If You Didn' Think The Conservative Government Was Stupid Before...
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Tue Apr 12, 2011 @ 9:21pm |
 Coolness: 106065 | Why are we led by a quasi-fascist minority government? Because the younger generation is to lazy and dumb to get off there asses and vote.
Don't get me wrong, your vote alone wont tip the elections, but if you are young and planning to not vote, you are playing into the Conservative's plans and ultimately helping them to get reelected, specially if you are in a conservative riding. It will only take a couples of minutes and you can pick up beer on the way home. Don't let the old boomers decide whats right for you. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry replied on Tue Apr 12, 2011 @ 10:42pm |
 Coolness: 73035 | So anybody watch the debates?
Fucking Harper's a broken lying record, he didn't address a single question unless he outright denied it. All he did was consistently repeat that he didn't want an election; which is bs imo. He started his campaign before everyone else... if he really didn't want an election he would have made concessions. The issue is that the guy looks so calm and composed he guarantees the old fart vote. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Tue Apr 12, 2011 @ 10:58pm |
 Coolness: 509510 | so what are the parties really offering? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Tue Apr 12, 2011 @ 11:13pm |
| Coolness: 106065 | The English debate: [ www.cbc.ca ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 5:27am |
 Coolness: 108755 | Originally Posted By BAD_CHEMISTRY
So anybody watch the debates? yup! I thought Ignatieff pulled it off but was pretty arrogant but not nearly as arrogant as the "poor" prime minister asking for a majority government because otherwise he'll be "forced" to work with the evil doers opposition that will ruin the economy. As always Duceppe sucked, he knew it and we all know it, but a bunch of people still will vote for him, including me. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 6:28am |
 Coolness: 166495 | Originally Posted By ALIENZED
so what are the parties really offering? good music, deco, fun, friends, trippin' -- oh, you meant politics ... in that case: NOTHIN'! xD |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 8:18am |
 Coolness: 294925 | Bloc québécois will never be elected, they are only in québec.
The best they can do is the opposition. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 8:19am |
 Coolness: 145150 | lol nathan. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 8:56am |
 Coolness: 88590 | and that would be different from the current system how exactly? What it would differently is actually put some power into everyone's hands, as opposed to the 'poor man' not even having a say
Everyone has the same power at this point, the power to vote. It's called democracy... If your "system" were implemented the rich would have more power to control the government and get laws approved in their favor. It would promote corruption as every party would feel the need to seduce the billionaires instead of trying to please the general population. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Onto the debate... I watched a good part of it yesterday and Layton was much more aggressive than I had expected and I liked it. Harper was backed in a corner trying always reverting to the lower taxes argument when he has an 11 billion dollar magic hole he cant fill. Duceppe looked like an angry dunce that shouldn't debate in english... You can't be a political leader in Canada and have such a poor mastery of either language. Ignatief came in second IMO, he played it safe (for the part I watched at least). I hope the NDP wins it, but I dont think it will happen, now if only they can at least score the opposition I'd be VERY satisfied. Only problem is I see either the liberals or conservatives winning with the other as opposition. And honestly, if I were from another province I'd be thinking: fuck Québec, why should they get a party representing just their one province. Especially with a leader kicking and screaming that the provinces need more power in terms of health care and other major issues... It isn't the frum to start that sort of debate, but I don't think they'll ever get it anyway. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 11:21am |
| Coolness: 145150 | any province can organize a party and elect MPs to the house, you can run candidates in as many places as you want (or as few). People who rail against the bloc for being a one province party (not true they run a candidate in NB)need to go back and take a civics class... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 11:23am |
 Coolness: 166525 | thanks for the link, databoy. i'm off to watch it now.
ans strik_ix my politic views look a lot like everything you wrote in here so far. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 11:49am |
| Coolness: 88590 | basdini: I'm against the bloc for many reasons, the main being that they are taking left winged votes away from left winged parties who's main goals are not to GTFO of Canada.
