So Who Here Actually Buys Their Music?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Omni replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 11:54am |
 Coolness: 87570 | Originally Posted By N.A
If you see your dj playing nothing but burnt CDs, and they aren't his tunes, cut his salary! give the balance to the old dude who brought records ;) I'm not too sure about that one. I play only burnt CDs (who buys CD singles anyways?)... yet they are all filled with music that I bought online on sites such as Beatport. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 12:08pm |
 Coolness: 153000 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
Of course what Deadfunk fails to mention (that he mentioned that last time the topic came up) is that he didn't buy any of the software or VSTs he produces with, which is the exact same thing as a DJ playing out tunes he hasn't payed for. HAHAHAHA i knew from the start you'd come up with this, you really doesnt have anything to do really? do you think id go and buy a digi 003 with pro tool hd for 15 000$, just to make not even 100$ of money from track, per year? seriously fred, trying to diverse the subject of the conversation on me, is nothing but a big fail. if the thread was about "who uses cracked vst" i wouldnt even reply in it, but its about downloading and mixing publicly stolen unreleased/shitty song. but hey, since you got no other things to say, why not pointing me out( in the same fact that 99% of the people USES cracked vst, EVEN YOU. but hey, you are perfect right? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 12:30pm |
 Coolness: 685585 | Originally Posted By DEADFUNK
but hey, you are perfect right? I never said I was perfect, but it's just incredibly hipocritical to bash people for making money and promoting themselves with one form of piracy and then turning around and making money and promoting yourself with another form of piracy! Practice what you preach. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 12:44pm |
| Coolness: 153000 | hey, whats the problem with supporting artists?
you exactly know why this is getting nowhere, and i dont even want to start this all over again. i didnt know you where getting bitched-on on doa, but you know what, it doesnt even surprise me! ohh, and where did i "bashed" people? i only see me saying my opignon about illegal mp3 downloads, i didnt force anyone to do anything. seriously fred, you are an asshole, you think the world revolves around you, i got news for you, most of us dont care about you and your close-mindness on any subject you have. ohh and btw, dont even bother replying, because i wont, talking with you is like talking with a wall, but the wall cries, whines, and point out other people to protect himself and diverse attention from him when he cant hold up to what he says. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 12:49pm |
 Coolness: 91385 | Originally Posted By SUBTONE
After a certain 20+ page doa thread with over 20,000 views, this city is now officially the laughing stock of the international d'n'b community. link plz |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MelooDie replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 1:06pm |
 Coolness: 248420 | I paid all the tracks i'M playing.I got in this argument with a lot of people tho! The worst is when you PAY for a track,and the dj at the same night as you play the same track he didn't give a penny for in your face.It happened to me and since it was a track of Deekline ,that i really likes and knows personally,i got really pissed off.I explain the *kid* how disrespectful it is for the producers to steal music,and if everyone was doing it,then no producers will do tracks.BUT then his answer was just like: yeah wtv.blah blah.Like talking to a wall.I bought a shitload of viinyls myself,now i'M on the digital side,but hey,what is it to pay 20-40$ for a Bunch of tracks you like instead of 2 records for the same price.If your passion is music i guess that deserve some money to pass on.I bought my traktor scratch as well,all my shit is legit and i'M really proud of it.The only tracks i play that i don't pay,it's the artist who post it THEMSELF to download on Myspace or wtv.Or they send it to me On facebook or wtv. 320 or GTFO
I want to see the link too if it's possible. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Subtone replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 2:20pm |
 Coolness: 34885 | Originally Posted By SOURULTRAFAST
link plz [ www.dogsonacid.com ] Originally Posted By screwhead
I never said I was perfect, but it's just incredibly hipocritical to bash people for making money and promoting themselves with one form of piracy and then turning around and making money and promoting yourself with another form of piracy! Practice what you preach. I'm quite happy to list off all the software and sample CD purchases Ive made over the last 10 years, but really, you're comparing apples with oranges to a certain extent. The production software and electronic music industries are very different. Both have a niche product, but only one market is saturated and showing trends of dying out. You wouldn't feel guilty for eating a sirloin steak, but (assuming you have a conscience) you should feel guilty for eating shark's fin or some other endangered delicacy. Also, many of the DAWs released over the last few years have solid copy/crack protection mechanisms, digital music doesn't really have such features. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 2:31pm |
| Coolness: 685585 | Originally Posted By SUBTONE
I'm quite happy to list off all the software and sample CD purchases Ive made over the last 10 years, but really, you're comparing apples with oranges to a certain extent. The production software and electronic music industries are very different. Both have a niche product, but only one market is saturated and showing trends of dying out. You wouldn't feel guilty for eating a sirloin steak, but (assuming you have a conscience) you should feel guilty for eating shark's fin or some other endangered delicacy. Also, many of the DAWs released over the last few years have solid copy/crack protection mechanisms, digital music doesn't really have such features. To an extent, yeah it's different, but really not all that much. Step 1: download something you didn't pay for Step 2: use said ill-gotten download to make something that promotes yourself in some way Step 3: make money from sales/events bassed off promotion of material aquired illegaly Be it a DAW, video-editing program, Photoshop, MP3s, movies to be used by VJs for clips, it all DOES boil down to someone not paying for something that makes them money. Now I fully understand the whole argument of how much it costs to get started; 99% of the people aren't going to go out and buy a DAW and a handfull of VSTs on a whim in the same way they'd buy a cheap mexican Strat and an 8" peavy shitbox amp.. But if you start making money with your ill-gotten software, invest it back into the company and actually purchase what you use and don't keep going on with the cracked versions. For trial and learning I can totally understand the whole 'try before you buy' aspect, since most trial versions of DAWs are crippled in some ridiculous way (like not saving your work.. you're really not going to get anywhere and learn anything if you have to start from scratch every single time you open the program).. But if you're signed to a label and putting out releases, pony up, because you're doing exactly what you're saying is 'wrong' to do with MP3s. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Subtone replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 2:43pm |
| Coolness: 34885 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
To an extent, yeah it's different, but really not all that much. ........ For trial and learning I can totally understand the whole 'try before you buy' aspect, since most trial versions of DAWs are crippled in some ridiculous way (like not saving your work.. you're really not going to get anywhere and learn anything if you have to start from scratch every single time you open the program).. But if you're signed to a label and putting out releases, pony up, because you're doing exactly what you're saying is 'wrong' to do with MP3s. Don;t go around calling people hypocrites because the same goes for buying tunes. If you're serious enough about the music that you put mixes out into the public domain to get gigs, and then actually get gigs, use your 40 dollar or whatever dj fee to buy some fuckin tunes. You're quite the immoral anarchist, aren't you? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mutante replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 2:44pm |
 Coolness: 76175 | whats that exactly?
