The Great K Debate...
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» regimental911 replied on Thu Nov 24, 2005 @ 6:45pm |
 Coolness: 134350 | k is fucked up.....i've never felt more out of control. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» the_rider replied on Thu Nov 24, 2005 @ 7:43pm |
 Coolness: 42325 | Originally posted by REGIMENTAL911...
k is fucked up.....i've never felt more out of control. PCP is a lot worse... :( |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» regimental911 replied on Thu Nov 24, 2005 @ 10:13pm |
| Coolness: 134350 | i like it better than k actually. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Spinner replied on Thu Nov 24, 2005 @ 10:28pm |
 Coolness: 77250 | Originally posted by DEMEZRIEL...
Originally posted by daFTWin...
omg, the most known danger with k is that it slows down the respitory system... Fact and experience are two very different things. It doesn't, look it up. That's why it's still used on human babies and the elderly. Exactly....most shit will shut down in your brain,but youl notice that your breathing,is normal,sommetimes even better ,your pulse will also be about normal,even if u feel its pounding , Ah K...... = Wonderland |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri Nov 25, 2005 @ 3:06am |
 Coolness: 92345 | Once I took PCP and I thought I was a character in a hentai, so I ended up having six hours of the craziest kinkiest non-stop sex ever, after which I suddenly snapped right out of and couldn't remember a fucking thing, so I didn't knwo what the fuck was going on, and I was like "what the hell are you doing to me?", and he was like like `"woooah woah woah, what the hell you talking about, YOUR the one jumping on me." Of all the stupid fucked up things I did on PCP I think that was that time was definitely the strangest.. so many more stories, so many more. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Spinner replied on Fri Nov 25, 2005 @ 9:47am |
| Coolness: 77250 | Id luv too see the look on your face when u said that....lmfao |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Fri Nov 25, 2005 @ 5:15pm |
 Coolness: 91770 | Uppers and downers are classifications of drugs, and classifications are just labels used to simplify the world. Every drug is different, but some are relatively similar to each other in terms of effects and how they work on the brain. For example, speed and coke both give a sense of alertness, confidence, and energy, and work by releasing dopamine in the brain. So it makes sense to come up with a classification like "uppers" or "stimulants" to describe those and similar drugs. But trying to group all drugs as either uppers or downers is pretty useless since (a) many drugs don't fall neatly into either category and (b) you would add up having drugs in the same category that have NOTHING in common with each other, which defeats the purpose of classification in the first place. K can be stimulating - do small bumps over the course of a party and you'll be dancing all night - but a large dose will knock you out. So, obviously, K doesn't clearly fit into either uppers or downers. In addition, any classification system that puts K in the same category as H (if you put it with the downers) or coke (if you put it with the uppers) is pretty useless, since K is totally different from either H or coke. So maybe we need more specific classifications - I think some reasonable categories are:
stimulants ex coke, speed, meth opiates ex heroin, opium, morphine, various pharmecuticals tryptamine psychedelics ex mushrooms, LSD, DMT phenylthymine psychedelics ex mescaline, 2c-b, 2ct7 psychedelic amphetamines ex MDMA, MDA dissociative anesthetics ex PCP, K, DXM barbituates ex valium, xanax |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Fri Nov 25, 2005 @ 9:14pm |
 Coolness: 146405 | now that's something i agree with :)
excepted that speed and meth are just the same thing, i think. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» narfette replied on Sat Nov 26, 2005 @ 4:36pm |
 Coolness: 57290 | I like K because it is the only drug I know that can have completely different effects at different dosages. If I take just a bump here and there it feels like I'm walking with moonboots: it's all bouncy. If I take a little more, I completely lose all balance.. if I take a little more.. I'm fucking floating with Lucy in the sky with diamonds. I like it for many reasons. I like it when combined with LSD. I like it when I'm drinking. It doesn't turn me into a prick. I don't know. I just like it. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mali replied on Sun Nov 27, 2005 @ 7:10pm |
 Coolness: 202195 | doing too much K = urine track effection! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nter replied on Sun Nov 27, 2005 @ 7:51pm |
 Coolness: 92575 | enflamed!! trust me it is not as fun as it sounds esp getting them 2 or 3 times a month. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Nov 28, 2005 @ 12:55am |
| Coolness: 92345 | Originally posted by POISONED CANDY...
