Religion was not the cause of all that, religion was simply a tool used to instill the necessary hate and fear needed in the population to carry out their greedy plans. It's not society that was modeled after religion it was religion that was modeled and modified after how they wanted society to be. Any religious texts they disagreed with they would get rid of, anything they didn't like they would deny, misconstrue and rewrite. Anyone who didn't agree was killed and I can bet that they would want their children to agree and avoid such luck. "Believing" was a matter of life or death. The vatican was clearly a lot less concerned with the truth of their own religion than control of the people. Do you really believe that someone who would change and hide the truth about their own religion actually places any value in it? If they even qualify as religous they'd be more like the devils minions.

That kind of mind control was always around but the Roman conquests marked the beginning of a new and more advanced age of mind control. I think we should talk abotu getting rid of hate, not religion. The only way to do that is dispell the lies or just don't let anything make you hate. Religion is capable of being a powerful tool against hate but we're talking about a religion partly and effectively designed as a backbone for hate. People have to know better. You think they will lose out if we get rid of religion but they still have plently of people like you who hate on religious people. And remember hate is the tool. They can still attack us and say it was the other guy. They'll use any kind of division to their advantage.

Besides it's impossible to get rid of all religous belief. Good luck getting rid of any.

This is also not true at all. I know many religious people who would say that all religions are the same.. maybe even most. I think the problem happens when we're led to believe that someone else's religion is actually out to destroy us and the only reason we can believe that is because we don't know them. They have the power to make us believe anything about what we don't already know.

I never got any of these spam messages in all my years on this site. I feel left out?

You'd have more blood and less ash.

Check at Payless too. They have Vans and Airwalk sometimes.

I don't know which side I'm on.

translation: anybody at all.

What I find especially retarded about this is that the reason some pupils are ignorant like that is beacuse of censorship like this.

On the other hand even though I learned about the holocaust in school all we were ever told was a bunch of jews were hated and extermianted and they cried. I would have really appreciated it a lot if they had actually bothered to teach us how something like the holocaust actually happens. All they ever told us was it happened and it was horrible and lots of poeple died but they don't teach us HOW it happened. If we want to make sure it never happens again we have to know how it happened in the first place but it's the one thing they don't teach us. They teach us to hold hands and sing anti-racism songs, they never taught us what rascism actually was.

Yeah well if her family didn't want her to know yet they should have at least waited for her to have the funeral. I think that's really selfish of the family.

I like how they site "ethicists". That's probably another way of saying "i couldn't find anyone to interview but my ethical next door neighbour".

Snake bursts after gobbling gator


An unusual clash between a 6-foot (1.8m) alligator and a 13-foot (3.9m) python has left two of the deadliest predators dead in Florida's swamps.
The Burmese python tried to swallow its fearsome rival whole but then exploded.

The remains of the two giant reptiles were found by astonished rangers in the Everglades National Park.

The rangers say the find suggests that non-native Burmese pythons might even challenge alligators' leading position in the food chain in the swamps.



The python's remains were found with the victim's tail protruding from its burst midsection. The head of the python was missing.

"Encounters like that are almost never seen in the wild... And here we are," Frank Mazzotti, a University of Florida wildlife professor, was quoted as saying by the Associated Press news agency.

"They were probably evenly matched in size. If the python got a good grip on the alligator before the alligator got a good grip on him, he could win," Professor Mazzotti said.

He said the alligator may have clawed at the python's stomach, leading it to burst.

"Clearly, if they can kill an alligator they can kill other species," Prof Mazzotti said.

He said that there had been four known encounters between the two species in the past. In the other cases, the alligator won or the battle was an apparent draw.

Burmese pythons - many of whom have been dumped by their owners - have thrived in the wet and hot climate of Florida's swamps over the past 20 years.

[ news.bbc.co.uk ]


I wonder how the snake lost it's head?

but it's not supposed to be a middle class job.

The bus strike doesn't affect me. I actually do care how much they make.

Yeah they have until Friday to agree on something.

