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Technics Are Stopping Production On 1200'S And 1210'S
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Thu Dec 17, 2009 @ 1:06am
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Originally Posted By PURESEXMEGS

So are you saying the last 20 years of music being pumped out at parties had poor sound quality?
I think the soundsystem you use will define mostly how the sound comes out for the listener.
Also its not just because i can hold it, sure yuou can buy a usb key,external hardrive, thinigs again you rely on them working and electricity.
if your hardrive crashed or breaks you lose it all.

Again I come back to my point. Vinyl has more potential to last forever then a technology that will probably wont work in 5 years because something new will come out or some new type of file that not compatible.

computera have life spans of ar0und 5 years average..?
my decks is over 15 years old and some of my vinul is over 30 years old


just stfu

vinyl WEARS OUT you tard.
Make backups of your music on something called an external hard drive, or several.
If you're so worried about losing shit. Is electricity gonna disappear too someday Nostradamus?
If that's the case I guess you're fuckin stuck with round pieces of plastic either way aren't you? man I feel sorry for your turntables.

And computers have a lifespan of 5 years? Where are your computers made Mexico?
You have to be THE stupidest fucking person that types here. I can't wait to read more.
Fascinating.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Thu Dec 17, 2009 @ 4:47am
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lol if you have a genuine ibm it was probably made in mexico :] ...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Thu Dec 17, 2009 @ 4:49am
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dude, if you take care of a COMPAQ it will yield at least 10 years use. Let's get real here. it ain't the computers problem, it's the moron behind it.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Thu Dec 17, 2009 @ 4:56am
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i agree and even more , i still beleive in good condition electricals can last 50years to a hundred

but lately they weight less and burns easier.

" i see cheap hardware everywhere "
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ApR1zM replied on Thu Dec 17, 2009 @ 8:11am
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yeah this aint the 60s anymore things are builded to be replaced! nowadays everything is made in china
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» puresexmegs replied on Thu Dec 17, 2009 @ 8:52pm
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again retarded host likkes to skip numerous words and read what he WANTS to read

I quote myself: omputera have life spans of ar0und 5 years average..?

Do you know what the word average means you tool bag?
And I uote myself again: my decks is over 15 years old and some of my vinul is over 30 years old

Is your mp3 files and crap that old?
NO so go shut the fuck up and eat some more twinkies and masterbate to Alanis Morissette.

Oh and heres a 3rd quote of mine. All you quotes too but never read the actual context. ::if your hardrive crashed or breaks you lose it all.
Breaks ,crashed equipment? Do you know what that means?
You can back it up and the back up can break too
You relying on exactly what aprizm is saying. Things are not made for quality but quantity and for quick user consumption and destruction.

Please proceed to bash your head on a wall so you can jiggle your brain cells back into place so you can READ properly.
I'm feeling workout burns right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Thu Dec 17, 2009 @ 8:54pm
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Originally Posted By PURESEXMEGS

again retarded host likkes to skip numerous words and read what he WANTS to read

I quote myself: omputera have life spans of ar0und 5 years average..?

Do you know what the word average means you tool bag?
And I uote myself again: my decks is over 15 years old and some of my vinul is over 30 years old

Is your mp3 files and crap that old?
NO so go shut the fuck up and eat some more twinkies and masterbate to Alanis Morissette.

Oh and heres a 3rd quote of mine. All you quotes too but never read the actual context. ::if your hardrive crashed or breaks you lose it all.
Breaks ,crashed equipment? Do you know what that means?
You can back it up and the back up can break too
You relying on exactly what aprizm is saying. Things are not made for quality but quantity and for quick user consumption and destruction.

Please proceed to bash your head on a wall so you can jiggle your brain cells back into place so you can READ properly.


Why such a bitch.

Geeze.
I'm feeling fuck decency right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» puresexmegs replied on Thu Dec 17, 2009 @ 8:55pm
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Cuz hes always trying to cause shit without actually reading the context of the forums.
If he cant read and insults me Im going to point out the context hes clearly ignoring.
Period
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Thu Dec 17, 2009 @ 8:57pm
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Originally Posted By PURESEXMEGS

Cuz hes always trying to cause shit without actually reading the context of the forums.
If he cant read and insults me Im going to point out the context hes clearly ignoring.
Period


Not defending him here, he dosen't need me for that, but I just wondering. Do you actually know him? Have you ever met him?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Fri Dec 18, 2009 @ 12:20am
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Originally Posted By FISHEAD

I mean... you throw out numbers like 44.1khz. You do understand that's the sample-rate, and you do know what the sample-rate is, don't you? No one is talking about hearing frequencies that are 44khz... you're simply spouting off a bunch of bullshit that you don't fully understand and expecting other people to believe it... but you don't know what you're talking about.

