Who'S Religious In Here ?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 1:32am |
 Coolness: 339745 | damnit, now i'm forbidden from being gay!! NOOoOOoOo!! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 1:33am |
 Coolness: 685670 | Originally posted by CINDERELLA SOUL...
srewhead: if the bible never existed, then none of this wou;ld have happened. That is blame mentality. If I had never been born then I never would have got into that car accident. So it's my mother and father's fault. That is poor reasoning. See, what your doing here, is exactly what anyone can do with the bible: take what is said and twist it around to suit your needs. What I said is, there are crazy people out there who are unstable and kill people. What's their motivation? You gonna tell me the crusades had no religious involvement? The burning times, right, the church and the bible had nothing to do with that. Bin Laden TOTALLY didn't make people fly airplanes into buildings because he wanted to make a point to the "bastard non-muslim white-man". The bible has been misused and that is human incompetence or ignorance that is responsible.
Who wrote the bible? I don't recall any of the bible having been dictated by god himself, they're STORIES, with morals and values that were good around 500 BC - 1500 AD, but we're not the fucking dark ages anymore. The Cat in the Hat is a great story. It's got good morals, too! So does Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Does that mean that these books are the ultimate authority on how life should be lived? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 1:39am |
| Coolness: 339745 | uhh fred, i think the answer to your question is an obvious YES. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 1:45am |
| Coolness: 685670 | Wow. Thank you neovagina for pointing out the obvious.
Like seriously, who the fuck lets a cat with a hat on into their house? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 2:10am |
| Coolness: 339745 | i for one do not trust any felines in my house if they have any outrageous proposals for me.. nothing but throuble. as well, from my open interperetation of the book, black people should be used as slaves, and gays are to be hung. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 12:10pm |
 Coolness: 56280 | screwhead: If the bible never existed, none of this would have happened? Maybe, but who knows. It's in the past.
I don't see how I am using the bible and twisting what is said to use it against you. Please, show me. I was commenting about your comment which sounded to ME like you were saying that everything would be okay, if the bible wouldn't have existed. I mean I htink you know that is not the case. Who knows how life would have been without the bible? Who knows! One can only hypothesize.. I agree with you that there are unstable people out there who kill people. Yes, in the name of religion, they do. I'd much prefer to be hung. But that's just my opinion. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» bob_ replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 1:38pm |
 Coolness: 102285 | Ian. Je tiens a souligner que mon post s'attaquait uniquement au Christianisme.
"or maybe some eastern philo like buddhism or toaism" Pour être parfaitement honnête, j'ai toujours cru que le Boudhisme était probablement la seule religion auquel je pourrais adhérer un jour. Je trouve cette religion beaucoup moins naive que la plupart des autres religion. J'ai lu il y a quelques années des livres écrit par le Dalai-Lama (ex: "L'art du bonheur" ) et j'ai compris que ce qui est génial avec le Boudhisme, c'est que justement comme tu le dit, Boudha peut etre n'importe quoi. Je considère le Boudhisme comme étant plus une manière de vivre plutot qu'une manière de pensé (j'espère que je m'exprime bien.) Le problème avec le Christianisme, c'est que les bases de cette religion la sont complètement dépassés. Quand je vois le Pape dire "fuck les condoms, fuck l'avortement, fuck le mariage gay bla bla bla" ca me rends malade. Comment une religion peut-elle dire a ses "disciples" (i hate that word) de ne pas se protéger quand elle sait pertinement que le Sida est en train de tuer des millions de gens??? Ce qui est bien avec le Boudhisme, c'est que tu peux choisir ta relation avec la religion, chose que tu ne peux pas faire avec le ptit Jésus. (peut-être que je me trompe...) Si la fille de ma classe aurait été Boudhiste, je suis certain qu'elle ne m'aurait pas donné une réponse aussi ... conne... (désolé d'être aussi dur...) j'aimerais peut-etre finir ma vie en moine. Ca pourrait être une belle retraite hehe :) Pour terminer, le plus gros problème des religions est, a mon avis, l'extrèmisme. Ceci est le chemin a choisir si tu décides de prendre la route de l'ignorance... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 1:52pm |
 Coolness: 145280 | i really do agree with you on the whole condom thing, how can the pope be anti condom when people are dropping dead every day by the hundreds of AIDS in sub saharan africa
as for christianity i think that the message of peace which it originaly began with has somehow been lost along the way, maybe it's up to christians to find it again, i don't know i'm not the right person to make that call, really |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Purple_Lee replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 2:00pm |
 Coolness: 238700 | i have a belive, but it is more of a pysofical (i suck @ spelling) outlook. If you want to know it then just asl away
Lee |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» bob_ replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 2:15pm |
| Coolness: 102285 | Originally posted by BASDINI...
as for christianity i think that the message of peace which it originaly began with has somehow been lost along the way, maybe it's up to christians to find it again, la dessus, je suis d'accord avec toi mais si tu veux mon avis, la raison pour laquelle le message de paix est quasi disparu, c'est que malheureusement, et ca le monde n,y pense pas toujours, le Vatican est devenu au cours de l'Histoire une entreprise. La preuve? Quelle autre religion peut se vanter d'avoir son propre "pays"? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 3:46pm |
| Coolness: 685670 | Originally posted by CINDERELLA SOUL...
screwhead: If the bible never existed, none of this would have happened? Maybe, but who knows. It's in the past. If the bible had never existed, if RELIGION had never existed, AS A WHOLE (christian, judaism, muslim, etc) then there are MILLIONS upon MILLIONS of deaths that would have never happened. Christians and Muslims = crusades. Christians and witches = burning times. Muslims and EVERYONE non-muslim = 9/11. Christians trying to assimilate Native Americans = look at where they are now in their own country (hell, they did the best job ever here! I'll bet if you go to India, Africa, Japan, Thailand, China, etc, the population of the country that is native to that country will be a lot larger than the population that is not) I don't see how I am using the bible and twisting what is said to use it against you. Please, show me.
