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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 10:52am |
une personne change beaucoup encore 14 et 20 ans
jconnais beaucoup de monde, moi inclus, que les choses qu'on a fait a 14, rendu a 20 ans, on les aurait peut etre pas fait, sans bien sure regretter. A force de connaître le monde, on réalise beaucoup entre cet age la (aussi entre 20-25 25-30, mais je trouve que entre 14-20 c'est plus "intense") Update » Daf wrote on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 10:54am yoshin true, though the 2 persons need to know that
convincing a girl that you love her only to fuck her, that's wrong, that's the limit if everyone agree and know the intention, sex is definitly fine! though a 14 years old might want sex for the wrong reason, though the reason to let her gain experience and know really want she want and need (boys and girls) | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Niji replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 10:54am |
Originally Posted By YOSHIN
to the debate though... having sex with someone does not mean establishing a couple relationship. sometimes it can be just that - sex. and enjoy the older partner because they have some experience :) Whereas younger people are more prone to drama, based on mistaking physical contact for blossoming coupledom? :p | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 10:57am |
Originally Posted By NIJI
Whereas younger people are more prone to drama, based on mistaking physical contact for blossoming coupledom? :p sometimes you need the experience (and the pain attached to it) to attain the wisdom... that's what a lot of what being young is about........ you live, you learn. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:02am |
Originally Posted By YOSHIN
sometimes you need the experience (and the pain attached to it) to attain the wisdom... that's what a lot of what being young is about........ you live, you learn. That sounds awfully close to saying that it's okay to manipulate and abuse teenagers because it makes them learn. I'm pretty sure that's not what you meant but hey, it's also kind of creepy :D | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:02am |
well that's not entirely true, but in some case yes
i never needed to get fucked by a 25 years old guy when i was underage to understand i shouldn't trust everyone i had boyfriends of my age with who i experience sex, but it was always wanted and i never suffered from those experience (i have one regret, and i was 19 haha, but no pain) i just watched all the other girl crying in class for being so naive, thinking the guy loved them but fucked them only for themself and then left them heart broken! we can learn from other people past and mistake, no need to try them Update » Daf wrote on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:03am then again, everyone in school was judging me for not being like everyone (or "easy" :P) | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:04am |
Aight, I'm obviously biased in all of this, so I won't say much.
+1 to Rev, that's pretty much exactly my opinion :) Yoshin is also right. Guess it's a matter of establishing what both parties want and being honest about it. But like Daf said, it's all shades of grey. I met and dated anywhere from 18-34, and I'm still hard-pressed to say which girl is/was more mature. But some of the older girls (i.e. older than me) do rank bottom for sure. | |
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:06am |
We have to understand that, unfortunately, some people just never mature.
Ever. :D | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:07am |
How are you biased? Are you dating an under aged girl? Or were you talking about Antonino's pics? | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:07am |
only if you let yourself be manipulated, you are.
and where are those kid's parents? when i was underage i was busy with school and gymnastics, so i don't know what it's like... but i think that the idea of going to a rave when you're 14 is what's kind of wrong. Update » AYkiN0XiA wrote on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:11am especially if you dress in only your bra... come on....... *brr* Update » AYkiN0XiA wrote on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:13am (or if you do so, do expect a lot of advances, etc. we speak of hormones, we speak of animal within humans, of DNA, of reproduction instincts... and of people on drugs........) | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:08am |
"where are those kid's parents?"
i lolled | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Niji replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:14am |
Originally Posted By DAF
"where are those kid's parents?" At work. Or at their therapist's for their burnout. huhu. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:14am |
I'm pretty sure that the basic definition of being manipulated is having your behavior changed against your will. It's not something you're usually aware of; you can't "let yourself be manipulated"...