Uppers and downers are classifications of drugs, and classifications are just labels used to simplify the world. Every drug is different, but some are relatively similar to each other in terms of effects and how they work on the brain. For example, speed and coke both give a sense of alertness, confidence, and energy, and work by releasing dopamine in the brain. So it makes sense to come up with a classification like "uppers" or "stimulants" to describe those and similar drugs. But trying to group all drugs as either uppers or downers is pretty useless since (a) many drugs don't fall neatly into either category and (b) you would add up having drugs in the same category that have NOTHING in common with each other, which defeats the purpose of classification in the first place. K can be stimulating - do small bumps over the course of a party and you'll be dancing all night - but a large dose will knock you out. So, obviously, K doesn't clearly fit into either uppers or downers. In addition, any classification system that puts K in the same category as H (if you put it with the downers) or coke (if you put it with the uppers) is pretty useless, since K is totally different from either H or coke. So maybe we need more specific classifications - I think some reasonable categories are: stimulants ex coke, speed, meth opiates ex heroin, opium, morphine, various pharmecuticals tryptamine psychedelics ex mushrooms, LSD, DMT phenylthymine psychedelics ex mescaline, 2c-b, 2ct7 psychedelic amphetamines ex MDMA, MDA dissociative anesthetics ex PCP, K, DXM barbituates ex valium, xanax I disagree, I'm down with the tree. I think the tree makes more sense to me. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Nov 28, 2005 @ 12:58am |
| Coolness: 92345 | although people often group things up into : stimulants/depressants/hallucinogens.. cause it makes more sense to most people, even though if you wanted to look at it medically, your hallucinogens might fit into the other two. It's true it's much more clear trying to get across to someone this way. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Mon Nov 28, 2005 @ 3:51am |
 Coolness: 102845 | ^i love ur hentai story. lol. d^.^b |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mAd-kiloZ replied on Tue Nov 29, 2005 @ 3:51am |
 Coolness: 91245 | kkkkkkkkk |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown replied on Thu Dec 1, 2005 @ 6:13pm |
 Coolness: 221845 | what i want to know is how come when you do K, you always have to piss so much, and why is it so hard to piss?
fucken hate when that happens comming out of da hole.. ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Spinner replied on Thu Dec 1, 2005 @ 8:11pm |
| Coolness: 77250 | Mmm,
That silly hole ... :P |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Wed Dec 7, 2005 @ 12:55pm |
 Coolness: 51050 | hey vinny, here's a possible explanation for that side effect:
Do different brands of Ketamine have different effects? Pharmaceutical liquid Ketamine is sold under various tradenames, notably Ketalar, Ketaset, and Ketamine 500. Different brands can have different effects. For instance, Ketalar contains the preservative benzthonium chloride, which is an anticholinergic agent which counteracts the effects of the brain neurotransmitter, acetylcholine. It has its own psychoactive effects seperate from Ketamine, mainly "delerium" at higher doses. Ketamine 500 contains the potentially neurotoxic substance, chlorobutanol, which has displayed harmful effects in some animal experments. It is not known whether these preservative survive the 'cooking' process when converting liquid K to powder. (1) the key word there is anticholinergic. meaning it inhibits the production or working of acetylcholine, which is a chemical transmitter in the central nervous system (CNS) as well as in the parasympathetic nervous system in many organisms including humans. when acetylcholine is inhibited by substances known as anticholinergics, you can have effects like: Ataxia; loss of coordination Decreased mucus production in the nose and throat; consequent dry, sore throat Prevention of salivation Stops perspiration; consequent increased thermal dissipation through the skin leading to hot, red skin Increased body temperature Pupil dilation (mydriasis); consequent sensitivity to bright light (photophobia) Loss of accommodation (loss of focusing ability, blurred vision — cycloplegia) Double vision (diplopia) Increased heart rate (tachycardia) URINARY RETENTION Diminished bowel movement, sometimes ileus Increased intraocular pressure, dangerous for people with narrow-angle glaucoma as you can see, urinary retention is on that list. scopolamine, one of the main active ingredients at work when you take datura , is a powerful anticholinergic, and i've personally noticed the same urinary difficulties while on datura; not very pleasant. so according to that first blurb i quoted (from [ www.thegooddrugsguide.com ] some preparations of ketamine contain different substances as well eg: Ketalar contains the preservative benzthonium chloride, which is an anticholinergic. so maybe the K you got those times you had difficulty pissing was from Ketalar, or maybe whatever brand it DID come from had benzthonium chloride as a preservative... sources: wikipedia, the gooddrugsguide, and the use of logical thought processes |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown replied on Tue Dec 13, 2005 @ 7:17pm |
| Coolness: 221845 | thanks Josh.. you da man :)
now when are we getting down to sniff up a little?? :D |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FrAnCko replied on Mon Dec 19, 2005 @ 8:18pm |
 Coolness: 60450 | and what about the Ketalean ?!? |
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