Who'S Religious In Here ?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 11:43am |
 Coolness: 56300 | srewhead: if the bible never existed, then none of this wou;ld have happened.
That is blame mentality. If I had never been born then I never would have got into that car accident. So it's my mother and father's fault. That is poor reasoning. The bible has been misused and that is human incompetence or ignorance that is responsible. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 11:45am |
 Coolness: 145300 | 'the kingdom of god is whithin you and all around, split a peice of wood and you will find me, flip a stone and i am there' |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» bob_ replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 12:29pm |
 Coolness: 102305 | Originally posted by BASDINI...
'the kingdom of god is whithin you and all around, split a peice of wood and you will find me, flip a stone and i am there' nice quote from ''l'évangile de Thomas''(the only one that have kinda sense for me)but the church consider this one as an heresy (wtf???) for the rest, i'm sorry but it's gonna be in french Premièrement, je tiens a dire que je respecte les gens qui ont des croyances même si je comprends pas... Ce qui me désespère des croyants, c'est que j'ai la forte impression que ces gens la crois en quelque chose juste pour se donner l'impression qui ne sont pas seul. c'est comme si ils pensent que Dieu seras toujours la, la main sur leur épaules en disant ''tant que je suis la, ca va bien aller''. Merde!!! Comment peut-on croire quelque chose d'aussi absurde??? Exemple: Quand j'étudiais en multimédia il y a 5 ans, je dinais avec une fille de ma classe (qui est EXTRÈMEMENT croyante)et je lui racontais toute la merde qui se passait dans ma famille et que ca m'affectais énormément et bla bla bla... La Réponse qu'elle m'a donnée? ''Si tu laisses Dieu rentrer dans ta vie, les choses vont tellement aller mieux pour toi'' Disons que cette réponse m'a renversé et je lui ai dit que je trouvais cette réponse très naive. Pour mes croyances, j'essaie d'avoir une approche beaucoup plus humaniste dans le sens que je crois plutot a moi même, a mon potentiel plutot que de croire a quelque chose qui n'a absolument rien de concret. Pour ce qui est du Christianisme plus précisément, JAMAIS AU GRAND JAMAIS je pourrais adhérer a une religion qui est responsable d'autant de massacre dans son Histoire. (qui en passant, a fait plus de victimes que le génocide Nazi...) Au nom de Dieu, les Espagnols ont quasiment exterminés les Mayas (et les Incas aussi je crois.) Les francais et les anglais ont massacrés les Amérindiens a l'époque de la Nouvelle-France. Aussi les fameuses croisades Anglaises pour combattre les Musulmans. Le Vatican qui savait ce qui se passait avec les Nazis sans même lever le petit doigt et j'en passe, j'en aurais trop a nommé... Dieu est bon? Dieu est amour? Aimes ton prochain? Seulement si tu crois la même chose que lui... hahaha, laissez moi rire... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Violence_Inc replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 2:11pm |
 Coolness: 174190 | Originally posted by JIGGAWAT...
first and foremost, before reaching to god for salvation, shouldnt one believe in ones self beyond all things? you cant sincerely and whole heartedly believe in somethign else without possessing faith in your own being. The idea of loving one's self is a representation of Godliness, for if God is love, and we love ourselves, then we are with God's self. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 3:22pm |
 Coolness: 82745 | stop trying to make me look bad. or ill be mean.
;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 3:29pm |
| Coolness: 56300 | I rarely if ever try to make people look bad-- inless it's on purpose.
But if anyone feels that I make them look bad. Let me know so that we can talk about it. Jiggawat--- it's not very nice to threaten people. But i understand you're upset |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PaT_ replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 3:38pm |
 Coolness: 116395 | Originally posted by KATIE...
