:)

I learned by myself over a short period of time, enough to play out to then pick up the necessary experience and additional skills ... but I still, after 12 years, learn something new every month, like you would in any discipline.

For people who aren't patient enough, or want to start on the right foot right away, this kind of school is probably a good idea ... and I'd rather people went to school than fuck up in public for years before learning proper technique.

Song selection, though one of the most important aspects of mixing, remains fairly personal. Play what both you and hopefully the crowd would like, that's my motto. You can teach people about getting ready for a gig, to research what music should be brought etc, but you can't teach someone to have good taste in music, and I don't think at the school they tell people ''this is a good song, this is a bad song'' ... and if you can't tell what peole like in your prefered style, you probably shouldn't be DJing anyway xD

And no matter how good the tunes you have are, if you can't play 'em right, you still suck.

Anyway, with people often complaining about older DJs not teaching, or DJs being incompetent, or noobs not learning properly; DJ courses are a decent idea.

xD

not her fault, they didn't even give her monitor speakers! how the fuck is she supposed to beat-match properly .. geez .. :P

and honestly, she's doing more actual 'mixing' than alot of DJs i've seen, and the mistakes prove it ain't pre-recorded! hehehe

well, at least she got the Tiesto arm-dance moves down -- after all, isn't that what modern EDM is all about, looking good on stage?

^ this and this !

Seriously, once again ppl are arguing that all is well here 'cause it's worse elsewhere -- argument is invalid!

And of course, by fighting these seemingly ''trivial'' laws we are preventing our Country from becoming one of those 'worse' places.

Give up your freedoms one at a time, it's exactly what the govn't and big business want, so that eventually you wake up and find yourself a fuckin' robot, with zero freedoms except the freedom to go work 9 to 5 and live a shitty routine of lifelessness.

Without these freedoms, of speech / of information sharing on the' net / of private phone calls / of carrying what you want in your bag / of gathering in groups, you will find yourself at the mercy of what neo-liberalists and right-wing Christians decide what life should be. They are the few! We are the many - unfortunately they have the power and the cash.

The students aren't even the issue at this point .. what matters is that ppl are opening their eyes to the horrible things the 'man' is trying to control us with. It's also global -- no one who isn't profiting from the system is happy.

I want my punk rock, I want my raves, I want my e-mails to be private, and I want to be able to walk down the street with more than 4 friends and not be arrested for it, if the Gov. does something I find negative for humanity I want to be able to have a say about it. I want to make my own decisions.

Otherwise, vote for one of 3 choices, all of which are the same shit, and pretend that society is functioning in the best interest of human kind.

A government is supposed to just collect taxes and build/maintain infrastructure, Hospitals, Schools.
Instead, they do this poorly, and work hard for the interest of banks and major corporations (who, ironically, dislike the Gov. and use them to their own ends - neo-liberalism wants less Gov. control and want to privatize everything that makes money, all just for profit and cash, nothing more) .

Ask yourself: is the trade-off for your small freedoms worth it? What are you getting in return? Who is benefiting the most? What's the fucking point of these new laws anyway?

moi aussi!

merci Kuzu, j'suis content de savoir que leur nouveau est pas d'la merde ;) -- va falloir que j'aille l'écouter aussi ...

xD

''quit threatening yourself, quit threatening yourself ... ''

grass

haha xD ^



ermahgerd! i'm so insulted! oh my poor feelings :(

but no, the real sad thing is that bandwidth is being wasted on your retarded phony verbal diarrhea.
all that electrcity being wasted to bounce your dumbass trolly comments across IP addresses just so you can be an anonym-ass .. such a shame!

yeah, i never kill & tell on the first date ;)

cheese

where'd you get your info, from 'Right-wing Propaganda For Dummies' ?

maybe you overheard a crazy homeless person yelling it out?

nothing you wrote has any basis in reality or fact ... not even very creative; if you're gonna make shit up, at least use some imagination! xD

( <-- laughing at you, not with you )

Haha xD ... it's always nice to finally meet / shake-hands-with people you've only been communicating with virtually :)

It also automatically lifts the tension & resentment of past 'discussions' :P

ermahgad -- the since is just so damn ravemantic these days! xD



rofl! .. PMs are for pussies with something to hide

haha xD ... yeah, he partied so hard he never made it back here to write about it ... :p

frites

well that sucks :/

xD

it's all very ravemantic ;)

duct tape

No, I don't think I'm free, and that's part of the frustration ...

Never said I was more brilliant than anyone else, but yes, I find that your argument ''F1 is ok 'cause other things pollute too'' is a little simple-minded and short-sighted. Sorry.

Glad to note you guys are at least conscious of the environment, but again, saying one is ok 'cause the rest also bad, is a step in the wrong direction. I believe we have to rethink the entire process, not just look towards stuff that is a tiny bit 'greener'.
And no one has yet to address the issue that oil will simply run out some time in the not-so-distant future. Guess is doesn't bother you that even if we were all fans of the GrandPrix, it still won't be possible to run it in 40 years when all the oil is gone or nearly gone -- and when you can't drive your own car anymore, you might reflect on the time you watched other people drive their cars for your entertainment.