From the facebook group:
Contre la grève à la STM / Against the strike
[ www.facebook.com ]
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La grève semble inévitable. Qui va payer? Les moins nantis, ceux qui ont des horaires irréguliers, et les étudiants en particulier.

Salaire d'un employé d'entretien à la STM : plus de 50 000$
Salaire moyen de base d'une infirmière au Québec : 34 500$
Salaire moyen des usagers du transport en commun à Montréal : ?
Salaire moyen d'un universitaire finissant à Montréal : ?
(Source : La Presse, 2006-2007)

Les employés d'entretien de la STM gagnent en moyenne plus que les (

And if the STM workers don't get what they want I highly doubt that all these middle class workers listed above will disappear.

Are you sure? Are they even allowed to work more than that while their co-workers are on strike?

LOL. Well you know the second orgasm is usually bigger and better than the first! So I won't rule it out.

After spying on her naked female friend.. heheh. What I was wondering at the end of the movie was whether she ever actually finished masturbating or if the whole movie was just her itching to climax.

Haha yeah.. that movie is almost worth watching just for the decapitation.

A while back I was ranting to my friend about how they don't make movies like Predator anymore. The kind where everything is super slow and calculated but still manages to absorb you. That captures the whole "hunter/hunted" thing. So he leant me Haute Tension. I'll admit that this movie has an absolutely terrible story but it managed to capture that hunter/hunted feeling making it a relaxing and absorbing film to watch, just the kind I was looking for. It's the kind of movie where story doesn't matter at all. If anybody knows of other films like that please tell.

cause I can only watch Predator so many times.

The union pays but technically it is the employees paying for it themselves with the money they invested in the union. If you have a union every employee pays a certain amount off of each paycheck towards it. That's just their money comming back to them.

yeah yeah but maybe he'll like it anyway. YOU HAVE TO WATCH IT OR I'LL CRY!

Ichi The Killer. Don't even think twice, just download it.

exactly.

I dunno about that. When the SAQ striked did minimum wage go up? I don't think so even though they were doing the jobs of minimum wage workers. It doesn't set any standards. It's not like people can leave their crappy minimum wage jobs anytime to work at the SCTUM or SAQ. I think you have to know someone, preferably a 100% quebecois family member to work at those places. Even if not I'm sure it's rare to find an opening and get hired. There's no employer competition what so ever.

It insults me a little that anyone would put the families and property of a STCUM worker over those of a guy workign at McDonalds, or even worse, immigrants working in factories with many children. I mean there are 16 year olds out there working to support their little brothers and sisters with no help at all. Yes these STCUM workers are making careers out of what they do and supporting families but what about everyone else who has families to support? It is their problem that they're making careers out of these jobs, they shouldn't be careers. The service they offer is obviously of utmost importance but(no offense to anyone) the individual employees are easily replaceable. That's what makes a persons value, is how easy they are to replace, not the value of the service they offer(since it can be offered by anyone). Most of these STCUM workers are expendible resources. That's why the guy at McD's is getting paid 7$ an hour, because he is expendible. There are people who worked their ass off everyday of university and who are making less. They're contributions to society are not only just as important but they are also not expendible. We need to keep those non-expendible people. By giving the STCUM more money, I'm sorry, teachers are not gonna get more. The government is NOT gonna reduce their own paychecks, that's the reality of the world. They are gonna take that money from elsewhere. That's why things should be prioritised.