I think if anything religion helps the weak, and we are all weak in a sence. For example, Catholics believe that when you die you go to heaven, those mourning the loss of their loved one can take comfort in their belief that that person is in a safe and happy place. Some of us choose to dissasociate ourselves in sad times therefore we do not have to deal with the issue first hand. Whereas those dealing with it may turn to their faith for comfort and help and I dont see that as a scapegoat. you should read marx(thesis on feuverbach) marx said that religion was based on wishfull thinking and that the ruling class used religion to opress the working class (control/distract them from the 'real problems') and believed that it blinded the lower class and gave them a sense of false hope. anyway, |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» michaeldino replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 3:40pm |
 Coolness: 69075 | i am religious... that is the end of my part in this topic |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 3:58pm |
| Coolness: 82745 | Originally posted by CINDERELLA SOUL...
I rarely if ever try to make people look bad-- inless it's on purpose. But if anyone feels that I make them look bad. Let me know so that we can talk about it. Jiggawat--- it's not very nice to threaten people. But i understand you're upset im not threatenign him lol. he's my boyfriend. im joking around |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 4:13pm |
 Coolness: 148285 | Often, after a drug debauchery saturday's party, when I'm totaly into the deebozz of my brain, waste as fuck physically, I do go at church when there's one on my way. Just to sit down, to relax and take a time into the wooden silence of the sanctum with myself.
--------> But i'm not religious. Never was, born in a family-fuck-religion-style. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 4:13pm |
 Coolness: 152610 | @ Dom. Amen.
"Pour mes croyances, j'essaie d'avoir une approche beaucoup plus humaniste dans le sens que je crois plutot a moi même, a mon potentiel plutot que de croire a quelque chose qui n'a absolument rien de concret. " La nature humaine est en soi parfaite je crois. C'est ça que le monde religieux veulent que tu aye chercher en croyant à Dieu.. qui dans le fond est notre nature humaine... c'Est pas nous qui smme créé à l'image de Dieu...c'est Dieu qui est créé à notre image... L'image que l'on a du Bien. je crois qu'on a tous la même switch BON/MAUVAIS... c'est juste qu'y'en a qui s'en serve pas pentoute, pis qui pense l'avoir trouvé. Genre bouceaup de monde... quasiment la même proportion de monde qui ont pas encor trouvé le point G de leur blonde pis qui gosse dans le beurre avec leur switch. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 4:20pm |
| Coolness: 56300 | lol he's your boyfriend- k. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» caro replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 4:44pm |
 Coolness: 152040 | Originally posted by CINDERELLA SOUL...
Jiggawat--- it's not very nice to threaten people. But i understand you're upset not to be rude. but HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHHAHAAAAAAAA soemtimes theres context to what people write. most of the people on this site have history together. but none the less HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 5:54pm |
| Coolness: 56300 | Dieu est comme un mirroir. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» o_skoo_bigwheela replied on Fri Feb 4, 2005 @ 6:37pm |
 Coolness: 66155 | I don't believe in organized religion, i kinda don't really know WHAT I believe... I think I believe in something...what....hmm...i dunno.
Meh I am useless to this thread lol |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» hayley replied on Sat Feb 5, 2005 @ 1:19pm |
| Coolness: 82745 | Originally posted by MISS CARO...
Originally posted by cinderella soul...
Jiggawat--- it's not very nice to threaten people. But i understand you're upset not to be rude. but HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAHHAHAAAAAAAA soemtimes theres context to what people write. most of the people on this site have history together. but none the less HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHAHAHHA lol AWSOME CARO LOL HAHAHAHAHAHHA |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Sat Feb 5, 2005 @ 1:21pm |
 Coolness: 339765 | boing! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat Feb 5, 2005 @ 8:39pm |
| Coolness: 145300 | Originally posted by DOM PERIGNON...
Originally posted by basdini...