Bon, bein, c'est grave aussi, et ça a besoin de changer autant.

Je ne cherche aucunement à seulement chier sur le F1, j'trouve que beaucoup d'autre trucs guaspilleur ont besoin de changer aussi.

Par contre, le sujet ici est le F1, et il y a une tonne de raison, donc tous déjà stipulé, à pas aimer le F1 et la merde que ca fait à notre ville, notre province. Et vous, vous trouvez que des façons de justifier le tout. Alors, si vous voulez qu'on lache vos precieux courses de chars, arrêtez donc de chier sur notre opinion là dessus, et le sujet deviendra clos; agree to disagree.

Bon, pour la 3ieme fois j'aimerai laisser tomber ce thread, mais tant que vous me 'quote' je vais vous répondre, malgré moi.

WTF!? So, art is useless, but cars driving in a circle for the entertainment of a few, is perfectly NOT useless??

I'm real sorry, but I think that ART in all its forms is alot more useful to society than a fuckin' car race. Art can teach, entertain, make you think, pass messages, and it interests millions and millions of people -- I guarantee you that cinema, music, paintings, sculptures, etc. reach a fan-base/audience that puts car racing to shame. Not to mention the diversity of its fan-base (and of curse the fact that it's a much bigger business) ...

Sure, the GP/F1 brings in a lot of money, but only for certain businesses! All sorts of our tax dollars go to a bunch of people who can otherwise afford it, as incentive 'cause they're greedy pricks who expect all the countries to basically bribe them to host their event. If you say that it generates 400 million (not that I really believe that number) then if 15% of that is got back in taxes, then it's still less than the 75 million WE invested. Great for merchants? Who gives a fuck! WE as a society lose 15 million on the deal, and that's just really bad business. So, it's great for Hotels, and all the business in a 6 block radius of the 'festival' -- places that are already in a money-making sector of our city ... wow. I'm not at all impressed!

There are about a thousand different ways of attracting tourists, I would ask that the City used its imagination instead of just going with this greedy prick's car-fest of waste and douche jockery.

Sick of hearing that Ecclestone doesn't wanna pay taxes?? But you don't agree that poor-ass students should pay less for education? You complain about students buying iPods, but don't care about the fact that Bernie needs 75 million of our dollars despite owning massive houses, probably hundreds of cars and fuckin' boats or some shit AND a billion dollar business ... that's a double-standard and it makes no sense!

Everything else was already pointed out smartly by SourUltraFast and BonusBeats.

Again, I'm sorry GKillaz and Max_X2, but I really don't get people like you. I really honestly don't understand the conflicting basis for your judgments, and your arguments seem like a simplistic reflection of the un-researched un-founded public opinion. You've obviously bought into the system and are happy with it, so there's no discussing with such stubborn persons who consider arts and the social-sciences as being completely useless. I dare you to imagine a world without these things. Would you really want to live as though the whole world was an even worse version of Ottawa?

Anyway, all that said, I'm outta this convo .., since it's two neo-liberalists arguing with a bunch of like-minded artists and socially-responsible individuals. Enjoy your drab gray world and your convoluted life.

Of course ... but I don't see the student as asking for money, I see it as them asking to NOT pay more money than they've been paying. If you say it was rough for you, imagine if you had to fork over another few hundred a year, would be that much tighter, that much harder to make ends meet. Plus Cegep is also alot cheaper than university.

If you're equating lower tuition with tax-payers 'paying more' into the school system, then that means we're all paying for the F1 too ($75 million), the boss of which refuses to pay taxes himself. I think that's a whole lot worse than using the tax dollars I and others inject into the system for education. So what's worse, paying for a bunch of kids' education (and their cell phones too by your logic) ... or paying for some ultra-rich whiny bitch's car-circus?

At least when the students graduate most of them will become educated citizens/tax-payers with decent jobs; helpful jobs. I can't say the same for Ecclestone and his flash-in-the-pan tourist attraction.

Good times! Thnx to the whole crew for the gig/music/party =)

Right. Poor people should only buy food, housing, and education. If your poor, you can't invest in entertainment and technology - you must absolutely live like a bored cave-man. o_O

How do you expect people to have positive schooling experience without a computer, or without taking a break from their studies to hit a club or go to a show? Plus, if non-rich people didn't invest in those ''extras'' then your precious capitalist economic system would collapse. If no one who was in school and between the ages of 18 and 25 bought an iProduct, Apple would go bankrupt.
(Not insulting your intelligence, just sayin': think about it ;) )

As for math, yes it is definitely very important. Everything around you is built/created with the principles of math and science. Even animals do math naturally; a bird knows how many eggs it has (to protect), a spider's web is a complex design for an insect, predators know how many of a herd they can eat to allow continued propagation of their food source, etc ...