I support the idea of unions but not this one. I don't like the government anymore than anybody else but if we want to live in a reasonable and equilateral society we HAVE to be somewhat reasonable towards them sometimes. We can't ALWAYS just push and push and complain and complain. Something has to be satisfactory at some point or it will never end. The fact is that they aren't gonna cut their own paychecks like I said so if we ever want them to funnel more money into healthcare stuff like this is gonna make sure that never even has a chance of happening. We have to prioritise things. We have a way as a society of turning a completly blind eye to the government and getting everything we can while giving nothing because we believe we are entitles to those things and we are. But we have to be reasonable about how they will react and how it will all come to impact us in the end. They added three metros and voila, no one is happy or even phased. Every positive act, whether it's too little too late or not, should be rewarded somehow. As a society we are impossible to please and I don't think that attitude is gonna get us far. There's a big difference between agreeing with someone and compromising with them. You don't have to agree, just be reasonable if you care at all abotu your sociey. This is too much pressure, it's unreasonable and it clearly comes at the worst time in terms of how much money the city just spent on the metro system. Yeah they have billions more that they would otherwise be spending on fancy cars but we have to be reasonable, we cant expect them to hand everything over to us(even if it is rightfully ours), that's reality.

It's not true btw that big companies with benefits all have unions. The vast majority of them do not and furthermore, even though you tend to get better benefits that does not equal more money or better treatment. A bigger more prestigious company will tend to pay less than a smaller counterpart. For example, a teacher at Concordia makes more than a teacher at McGill. It's the prestige of working at the place that lowers its value. Small companies suck for that too, I think medium sized is perfect.

Also this talk of unions having a lot of power in Quebec makes me laugh. Unions have less power in Quebec than anywhere else in Canada. At least for media sectors, it's ridiculous. CSN is a joke. Where I work we used to have a union and it was abolished by popular vote. Thank fucking god we are free.

A woman robbed of her fertility
By Jo Meek
Producer, Radio Four's Sterilised Nation


Elaine Riddick is a petite woman in her early fifties with a warm smile.
Today she lives in a comfortable home on the outskirts of Atlanta, but this wasn't how she spent her childhood.


Elaine was sterilised without her knowledge

She grew up in North Carolina with a violent father and an alcoholic mother.

She believes that the state used her chaotic childhood as a justification to sterilise her.

"When I was 13, I was raped. I had my beautiful son and when they cut me open, I had a caesarean, they sterilised me at the same time," she said.

"I didn't know anything about it until I was 19. I got married and tried to have a child. The doctor told me I had been butchered."

Eugenics movement

It sounds like a story from the dark ages but this happened less than 40 years ago. And it happened in the US.

Whilst the feminist movement was gaining ground on both sides of the Atlantic, across poor America their 'sisters' were victims of sterilisation laws, which had their foundations in the eugenics movement.

This year marks the centenary of the first eugenics laws passed in the United States.

Policies were drawn up in over 30 states in the US to sterilise women, men and children who were considered to be physically, mentally or morally 'defective'.

But in reality the majority of those who were sterilised were simply poor women.

Few have ever spoken about what happened because of embarrassment and shame.

Speaking out

But with her only son, Tony, by her side, Elaine Riddick has chosen to speak out about what happened to her.

"I think they saw it as a way to control me. They saw my parents were not available, so the state of North Carolina decided that they were going to sterilise me. I did nothing wrong.

"Now I'm healing a little bit I can talk about this. I can look you in the eye. I am not feeble minded. That's the reason they gave for doing that to me."

Between 1929 and 1974, across the state of North Carolina, more than 7600 men, women and children were sterilised.

Documents from the state's eugenics board reveal how for nearly 50 years this unelected body authorised 90% of all sterilisation cases brought before it.

Social workers used gossip in their reports for the Eugenics Board.

Promiscuity

Elaine Riddick's form refers to "community reports that she was 'running around' late at night" and her "promisicuity" and her "inability to control herself" constituted grounds for sterilisation.


John Railey

By the late 1960s, ironically as the Civil Rights movement grew, North Carolina began to target its Black population.

More than 60% of those sterilised were black women and girls like Elaine Riddick.

Records show that in North Carolina out of the 7,000 sterilisations less than 500 took place with the clear consent of the patient. The vast majority were much more complicated.

State records, seen by Winston Salem Journal reporter John Railey, reveal cases where parents who were abusing their children would then agree to their sterilisation.

"You have a sick cycle. The father was committing incest and was given the right of consent for her sterilisation.