'the kingdom of god is whithin you and all around, split a peice of wood and you will find me, flip a stone and i am there' nice quote from ''l'évangile de Thomas''(the only one that have kinda sense for me)but the church consider this one as an heresy (wtf???) for the rest, i'm sorry but it's gonna be in french Premièrement, je tiens a dire que je respecte les gens qui ont des croyances même si je comprends pas... Ce qui me désespère des croyants, c'est que j'ai la forte impression que ces gens la crois en quelque chose juste pour se donner l'impression qui ne sont pas seul. c'est comme si ils pensent que Dieu seras toujours la, la main sur leur épaules en disant ''tant que je suis la, ca va bien aller''. Merde!!! Comment peut-on croire quelque chose d'aussi absurde??? Exemple: Quand j'étudiais en multimédia il y a 5 ans, je dinais avec une fille de ma classe (qui est EXTRÈMEMENT croyante)et je lui racontais toute la merde qui se passait dans ma famille et que ca m'affectais énormément et bla bla bla... La Réponse qu'elle m'a donnée? ''Si tu laisses Dieu rentrer dans ta vie, les choses vont tellement aller mieux pour toi'' Disons que cette réponse m'a renversé et je lui ai dit que je trouvais cette réponse très naive. Pour mes croyances, j'essaie d'avoir une approche beaucoup plus humaniste dans le sens que je crois plutot a moi même, a mon potentiel plutot que de croire a quelque chose qui n'a absolument rien de concret. Pour ce qui est du Christianisme plus précisément, JAMAIS AU GRAND JAMAIS je pourrais adhérer a une religion qui est responsable d'autant de massacre dans son Histoire. (qui en passant, a fait plus de victimes que le génocide Nazi...) Au nom de Dieu, les Espagnols ont quasiment exterminés les Mayas (et les Incas aussi je crois.) Les francais et les anglais ont massacrés les Amérindiens a l'époque de la Nouvelle-France. Aussi les fameuses croisades Anglaises pour combattre les Musulmans. Le Vatican qui savait ce qui se passait avec les Nazis sans même lever le petit doigt et j'en passe, j'en aurais trop a nommé... Dieu est bon? Dieu est amour? Aimes ton prochain? Seulement si tu crois la même chose que lui... hahaha, laissez moi rire... a number of very interesting things came out in this post "Premièrement, je tiens a dire que je respecte les gens qui ont des croyances même si je comprends pas..." thats one of the first steps to peace, both within and without. "Exemple: Quand j'étudiais en multimédia il y a 5 ans, je dinais avec une fille de ma classe (qui est EXTRÈMEMENT croyante)et je lui racontais toute la merde qui se passait dans ma famille et que ca m'affectais énormément et bla bla bla..." this hear is very interesting you are directly dealing with the problem of good and evil in the universe (if is god all powerful why does he allow for evil) "Pour mes croyances, j'essaie d'avoir une approche beaucoup plus humaniste dans le sens que je crois plutot a moi même, a mon potentiel plutot que de croire a quelque chose qui n'a absolument rien de concret." this is also very interesting and always refershing to hear from people. The biggest mistake i think people make about god is to make him a thing or a person, you have to realize if god exists he not gonna be an entity anything like ourselves, the whole "made in god's image", that's just balloney, it doesn't make any sense. You can't really talk about god having a 'self' like we do. He permeates all of existence and he forms the basis of reality itself. In no sense is god either a subject or an object, rather he is the dramatic union of all existent subjects and objects. In this sense god can be seen everywhere, your god , i'm god, this keyboard is god. The universe is divine. None but you can decide what your relationship to this is gonna be. you should check out things like existentialism (ie martin beuber) or spinozistic pantheism or maybe some eastern philo like buddhism or toaism other mystic stuff is worth checking out as well before you make a call on the sphere of human activity called 'religion' it's all about peace, peace with yourself and peace with everything and everyone around you. not trying to be preachy, just my point of view |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Sat Feb 5, 2005 @ 8:43pm |
 Coolness: 150560 | YOUR MOTHER DOESN'T LOVE AND NEITHER DOES YOUR RELIGION!!- T.J
Religion is a crutch for the weak, those who are trying to get off drugs. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» little_sarah replied on Sat Feb 5, 2005 @ 10:42pm |
 Coolness: 121540 | Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...
People who say gays aren't allowed cause the bible says so are stupid. I dare you to find the line that says i can't be gay. ian: [ davidmacd.com ] i was curious about it myself so i looked it up, apparently the bible doens't say anythign about gay marriage or relationships, but is against ass focking i think |
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