who is the best to make other feel guilty of downloading tracks "illegaly" , of using cracked software, of using other artists samples without paying rights? common. its a endless debate. at the end its everybody's choice. as soon as you choose to be in this business you are supposed to be aware of whats going on and right now the rules are changing. i'm not taking side here but both have points. everybody is the evil of somebody else. don't forget : home fucking is killing prostitution...... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 2:44pm |
 Coolness: 83870 | Originally Posted By SUBTONE
I cant think of any other reason why someone would want to do that other than falsely giving out the impression that they are personally 'down' with the artist. This falls under the banner of delusions of grandeur, a symptom of many psychological disorders. I disagree with that... Part of being a good dj is playing the freshest new tunes BEFORE anyone else. sure some ppl might think your a shit head if your a bootlegger... but hey... ya still played it first!! and honestly... i think all the elitism is part of the downfall of dj culture. what happened to all the white label promos man!!! there fuckin' scarce now that digital has taken over. you can't score those advance promos through distro anymore. and if you can it's 6 months after the fact. the only way to get that shit is to suck dicks and unfortunately... not everybody is down with that. i have a pretty sick collection of white label advances that i bought and paid for... and had a good rep in the city for a long while for having the sickest boots in town because i knew where to get em. unfortunately those kinda tunes are a lot harder to come by now and dj sets seem to lack some luster when they only include the top ten downloads on beatport. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 2:46pm |
| Coolness: 685585 | hey, point me to a record store that has any DnB vinyl in Montreal and I'll gladly spend some cash on records! Not as much as I'd like to, but I'd absolutley be putting money into it. As great as serato/CDJs are, for me it's vinyl or I don't buy it (maaaaaaybe CD I'd get, but that's a big maybe, I'd rather spend 50$ on a 4x12" than 20$ on 1 CD with 10+ tunes) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Subtone replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 2:49pm |
| Coolness: 34885 | Originally Posted By MUTANTE
whats that exactly? who is the best to make other feel guilty of downloading tracks "illegaly" , of using cracked software, of using other artists samples without paying rights? common. its a endless debate. at the end its everybody's choice. as soon as you choose to be in this business you are supposed to be aware of whats going on and right now the rules are changing. i'm not taking side here but both have points. everybody is the evil of somebody else. don't forget : home fucking is killing prostitution...... a LOT of people in this thread don't seem to understand what leaked, unreleased tracks are. No one can stop you from playing vinyl rips, and it would be pretty hard to prove (even though its blatantly obvious when a VBR vinyl rip is mixed into a 320k mp3). |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mutante replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 2:58pm |
| Coolness: 76175 | Originally Posted By SUBTONE
a LOT of people in this thread don't seem to understand what leaked, unreleased tracks are. No one can stop you from playing vinyl rips, and it would be pretty hard to prove (even though its blatantly obvious when a VBR vinyl rip is mixed into a 320k mp3). first i may misunderstand you coz my english is so bad that it hurts ;) but believe me man, i do understand where you coming from... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 3:38pm |
| Coolness: 153000 | screwhead, the last store i went to had dnb, paul's boutique on mont-royal has some. they even have hardcore like ISR. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ONE.LAB.RAT replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 3:53pm |
 Coolness: 76135 | Originally Posted By DEADFUNK
paul's boutique on mont-royal has some. they even have hardcore like ISR. i would be surprise if they have something i don't have. so, were is the store? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 3:55pm |
| Coolness: 685585 | Awesome, I'm actually going to go as soon as I get a bit of cash and hope that they've got some of the tunes I want, though if it's the same one that used to be on St Laurent I doubt they'll have too much in the way of skullstep, but hey I won't know untill I go! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ONE.LAB.RAT replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 4:24pm |
| Coolness: 76135 | i don't bring cd that i bought, coz they get stolen or scrap, so i make a selection and burn cd, if i lose a burnt cd it's not a big lost. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Sickness replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 7:28pm |
 Coolness: 140050 | in my opinion, downloading a track to listen to it isnt really that bad, but downloading it to after play it live and make a little money outta if is acting without any consideration of the artist who took a shitload of time doing the track.
Only listening make it possible for some artist to get knowned but it doesnt mean you have the right to play it live and/or record a set for your personal greed.... anyway... i never played with cds always records bought from respected websites ( juno / phuturerave) and i get more pride knowing that by playing the records i bought will not only help me release some decent demo but will also benefit the artist who did it. my 2cents lol... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Sun Jun 28, 2009 @ 8:23pm |
 Coolness: 282450 | If I ever get anything illegal sent to me, it stays in a special marked folder and I dont even open it 99% of the time, and if I do, it's to listen to on WINAMP, nothing else, not even a quick club rinse - cause I know there's always someone listening, even if you don't think there is.
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