Yoshin, make up your mind. Either they're old and mature enough to have sex or they're too young and need parent supervision and shouldn't be in raves. Otherwise, if you think both points are valid, you have a very weird vision of teenagehood. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:18am |
Originally Posted By NIJI
At work. Or at their therapist's for their burnout. huhu. haha yeah always makes me laugh to hear people say that "where are the parents" Yes parents should teach their children what they have learn in life but what if your parent live their life in a way you don't agree. I think someone should find is way by himself, i met in life strong people who didn't even had parents! people with good values and etc blaming the parents is totally retarded, but in some case, i can agree that i wouldn't hurt if some of them were more present! | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:19am |
Originally Posted By REVERENDN
We have to understand that, unfortunately, some people just never mature. Ever. :D Precisely Originally Posted By strik_ix
How are you biased? Are you dating an under aged girl? Or were you talking about Antonino's pics? Never "underaged", no. But anywhere from -10 to +5 my own age. In relative terms, I've actually dated older girls more often/for longer periods. Hence why I can say, from my experience, that age doesn't necessarily equal maturity. My humble opinion anyway. And I'll stop here, for obvious reasons. Some of those girls might actually be lurking these boards . Originally Posted By yoshin
but i think that the idea of going to a rave when you're 14 is what's kind of wrong. Some of the older crew here might remember Cloé from back in the days. 6' something, looked like a 20 yo. And actually 14. Kinda scary memories | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:20am |
it probably depends on the person. i know for sure i was not mature enough......
my point is that if you're not mature enough you should not be dressing trashy in raves... and then complaining that older people try to have sex with you. i mean, of course they're older... it's a rave! not high school........... and of course they try to hit on you... you're dressed provocatively, and people are on whatever drugs taking away inhibitions...... Update » AYkiN0XiA wrote on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:24am but i do agree that if any of us see that 14 year old girl being harassed by antonino (or any other) we should protect her, like we would for a younger sister. Update » AYkiN0XiA wrote on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:25am pictures are just pictures, no harm done... but if things get more serious, maybe it's time for a reality check on both of them. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:25am |
I was 15 at my first rave and I thought (at the time) that it was perfectly normal. With some hindsight, I now know it's far from normal and I wouldn't want my children (if I have any, *crosses fingers*) to be anywhere near a rave at that age.
Sex with people their age at 15 doesn't bother me at all, being around a shit ton of drugs and people twice their age who dress like they're extras from Sesame Street is a little too much for me. For the record, before the candy kids get all pissed off, I did dress like an extra from Sesame Street too, I'm just pointing out the facts. If I could go back in time, I wouldn't change a thing, but I can't imagine the amount of the stress my poor parents must have been going through. ***damn we're getting further and further away from the topic... sorry**** | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Niji replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:28am |
Originally Posted By YOSHIN
my point is that if you're not mature enough you should not be dressing trashy in raves... and then complaining that older people try to have sex with you. i mean, of course they're older... it's a rave! not high school........... and of course they try to hit on you... you're dressed provocatively, and people are on whatever drugs taking away inhibitions...... Because of course, it's always the most mature people wearing short short skirts, showing the most cleavage and doing the most drugs? You're not old enough to have entirely forgotten how young girls often times do these things PRECISELY because they are not mature, or because they are (unconciously?) confusing sex and attention with respect and love, etc. etc. etc. ... no need to have felt this way yourself: we've all witnessed this around us in high school. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:29am |
Nyarly: I totally, utterly agree. See, that's what I've been trying to tell you guyz for years, but, me being me, I suck with words so it just ended with misunderstandings. -__-;
To put it bluntly, I don't like people treating other people like sex objects. I don't like people taking advantage of others, be it because of age difference or anything else. You fit this description? Back off. >__< I, like Daf, also didn't need to get fucked over at 14-15 years-old to understand that I needed to wait until I knew myself enough, knew what I was seeking, and found and trusted someone good. And I found him. Some of you guys said that people change from 16 to 25... Is it possible to not change? Because, well, I'm not 25 yet, but what I liked 10 years ago, is the same things I like now... I think the only change is me being a little more able to deal with my problems & diseases, but for the rest, I don't think I changed... | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» CMYK replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:31am |
Je savais pas que la photo pi le sexe avait autant de point en commun, random picture its like random sex in some point | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Wed Jan 5, 2011 @ 11:33am |
niji -- yes, yes, i know.
but also that person must learn to assume the consequences of how they dress and act. and as older responsible people we can just keep an eye on them and intervene if things get too far, out of hand... like social therapy, like older sisters, something like that. we can all kind of watch each other and make sure we're safe in raves... just like it's important to have people who are experienced on drugs to guide someone who may go through a bad trip.. | |
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