expression of artists. And then, hopefully for most, this experience is getting through them and getting to others, eventually giving something back to the original artist. It's a continuous flow of life experience, and it's called culture. It's not "I produce, you pay". ...but I guess the problem in this thread is something else : should DJs pay for the tracks they play in front of people ? I don't know. It's doesn't bother me that some don't. It disturbs me a little that some people take pride in having paid for 100% of what they play in public and want everybody else to do so. I don't really produce electronic tracks, yet, though. I'm DJing too (although it's been less than 2 years), and I'm still sticking to vinyl, and I've bought all of my records so far (around 400, which cost me quite a lot - too much, if you ask me). I've tried mixing CDs, but the feeling is weird, to me... I know you can do more, though, so I won't spit on CDs. I love vinyl records, their feel, their look, the sleeves, their fragile nature, and their unique sound. I'll probably get to something like serato someday, and I'll probably never pay for an electronic track. I don't really know why, but I'm really not comfortable with paying for a computer file. Maybe it's because I've grown up during the revolution era of personal computers. Maybe it's because I haven't accepted this possible future yet; and maybe I don't want it. But I don't plan to stop buying vinyls, not ever. I know it takes time to produce music, would it be with a computer or not. I know it costs money. But I think that if you produce music and expect it to get you more money than what it cost you, there's something wrong. You're the artist, you're supposed to have fun and enjoy producing music. If producing is a pain in the ass for you, if you think of it as a job, then chances are your music won't really be interesting (at least, not for me). I respect everybody's point of view, and I defend my own. I don't mind paying to see a DJ if I think the party will be worth it. But honestly, free parties are most of the time much better than others; or at least, parties in the spirit of free parties, even with a small cover fee. But this is another debate. ...just sayin'... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Jul 12, 2009 @ 12:49pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM replied on Mon Jul 13, 2009 @ 9:50pm |
 Coolness: 164795 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
qft |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fishead replied on Tue Jul 14, 2009 @ 8:08am |
 Coolness: 75665 | where does this sense of entitlement come from?
I mean... all the arguments boil down to people whining that "the things I want cost more than I can afford!" |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Tue Jul 14, 2009 @ 10:13am |
| Coolness: 93095 | Originally Posted By FISHEAD
where does this sense of entitlement come from? I mean... all the arguments boil down to people whining that "the things I want cost more than I can afford!" yes, and it's easier to steal software than a mercedes? so your point is? Ufot-i would love a mercedes |
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