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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:35pm
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Originally Posted By N.A

haha...

well, cutter has a god point, it being about aesthetics rather than improvements.

of course she/he can do whatever the fuck he/she wants, but it seems like a lot of trouble just to be on the outside what you feel on the inside. besides, and i'm going to get alot of flack for this, but it's 100% psychological, so it's like if someone has split personalities we should stick on another couple of heads onto his body, so he can look the way he feels 'inside' (ok, that may be an extreme comparison, but still...)

anyway, it's like boob jobs, it more freakish than beautiful. at the same time, the person is free to use whatever technology is available to them to make any personal changes. but, maybe those changes should be going on at a mental level, not a physical one.

imo.


AAAAH!! NA !! THANKS ... my god we have found intelligence in the machine at last....
Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:45pm
There used to be an age where modified atheletes were considered BAD ETHICS.

now this sex swap procedure , is only there to help the hospitals that prefer giving a service then washing their hands after its done for further support of the subject instead of
providing actual help.

trap in a mans body,,, heh IM A MILLIONNAIR TRAP IN A POOR BOYS BODY GIVE ME GAZIILLIONS!
I'm feeling univox u2048 *x2* right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:43pm
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Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD

how do you tell a moron than doesnt know its a moron ?
obvioulsy gamos you knopw nothing about raising children,
if the kid cry for candy all day long , will you rot its teeth and give it the box ???


If my child was self-identifiying with the opposite gender since child hood, was mature, serious, and had thought it thru, and at 16 wanted a sex-change operation, I would probably let them. I would simply want to put my child in the best position possible to make the proper decision. If I thought he had all the information he was ever going to need/get, and there was no added value to making him wait longer (because its not goign to reduce the uncertainty of the decision), then whats the point of making him wait? He's not magically going to wake up at 17 or 18 and be like "I feel like a boy now, even though for the past 16 years im sure I felt like a girl"
I'm feeling apathetic right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:46pm
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There used to be an age where modified atheletes were considered BAD ETHICS.
now this sex swap procedure , is only there to help the hospitals that prefer giving a service then washing their hands after its done for further support of the subject instead of
providing actual help.
trap in a mans body,,, heh IM A MILLIONNAIR TRAP IN A POOR BOYS BODY GIVE ME GAZIILLIONS!
Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:47pm
WELL IM GOING TO BREAK THIS TO YOU GAMOS , YOU WONT BE HELPING YOULL JUST CHOOSE THE EASY WAY AND
CLOSE YOU EYES ON THIS. way to go parenting !

no wonder the world is collapsing.
Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:48pm
THIS IS NOT A TATTOO CHRIST
Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:48pm
plus your closing your eyes on how the world really sees this.
Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:49pm
plus way to stop your genetic lineage.
Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:49pm
and be the black sheep for the others
Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:51pm
why cope with a small problem WHEN YOU CAN CREATE A HUMOUNGUS ONE instead and permanatly not being able to go back ?? while butchering the only thing your parent with proud and joy give you ??
I'm feeling univox u2048 *x2* right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:51pm
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Originally Posted By GAMOS

If my child was self-identifiying with the opposite gender since child hood, was mature, serious, and had thought it thru, and at 16 wanted a sex-change operation, I would probably let them.


we're saying that means that raised a nutcase :P

hahaha cutter, 'poor man in a millionaires body, gimme gazillions!' hahaha
I'm feeling you up right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:52pm
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total disrespect to everything imo, the most narcissist act EVER

this is why YOU have to make your mind COMPLETELY on this , and be the roll model YOU should be.
I'm feeling univox u2048 *x2* right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:56pm
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Whos the one closing their eyes and living in dreamland cutter? You can close your eyes and tell yourself over and over again, but it will never make it true. It youre gay, youre gay. If youre transgender, youre transgender. At some point you have to accept them for who they are and let them figure it out, rather then shield them from life or trying to make them someone theyre not.
I'm feeling apathetic right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:58pm
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*puts fingers in ears*

blablalalalalaalalalLalalalalalaALALALALALALAL
I'm feeling warm and fuzzy right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 3:58pm
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what ever i invite you (gamos) to swap yours .
Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:01pm
since when giving heroin to heroin addict ever solved a thing ? nyways you know im right or else you just covered your ears like alienz pointed out.
I'm feeling univox u2048 *x2* right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MsShlee replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:00pm
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You guys are so annoying.
I'm feeling happy right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:01pm
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you too =8Q
Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:05pm
nywasy , shows how much the problem is EXOTIC to all of you and never experienced it for anywhere in your life but in books or in south park.