IMO Duceppe would make a great leader for the PQ or any other Provincial party. The fact that he represents one province and still gets invited to the debate is beyond me, might as well invite the Rhinoceros party while they're at it. What sucks to me is that I know the Bloc will probably get lots of seats thanks to the regional vote from people who feel that the one quebecker represents them best.... Anyway, I've said what I had to say on the Bloc, I think it shouldnt exist and that's that. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 12:49pm |
| Coolness: 106065 | Well the npd in the opposition would do dick all for Quebec, just like the others. And that is why the bloc exists. To make sure Quebec's needs are addressed at the federal level.
About the left vote being divided, do you mean between the block, the npd and the green party? because from one election to the other, neither of those options are ever seriously considered by the media as parties fit to run the country. Or do you consider the Liberals to be to the left?. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 2:46pm |
 Coolness: 131545 | ^^ praise databoy
actually na , you should read this. completely [ fr.wikipedia.org ] tout les raison de voter bloc y sont . "Quand le gouvernement viole les droits du peuple, l'insurrection est, pour le peuple et pour chaque portion du peuple, le plus sacré des droits et le plus indispensable des devoirs" (Article 35 de la Déclaration des Droits de l'Homme et du citoyen, et préambule de la Constitution du 24 juin 1793). |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 3:59pm |
 Coolness: 140635 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
Well the npd in the opposition would do dick all for Quebec, just like the others. And that is why the bloc exists. To make sure Quebec's needs are addressed at the federal level. About the left vote being divided, do you mean between the block, the npd and the green party? because from one election to the other, neither of those options are ever seriously considered by the media as parties fit to run the country. Or do you consider the Liberals to be to the left?. maybe more people would go ahead and vote for npd or green party if it wasnt for the bloc... and maybe we would have a higher number of seats with left winged butts in em that care for a bit more than getting one province out of a country... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 4:04pm |
| Coolness: 88590 | Well the NDP in the opposition would do dick all for Quebec, just like the others. And that is why the bloc exists. To make sure Quebec's needs are addressed at the federal level.
The NDP will do a whole lot of things for Canada as a whole if they were to get the opposition. The provincial government can take care of Québec specifically. Now I know a whole lot of it needs to be taken with a grain of salt, but did you watch the debate? Every single leader included Québec and I don't think it's necessarily to shut Duceppe up. Every major party has candidates in this province, I don't see how they would completely disregard Québec's interests should they be elected. About the left vote being divided, do you mean between the block, the npd and the green party? because from one election to the other, neither of those options are ever seriously considered by the media as parties fit to run the country.
Pretty much... We can agree to disagree, I think the Bloc shouldn't exist. As I stated before I think Duceppe would make an excellent leader for the province should he choose to. He might even have a chance to call a 3rd referendum. But as it stands we live in a country called Canada, not Québec and people need to fucking deal with it. Or do you consider the Liberals to be to the left?.
Seems to me you didn't read the entire thread databoy... I consider the Liberals to be conservative, just not as much as the party who bears that name. @ cutterher: WTF sortir le lac meetch des boules a mithes... On est en 2011 siboire! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 4:20pm |
 Coolness: 86455 | Originally Posted By STRIK_IX
But as it stands we live in a country called Canada, not Québec and people need to fucking deal with it. I'm really curious to ask.. how many people here want Quebec to separate? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 4:30pm |
| Coolness: 166525 | i'm indifferent to it, if there was a referendum i'd say vote yes, but only so that we could have the whole thing over with and speak and act on more important matters. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 4:44pm |
| Coolness: 88590 | I honestly dont care, but I would also vote yes. On a cultural and core values level I find that we do differ, the language is also key.
Economically, over about 5 years it might be rough, but I do think it would work out. New country means new laws and we might be able to bring in new companies in. But if it never happens, I wont feel miserable. I'm happy as it is. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed Apr 13, 2011 @ 4:53pm |
| Coolness: 106065 | Originally Posted By RECOIL
I'm really curious to ask.. how many people here want Quebec to separate? Well the last referendum pulled in 49.42% of the vote in favor of Quebec becoming a country. [ en.wikipedia.org ] |
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