A cd is essentially miniscule bursts of sound, like watching a movie or television (which simply flashes images to give the illusion of motion)... digital audio doesn't give you a constant waveform, it gives you a waveform that is constantly broken... whereas vinyl does provide you with an unbroken waveform, as well, vinyl can is also capable of producing subharmonic frequencies (ie: seriously deep bass that dips below the threshold that cds reproduce)....

anyhow... go back to your misinformation, and your arm-shrinkery... I realize you probably won't understand any of this, but hopefully anyone reading this thread who thinks you're an authority on these matters will be steered away from your audio shenanigans.


Shut the fuck up.

You don't join an argument half way through without reading half the bullshit Cutterfag has been writing and try to slam me.

Cutterfag has repeatedly stated that he has supersonic hearing and it's all because he's superman and has an amazing speaker setup with grade A amps.

Allow me to repeat, SHUT THE FUCK UP you loser, no one was talking to you.

I am fully aware of sample rates. The shittiest quality MP3 can use 44.1Khz as its sample rate and is completely fucking irrelevant and was never mentioned by anyone but you; but thanks for the explanation that no one asked for. Loser.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Fri Dec 18, 2009 @ 1:02am
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Originally Posted By PURESEXMEGS

again retarded host likkes to skip numerous words and read what he WANTS to read

I quote myself: omputera have life spans of ar0und 5 years average..?

Do you know what the word average means you tool bag?
And I uote myself again: my decks is over 15 years old and some of my vinul is over 30 years old

Is your mp3 files and crap that old?
NO so go shut the fuck up and eat some more twinkies and masterbate to Alanis Morissette.

Oh and heres a 3rd quote of mine. All you quotes too but never read the actual context. ::if your hardrive crashed or breaks you lose it all.
Breaks ,crashed equipment? Do you know what that means?
You can back it up and the back up can break too
You relying on exactly what aprizm is saying. Things are not made for quality but quantity and for quick user consumption and destruction.

Please proceed to bash your head on a wall so you can jiggle your brain cells back into place so you can READ properly.


Dude, again you've managed to say ABOSOLUTELY NOTHING in about 30 words. I know the context, I'm reading, something you don't do very well. You ever heard of spell check hun or is proper spelling and grammar above you? My decks IS? Are. VINYL. You even spelled masturbation wrong. Go back to school, tool. My sperm has more intelligent shit to say than you do.
Capiche?

Now on AVERAGE a computers life span is 10 to 15 years, MORON. Unless you don't clean it or take care of it, like I'm SURE you don't.
And yeah, crashed equipment, is easily backed up, buy several HD's or sticks, they aren't that expensive. Your vinyl will sound like shit after 15 plays, you're a fucking blond bimbo twit who doesn't have one brain cell to rub against her moronic ontarian skull.

Your decks are old so that means they're more reliable than mp3 files and technology? MP3's will never lose quality or not get repressed, where as VINYL can get stolen, lost, cracked, melted, kicked, filled with sand, or frisbeed across a fuckin room into your dumb blond head. External HD's wont break unless you're extremely abusive, and even then, replacing your MP3 collection is the easiest fucking thing to do.
1. OPEN BEATPORT 2. GET YOUR CREDIT CARD OUT 3. RE BUY EVERYTHING YOU LOST SINCE IT WAS PROBABLY RELEASED ON OUR "LOW QUALITY" ALTERNATIVE

Now go lose your vinyl and try to find it all again in 24 hours. I'm challenging you bozo.
And while you're at it, find a way to make yourself look 3 times as stupid next time.
Another challenge I'm sure you'll live right up to.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fishead replied on Fri Dec 18, 2009 @ 1:43am
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Originally Posted By NEOFORM

Shut the fuck up.

You don't join an argument half way through without reading half the bullshit Cutterfag has been writing and try to slam me.


actually - if you go back and read, you'll see that I've been following this thread for quite a while, just haven't posted all that much.

Originally Posted By NEOFORM

Allow me to repeat, SHUT THE FUCK UP you loser, no one was talking to you.

I am fully aware of sample rates. The shittiest quality MP3 can use 44.1Khz as its sample rate and is completely fucking irrelevant and was never mentioned by anyone but you; but thanks for the explanation that no one asked for. Loser.