like i said , my ex's ex boyfriend did the swap, and youd see that , youd start kicking you kids butt to say the least,

but since you think im a crazy hitter somehow , let me re-phrase:

you would bond with the child and take him to la ronde or something,
reworks your values etc..

meanwhile u suck your not even trying.
I'm feeling univox u2048 *x2* right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MsShlee replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:02pm
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yeah but i'm me so it's okay.
I'm feeling happy right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Shindy replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:05pm
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Originally Posted By CUTTERHEAD

since when giving heroin to heroin addict ever solved a thing ?


I don't think sexual preferences and drug addiction can be compared no?

one you are born with, the other you learn (sort of speak)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:07pm
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Originally Posted By GAMOS

trying to make them someone theyre not.


isn't that what people who go through with these procedures are doing?

how do 'feel like a girl' if you're a boy? how do you know what a girl feels like?

and we're not saying the person doesn't have the right to do it, just that you have to have some mental issues if you think that you should be something that you are not. (i'm not a cat, so i'm not going to have a cat's tail & fur stuck on me 'cause i feel like a cat sometimes)

like chewing gum in class, if you reconstruct a person so they can 'look how they feel' then we should all get plastic surgery and make everyone 'beautiful'...'cause i'm sure not too many people think "i feel like an ugly person, so being ugly suits me fine"

anyway, i think the reason for going through with such a procedure is psychological, and the problem won't be solved through physical changes...IMO!
I'm feeling you up right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:08pm
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Originally Posted By SHINDY

I don't think sexual preferences and drug addiction can be compared no?

one you are born with, the other you learn (sort of speak)


imo its psychological so yes,

but the fact is that you have to analyse environmental side effects too, witch isnt taken either for the child in question or people who will cope with the child...

nywasy , shows how much the problem is EXOTIC to all of you and never experienced it for anywhere in your life but in books or in south park.
like i said , my ex's ex boyfriend did the swap, and youd see that , youd start kicking you kids butt to say the least,
but since you think im a crazy hitter somehow , let me re-phrase:
you would bond with the child and take him to la ronde or something,
reworks your values etc..
meanwhile u suck your not even trying.
I'm feeling univox u2048 *x2* right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:20pm
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Originally Posted By MSSHLEE

You guys are so annoying.


Pfff. You love me. Cuz Im boxxy you see
I'm feeling apathetic right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 5:17pm
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Originally Posted By GAMOS

If my child was self-identifiying with the opposite gender since child hood, was mature, serious, and had thought it thru, and at 16 wanted a sex-change operation, I would probably let them.


HAHAHAHA man you'd be a fucking horrible parent. Seriously, go get fuckin' spayed or neutered right now and save any potential offspring the life of hell you'd put them through.

Your profile says your 22, so you're still too young to realise it yet, but man, NO ONE at 16 is "mature" and "thinks things through" enough for making a life-altering decision of this magnitude.

When you're a teenager, you've got hormones rampaging through your body and fucking everything up, including affecting how you think and your mood. Teenagers, both male and female, are pretty much PMSing 100% of the time, it's just that at some points they're less crazy than others.

When you're 16, you think you're king of the world; you hate your parents because it's in your nature to go against everything and learn on your own by making your own mistakes. You think that everything that anyone tells you to do is bad, that every adult is just stupid and out to turn you into a clone of themselves.. But really, they're just trying to keep you from REALLY fucking your life up by making stupid decisions like doing drugs when you're young (hormones are modifying your body, and you go and poison those hormones with chemicals that some biker mixed up in a bathtub somewhere? Yeah, REALLY great decision)..

If you really ARE 22, you're still too close to your "insane hormone" period to realise how much of a douche/idiot you are right now. Usually, despite people thinking puberty lasts only for your teens, it still goes in mildly and tapers off untill you're around 25+.. Then your brain is "free" from all the insanity that the hormones cause you and you look back and think "Holy fuck, man, what the FUCK was I thinking?" about 90% of the things you ever did.