"The state is victimising the children who have already been victimised by their parents."

State records conservatively estimate that between 1943 and 1963, over 63,000 people were sterilised under the eugenics laws in America.

Apologies

Whilst five states, including North Carolina, have issued apologies for the sterilisations carried out under eugenics laws, the federal government has never acknowledged that any sterilisation abuses have ever taken place.

Paul Lombardo is professor of Law at Georgia State University and he has devoted himself to this issue for the past 27 years.

He believes that it is a shameful history, and one that needs to be openly recognised.

But at the moment that doesn't seem likely.

"I hear from time to time from women who have been sterilised against their will, the difficulty is documentation," he said.

"Even when there are records, when you ask them to come forward, being sterilised isn't something that people want to broadcast, so they stay hidden."

But until there is recognition that this happened, Elaine Riddick says today there is still no reason for other women to tell their stories.

"I can understand why they won't come forward, because they don't want their next door neighbour to know this happened. I felt same way. I have resentment - I will always have it for my Government.

"That's just how I feel. Angry. You took something away from me and you can never give it back."

Sterilised Nation is on Radio 4 at 1100 BST on Wed 23 May 2007 then online for seven days at Radio 4's Listen again page. The progamme is by All Out Productions.

Aint nothing wrong with being lazy.

Doctors should get payed more. We need them.

BAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAHAAAAAAAAAA omg, I thought I had heard it all. Nothing can even begin to touch the riduculousness of that statement. It must be so easy for women to take advantage of you.

Well she is gonna get her money either way from one of them so the jokes not on her ;)

Bush is guilty of treason.

hahahah yeah or maybe the men shouldn't be having unprotected sex with the same woman.

Deuteronomy 20:10-17 - When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. . . . This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.
However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.

How is this spam? I'd participate if I could make music for sure.

Ezekiel 25:17: The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the Valley of Darkness; for he is truly his brother's keeper, and the finder of lost children. And, I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers! And, you will know my name is The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee!

What a stupid quizz, everyone gets the same thing.

Seriously, why would a cashier at the SAQ make 17$ an hour? And then go on strike? THEY SCAN BOTTLES. Fuckign scum of society.

There's really no excuse for makign more than double the money you'd get anywhere else(plus havign full benefits, vacation etc..) and going on strike. At least if there is I can't imagine it right now.

UUUUMM The english people are not in support of the war at all.. they're fuckign pissed. Tony Blair is the one who sided with the americans which is what almost single-handedly got him from being one of englands most loved leaders to one of the most hated.

and what exactly is "liberal-media"? haha.

What do you mean? Is it gone or something?

Unix servers are harder to manage and if you don't know what you're doing or make a mistake you can just end up fucking yourself over even more.

Meh I think Paris is hot.. but I don't feel sorry for her at all that people make fun of her.. she put herself in that place, she likes it. I dunno other poeple told me she really is the way she is in the sex tape but I dunno if I can believe that.. she's totally acting, no one is THAT bimbo. So if someone is willing to project that airhead image of themselves to be talked about I really don't think you should worry about her man, she isn't worried, she's having a great time.

Heh.. I went to a cliquey school with 1,000 snobby kids, it just wouldn't have blown over. Plently a child spent their highscool years alone in the library for being short and having glasses. Nobody really cares if you're nice... being nice wasn't cool. Ratting people out for cheating was hardly a consideration.. never even heard of it happening.. there's no question that it would eliminate the possibility of having any friends in school. Hell even I would have made fun of someone who did that.. it's just too easy. Like those people who refuse to lend out their school supplies.. my payback for their greediness was drawing retarded comics of them to show my friends and laughing hysterically at them for the rest of my school years. Hell, I still make fun of the same damn kids 5 years later.

UUUUUUM In france where there is already more than a liiittle issue with rascism, I don't think anyone has any doubts as to what immigration reform means. If someone said it in Canada it might have an innocent meaning but in this place in time in france.. everyone knows exactly what it means.