It should have been mentioned by someone other than me, as vinyl uses a physical means to produce a constant soundwave, whereas digital media use infinitely small bursts of sound to produce a facsimile of constant sound. It's one of the intrinsic differences between analog and digital means of sound reproduction, which seems to make it completely relevant to the discussion - just not conveniently suited to your arguments.

What part of my previous post hit such a nerve? The suggestion that you don't really know what you're talking about, or the fact that I called shenanigans on your arguments... or is it because I spotted your mention of people convincing themselves that they can hear 44khz frequencies before you had a chance to edit it and change it to 20khz... which I presume you did while I was writing up my comments.

That was the bit that made me question whether you have any idea what you're talking about.
I'm feeling new records right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Fri Dec 18, 2009 @ 4:37am
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Btw twinkies are fucking delicious, why don't you go bake up another metherd's pie, skinny twit.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mutante replied on Fri Dec 18, 2009 @ 6:14am
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je t'écris dans la nuit pour dire...... NIMPORTE QUOI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fishead dont know what hes talking about... hes a rookie dudes, dont trust a rookie....
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Dec 20, 2009 @ 5:11pm
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Originally Posted By FISHEAD

actually - if you go back and read, you'll see that I've been following this thread for quite a while, just haven't posted all that much.

It should have been mentioned by someone other than me, as vinyl uses a physical means to produce a constant soundwave, whereas digital media use infinitely small bursts of sound to produce a facsimile of constant sound. It's one of the intrinsic differences between analog and digital means of sound reproduction, which seems to make it completely relevant to the discussion - just not conveniently suited to your arguments.

What part of my previous post hit such a nerve? The suggestion that you don't really know what you're talking about, or the fact that I called shenanigans on your arguments... or is it because I spotted your mention of people convincing themselves that they can hear 44khz frequencies before you had a chance to edit it and change it to 20khz... which I presume you did while I was writing up my comments.

That was the bit that made me question whether you have any idea what you're talking about.


Why are you still talking to me?

I never claimed anything about fucking sample rates, ever. I also never edited my comments from 44khz to 22khz.

Secondly, vinyl DOES NOT HAVE BETTER SOUND THAN DIGITAL for the simple fact that all music produced today is done 100% in a digitial environment. Hell, most producers don't do anything analog, not even recording of samples. If the entire process is done digitally, then translated to analog on vinyl, then you are not ending up with the same sound, plain and simple.

Stop talking to me since you don't know the first thing about what you're talking about.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre replied on Mon Dec 21, 2009 @ 8:07am
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So they stop production? :D
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Mon Dec 21, 2009 @ 8:09am
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre replied on Mon Dec 21, 2009 @ 8:15am
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:D
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fishead replied on Mon Dec 21, 2009 @ 8:20am
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Originally Posted By NEOFORM

Secondly, vinyl DOES NOT HAVE BETTER SOUND THAN DIGITAL for the simple fact that all music produced today is done 100% in a digitial environment. Hell, most producers don't do anything analog, not even recording of samples. If the entire process is done digitally, then translated to analog on vinyl, then you are not ending up with the same sound, plain and simple.


All music produced today is certainly not done in a 100% digital environment. There are a lot of analog loyalists out there... it might not be all that common, but it is certainly possible to record gear to reel-to-reel tape. After all electronic music has existed since before digital recording.

Steve Albini is a great example...
[ www.soundonsound.com ]

read about his analog studio, his aversion to digital and his thoughts on media (which are relatively close to my own)... do you think he's full of shit, too?

George Martin (he produced the Beatles - you might have heard of them) gives an overview of the inherent difference between analog and digital recording, and again it's akin to what I posted.
"Ordinary [analog] recording stores the electrical impulses (which have been converted from the pure aural vibration by the microphone) on magnetic tape as magnetic variations in the coating. Digital recording, on the other hand, analyzes the frequencies constantly and stores the information as binary code on tape. If you can imagine `stop-framing' a slice of sound, analyzing it in terms of frequencies, converting the information into numbers to store on tape and doing that 50,000 times a second, that is what a digital recorder does. And on playback, a reverse process takes place."

How about the opinion of Neil Young?:
"along with the hiss went depth of sound and the myriad possibilities of the high end where everything is like the cosmos, exploding stars, echo. From the 80s on, no records contain that kind of quality any more and those are the very things that stimulate the human body into reacting, feeling, and enjoying music."

in short, don't assume I haven't done my homework...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Mon Dec 21, 2009 @ 2:46pm
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in sum

neoform = constipated mind
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