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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 11:19am
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not really, it was there in dino times 2 :D
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 11:21am
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I really like the old testament. Plagues, burning your children alive to prove your love for god, mass genocide, torture.. God is a really swell guy!
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 11:25am
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 3:41pm
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God also took away our immortality because we didn't listen to what he said.

Fucker.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 3:42pm
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imagine te boredom of living forever? thats hell, if you ask me.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 3:49pm
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why anybody of you cant say anything against neoform's argument except insults?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 4:00pm
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Because mine was a show stopper.
Hahahaha.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 4:08pm
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pff I suppose I could argue some of his points...

Anarchists take an every man for himself attitude.


Actually I would say it is the complete opposite. Anarchy, in the traditional sense, not the nihilistic punk rock sense, is the belief in community run programs and organizations. It is like socialism but without the big heavy hand of the government deciding what you can and cannot do, and where money should be spent. It is basically pushing the libertarian/conservative ideal of the small government to its furthest level. It does not imply a complete lack of authority but rather a removal of central seats of power which can be abused.

When you went on to describe the caste system and all that, you were talking about anarcho-capitalism, which implies that you are still functioning in a capitalist system where money determines whether someone is rich or poor.

I don't believe that anarchy or pure small-government systems could work well, because organizations such as the military benefit from being unified and run by one powerful and well-funded source, as does road building (it would be hard to create the trans-canada highway in an anarchistic state). I would also argue that health care is best run by the state, although having the option of private health care is not a bad thing. The rich can already afford it, they go to the USA for private treatment when waiting times here are too long.

What I don't like are government run monopolies, excessive grants and tax-breaks for companies, stupid laws (like making drug use or prostitution illegal, or many copyright laws), and taxes that are higher than they need to be. Why should my taxes be paying for police who enforce laws I don't believe in?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 4:23pm
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yep, but humans will never be able to live in an anarchic state, because the true will of the man is to get power over the others, thats how we are, anybody refuting this can suck my salty sack, just look at history, dont tell me we changed, there are still wars around.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 4:24pm
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Originally Posted By SCOTTYP

pff I suppose I could argue some of his points...

Anarchists take an every man for himself attitude.


Actually I would say it is the complete opposite. Anarchy, in the traditional sense, not the nihilistic punk rock sense, is the belief in community run programs and organizations. It is like socialism but without the big heavy hand of the government deciding what you can and cannot do, and where money should be spent. It is basically pushing the libertarian/conservative ideal of the small government to its furthest level. It does not imply a complete lack of authority but rather a removal of central seats of power which can be abused.

When you went on to describe the caste system and all that, you were talking about anarcho-capitalism, which implies that you are still functioning in a capitalist system where money determines whether someone is rich or poor.

I don't believe that anarchy or pure small-government systems could work well, because organizations such as the military benefit from being unified and run by one powerful and well-funded source, as does road building (it would be hard to create the trans-canada highway in an anarchistic state). I would also argue that health care is best run by the state, although having the option of private health care is not a bad thing. The rich can already afford it, they go to the USA for private treatment when waiting times here are too long.

What I don't like are government run monopolies, excessive grants and tax-breaks for companies, stupid laws (like making drug use or prostitution illegal, or many copyright laws), and taxes that are higher than they need to be. Why should my taxes be paying for police who enforce laws I don't believe in?


Woah, someone who really understands anarchy :)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 4:27pm
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yep, but humans will never be able to live in an anarchic state, because the true will of the man is to get power over the others, thats how we are, anybody refuting this can suck my salty sack, just look at history, dont tell me we changed, there are still wars around.


Yeah well that is also the problem with any form of government. Socialism, or even communism would work out great if none of the selfish idiots were around.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 4:28pm
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yep, but its impossible to be lived by humans-alike.

our natural behaviours will allways overwhelm our will to act this way.

maybe some kind of extraterrestrials are living this way, but its impossible for us.

unfortunately.

in the past, i fought to instore this mentality on people just to realise we are doomed by ourselves, and its a waste of time, you cant change 6 000 000 000 people.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 4:30pm
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Well we can change some of our 'natural behaviors' though. That is what makes us civilized. Otherwise we would still be walking around naked hitting each other with tree branches.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 4:33pm
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Originally Posted By SCOTTYP

Otherwise we would still be walking around naked hitting each other with tree branches.


Hey dont diss my morning ritual mmkay!

:P
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 4:50pm
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Mise À Jour » neoform a écrit sur Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 4:55pm
Also scott:

When you went on to describe the caste system and all that, you were talking about anarcho-capitalism, which implies that you are still functioning in a capitalist system where money determines whether someone is rich or poor.


I'm not sure what you're implying. We live in a world where Capitalism dominates. Even in the communist countries like China, they still use capitalism.

What you're basically implying is we switch away from capitalism because anarchy wont work with it? Good luck changing every possible aspect about everyone's life just because you have a theory that your ideals would work better.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 4:59pm
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this brainless bickering is moranic
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 5:04pm
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Meh still better than a troll of the year pageant isnt it?

And for the record that people killed in the bible graph is pure gold.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 5:06pm
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What you're basically implying is we switch away from capitalism because anarchy wont work with it? Good luck changing every possible aspect about everyone's life just because you have a theory that your ideals would work better.


Where did I write that?

Did you read anything that I wrote?

When did I say that *I* was intent on challenging everyone's concept of capitalism so *I* could instill anarchy?

You are clearly talking about a different post from a different person that I am not aware of...

At the end of the post I actually wrote that *I* didn't believe anarchy could work in our society.

Please read what I write in totality before responding.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 5:32pm
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Originally Posted By THE.NEOFORM

Taxes do not make the rich poor, nor do they make the poor poor. If you tax the poor at a higher rate than the rich, all you're doing is stomping on the someone when they're down.

Taking the retarded attitude that poor people should just work harder, completely ignores the fact that most rich people barely do any work at all. Asshats like Donald Trump provide the world with nothing. If that tool died tomorrow, nothing at ALL would change. In fact, if EVERY single person in the top 1% died tomorrow, the world would end up a much better place since those people never actually produced anything nor did they change anything. All the true innovators are not rich, they get used by those with money and power.

You claim that i should shut up because I'm richer than 70% of the world, but it's you who should. I make a lot more than your average 25 year old, yet I'm more than happy to pay 45% of my check to taxes because of the services i get back, and because it helps those who don't make as much as I do. That's me being appreciative of my situation in life; you on the other hand are greedy and want to reap all the benefits and give nothing back.



Totaly agreed
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform a répondu le Wed 6 Aug, 2008 @ 5:47pm
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Originally Posted By SCOTTYP

Where did I write that?

Did you read anything that I wrote?

When did I say that *I* was intent on challenging everyone's concept of capitalism so *I* could instill anarchy?

You are clearly talking about a different post from a different person that I am not aware of...

At the end of the post I actually wrote that *I* didn't believe anarchy could work in our society.

Please read what I write in totality before responding.


Originally Posted By SCOTTYP

When you went on to describe the caste system and all that, you were talking about anarcho-capitalism, which implies that you are still functioning in a capitalist system where money determines whether someone is rich or poor.
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