I was commenting about your comment which sounded to ME like you were saying that everything would be okay, if the bible wouldn't have existed. I mean I htink you know that is not the case. Who knows how life would have been without the bible? Who knows! One can only hypothesize.. I said you were twisting MY words to say what you wanted to say. Learn to read. One can only hypothesize? If you take the colors red and blue out of the color purple, you have NOTHING left. If you take the cause of hate and seperation of mankind and eliminate it, you would be left with peace and love. I'd much prefer to be hung. But that's just my opinion.
Being hung isn't all it's cracked up to be. Bastard just gets in the way and destroys your pants. ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blondie replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 4:04pm |
 Coolness: 35345 | I totally agree with you Screwhead. The bible is just a fairy tale to give adults reason to live their lives "morally." If the Bible never existed, we would be alot happier.For example, Religion is based on hypocrisy and take what you were saying about the crusades and the burnings, is a perfectr example of it.They are killing in Gods name yet the Bible clearly says thou shalt not kill. I think that there is more to life than religion and we should respect each other as people not by what path we choose to follow. Live into NOW! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 5:11pm |
| Coolness: 145280 | you have to make the distiction somehow between spirituality and religion
another question worth asking is science just the new religion of the last 400 years |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 8:05pm |
| Coolness: 178725 | Ce qui est bien avec le Boudhisme, c'est que tu peux choisir ta relation avec la religion, chose que tu ne peux pas faire avec le ptit Jésus. (peut-être que je me trompe...)
I think you can do it, look at the differents sects based on the Bible... Catholics, Protestants, etc... Each of them have a different way of reading the Bible... And, talking to other peeps, I think everyone has their own definition of the Bible... Basically, all religions are good, because it's all about God anyway. And God is everywhere. Well for those who believe in God. ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 8:26pm |
| Coolness: 685670 | Originally posted by BASDINI...
another question worth asking is science just the new religion of the last 400 years No, science and religion are two completely diffrent things. Religion is just to give man "hope" and "morals" and to be a guide to live. Science explains things through pure hard facts that can pe reproduced and explained. Religion relies on vague explanations, superstition and the false promise of something better than you have now (as if the life we live now, no matter how good, should be a chore and not enjoyable) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 9:09pm |
| Coolness: 339745 | people who say science is just another religion deserve to die.
It's like saying Logic is a religion, and chosing to believe in it is your own faith/belief.. Let's look at this Logically: If i broke my arm would i: A) Hope/Pray for it to get better. B) Use Medical Science and get it set/casted. I think everyone knows the answer, but of course there will be jackasses who say "I'd choose C) All of the above.", to which i'd slap them, then add a 3rd option being "C) Bathe in an Onion broth for 5 days in hopes that the smell will scare the broken part of the bone away.". |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Purple_Lee replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 9:28pm |
| Coolness: 238700 | okay basic idea here folks. Take a look @ all of the regloius writing. In the end the meaning is same, but how it is told is where it is different. Then you throw in the fear of sexuaility got to love the eastern ones for there open mindedness dealing with sex.
Lee |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nie replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 10:18pm |
| Coolness: 50730 | Most people want to believe there's a stronger force (a God) not to feel alone. Others just because they can not believe that we can be alone...that there's nothing else.
What ever you believe in, I think religion should NEVER impose anything on you. I saw an episode of 'tout le monde en parle' where they were asking (I forgot who) about capital death. His answer was: 'Je crois que la peine capitale devrait rester abolie car après la mort, personne ne sait ce qu'il y a. Et si c'était mieux?' PERSONNE ne sait ce qu'il y a après la mort. Nous n'avons que des suppositions. Peut importe ta religion, elle ne devrait jamais t'empêcher d'être heureux (homosexualité par exemple). Après la mort on verra...si on voit encore! :oP Pour l'instant c'est cheesy mais: Don't worry be happy! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nie replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 10:19pm |
| Coolness: 50730 | Une chose est indéniable, la religion a et fait toujours couler beaucoup d'encre! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Purple_Lee replied on Sun Feb 6, 2005 @ 10:28pm |
| Coolness: 238700 | Originally posted by C@¤||£R@...
Most people want to believe there's a stronger force (a God) not to feel alone. Others just because they can not believe that we can be alone...that there's nothing else. What ever you believe in, I think religion should NEVER impose anything on you. I saw an episode of 'tout le monde en parle' where they were asking (I forgot who) about capital death. His answer was: 'Je crois que la peine capitale devrait rester abolie car après la mort, personne ne sait ce qu'il y a. Et si c'était mieux?' PERSONNE ne sait ce qu'il y a après la mort. Nous n'avons que des suppositions. Peut importe ta religion, elle ne devrait jamais t'empêcher d'être heureux (homosexualité par exemple). Après la mort on verra...si on voit encore! :oP Pour l'instant c'est cheesy mais: Don't worry be happy! I like how you think Lee |
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