Anyway, whatever ... I can't believe we're still having this conversation :P

smoke

right on! free crazy-core! =)

ouain, jusqu'à l'année prochaine ... :P

hahaha xD
Le pire cest que j'avait fait c'te joke de reference a Hitched parce-qu'on parlait, moi pis wally, justement de c't'incident la l'autre jour

(and yes, you can play Wally :p )

Can't believe I'm agreeing with a hippie/star-wars analogy xD but yes, you have a few points! ... ;)

I've always been willing to teach people how to DJ, secret tricks and all, but whenever someone asks, they never follow through. And, now, well, no one even asks anymore. Either people are more shy, or more stubborn.

I think there was a gap in the generations of ravers, 'cause of the cop-bust/whatever-other-bullshit fallout from a few years ago, raves kinda (to a certain extent) nearly skipped a generation. So, the 'passing along' of tradition got lost ...

The only way younger DJs/producers/promoters can learn now, is by reading the comments, on whatever site, that pop up once in a while, in which an old-schooler bitches about how things are done now ... :p

haha xD sorry! Didn't mean it that way!

Some sleeves that have random images can be really nice, if it was done over time, adding a little more to the 'collage' ... gives it personality!

But, if you're gonna get it all done at once, I just meant that you don't ask to have a skull + care-bears + a tree + aliens + fractals + a tiger + the moon ... know what I mean? ;)

hahahaha xD

rofl! xD

Yes, Dave, you win! Your prize is a free ticket to Hitched 2 :P

amen! xD

I really don't shit on lap-top DJs (I'm a bit of a technocrat, even if I still only use records and CDs) but there is an undeniable truth that the art of DJing getting lost 'cause of all this ...

IF a Dj with crazy skills can abuse the technology to make something better that what could be accomplished with normal gear, then cool! But unfortunately, all I hear are arguments for the awesomeness of the wide variety of possibilities, but have yet to hear 'em implemented. (aside from Mutante and Indica, old-school DJs who actually use modern technology for it's bonus features) ...

Easy solution: Sacrifice one Psy Dj, while he's playing and the zombies are dancing, run for cover! Then shoot 'em all in the head. Shooting the Dj after is optional. :P

lol Dee xD

Yeah, for a sleeve you definitely need a theme ... otherwise it's a big mess of crap.

Just think of your favorite things, the kind of stuff you know you'll like for your whole life, and is easily translatable to art. My friend has a bio-mechanical thing going on her arm, with gears n' stuff, it's very nice! SO, you can also go the way of something more abstract, probably won't get sick of it.

I can make some UN-suggestions: no flowers (you got already checked) no animals (they rarely look good enough - and realism on a sleeve is meh - imo) NO names (but you probably knew that already) and NO modern pop culture shit (it'll get old fast) ...

The next one should make it ...

interesting ... but about 10+ years late xD

There was even plenty of very popular dance music in the 90s, and that was electronic.
(who doesn't know 'i got the power' or 'pump up the jam' or all the Ace Of Bass hits etc. )

But, I agree, there's an even more steep rise in pop-edm over the past few years, and though I don't see alot of cheesy techno and house as having a less 'pop' sound than the actual pop-edm, I get their point here ...

The quotes by the legendary DJs in the article are pretty right on though.

''Vous voulez perdre des livres au lieu d'en lire? Le F1 est pour vous!'' :p

If losing weight is a sign of athleticism, then I guess doing crystal-meth should be in the next Olympics! xD

I sweat a whole lot and spend a fuck of a lot of energy when I mix, but I still don't consider DJing a sport ... wish it was though, I might get a few million bucks from the government and companies ;)

Car-racing might be considered a sport by definition, but I really wouldn't consider the drivers as athletes. Their reflexes are great, their focus is incredible, but they still aren't athletes (until they are forced to run to their cars and jump through the windows to reach the driver's seat as the race starts, and have to change their own tires)

Anyway, I might be drunk, but I still don't see how the F1 or GrandPrix is relevant in modern culture.

Maybe it would be more fuel-efficient to go back to watching two dudes beat the shit out of eachother in a Coliseum ;)

Keep in mind: it's cheaper to sit on the side of highway 20 with a beer and watch the cars zoom by :p

Don't panic! The CDC released an official statement this week, assuring people that this is NOT a Zombie apocalypse!

(they really did xD )

xD

some things just weren't meant to be ;)

got it too ... now I'm just waiting for my 15%! ch-ching!

alors, tu veut que le monde sacrifient leurs comfort personelle pour qu'on puisse continuer à avoir des courses? o_O

I can picture the new slogan: ''Save fuel so we can keep racing cars: car pool!''

Anyway, pollution isn't even the main problem. I was talking about the simple fact that there just isn't enough oil in the world to justify decadent waste. Given that most of what we use today is made with/uses/requires oil at some point in the many manufacturing/shipping stages, it just seems silly to throw a bunch of it out the window.

One day you'll have to chose between retiring car-races or having a toothbrush made of wood.