There is NO such thing as a "mature" 16 year old. There's very few mature 25 year olds, and there's very few mature 30 year olds, but that's about when you've got enough of a head on your shoulders to be able to properly think things through and make real important, life-altering decisions about yourself.
I'm feeling your norks right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 6:30pm
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you dont know that for sure. I SAID HWEAAT IFFF. WHAT IFFFF

HOW DO YOU Know that eery 16 y/o in the owlrd is immature. I bet theyres at least one whos mature enouhg.

but that wasnt even my point. my point was that being transgender and getting a sex change is ok. We should accept and love peopel for who they are man.
I'm feeling apathetic right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 6:46pm
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Originally Posted By GAMOS

you dont know that for sure. I SAID HWEAAT IFFF. WHAT IFFFF

HOW DO YOU Know that eery 16 y/o in the owlrd is immature. I bet theyres at least one whos mature enouhg.

but that wasnt even my point. my point was that being transgender and getting a sex change is ok. We should accept and love peopel for who they are man.


No, I'm pretty certain EVERYONE at 16 is going through puberty, unless you've got some sort of hormonal problem. Puberty by it's very nature is the exact same thing as women going through PSM; it's a ton of hormones flooding your system, and those hormones affect your logic, reasoning and emotions.

At that age you are in absolutely NO state of mind to make a decision like that; chances are, untill your brain has had time to "level out" with the hormones, you should not be deciding anything as major as that.

We should accept people for who they are, yes. And who they are up untill they're around their mid-20s changes every couple of months/weeks, because they're being bombarded 24/7 with thought-altering chemicals. Letting a 16 year old decide to have a sex-change is about as responsible as letting someone on acid decide that they really CAN fly because they believe it; their mind is NOT in the right place.

Who you are is on the inside; your thoughts, your life experiences. You don't need any sort of surgery to be yourself, that "need" is just the result of our culture having evolved to a point where people can turn their fantasy into reality, and they're told constantly that they're not good enough and that they can have whatever they want.

Does a person need a sex-change to live? No. Heart-surgery if they've got clogged arteries, yeah. Does someone need a breast augmentation because their life depends on it? No. But getting an apendix removed, yeah that can save a life. A sex-change is an un-necesary cosmetic surgery that people are told they can get to make them "feel better", but really, their whole life they'll still know the one truth that they can't ever forget; that's NOT who they are, because that's NOT how they were born, it's just a fantasy that they had that got encouraged by an industry that charges outrageous prices for an un-necesary cosmetic surgery.
I'm feeling your norks right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 6:54pm
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Originally Posted By GAMOS

you dont know that for sure. I SAID HWEAAT IFFF. WHAT IFFFF

HOW DO YOU Know that eery 16 y/o in the owlrd is immature. I bet theyres at least one whos mature enouhg.

but that wasnt even my point. my point was that being transgender and getting a sex change is ok. We should accept and love peopel for who they are man.


yep , themselves , without external help (self conscious) and without the need of surgeons that will tryu to make you live your cell duplication again (whitch HE CAN NOT so he turn to CUTTIN AND FEEDING PILLS)

wow gamos , i understand you want freedom of thought , liberty of expression and all that,

but if ppl realised that beside ASKING from the system , would in turn TUNE IN, and DROP THE BULLSHIT

we would be OUT of that mess,

your fuctionnal "kid" were talking about will turn out sassy and witout a spine if you let him chop his balls at 15 y old.

esp for a music carrere... light up
Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 6:56pm
entering a clinic program as such is far from freedom

AND IF WAY FUCKING FAR FROM ANYTHING NATURAL.
I'm feeling univox u2048 *x2* right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 7:06pm
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yeah, no one is arguing that the person has the right to do want they want, just that they're perhaps a wee fucked in the head.

anyway, Fred's post was pretty conclusive...but!:

it's like that lady who became a man, 'cause she feels like she's a man inside, but then gets pregnant! last i checked, being pregnant isn't very male. so did the girl really want to be a man? or is he/she just a little nuts?

not saying transgender peops are all insane, or wrong, just that maybe their issues are more in their minds than on their bodies... .. .

personally i don't really care...no skin off my teeth!
I'm feeling you up right now..
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