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UN warns over Gaza economic woe
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Gaza could become completely dependant on aid within weeks because of economic damage caused by Israeli restrictions on border crossings, the UN has said.
All 600 garment factories in Gaza have closed, because they cannot import raw materials, a UN relief agency said.

And more than 90% of factories involved in the construction industry have shut down and laid off workers.

A senior official from the UN Relief and Works Agency called for the opening of the main crossing point into Gaza.

Unless restrictions are eased, the agency (Unrwa) said, Gaza may become "virtually 100% aid dependent".

Gaza today is isolated like never before. There is misery and fear on every single Palestinian face you see here

BBC's Matthew Price


Gaza a jail for its people

Filippo Grandi, the agency's deputy commissioner general, said in a statement: "I appeal to the Palestinian authorities, to Israel and all other parties to take immediate steps to open up the Karni Crossing, to imports and exports, as well as humanitarian goods...

"Only this will allow the little that remains of Gaza's economy to survive."

He added: "Gaza risks becoming a virtually 100% aid-dependent, closed down and isolated community within a matter of months, or even weeks, if the present regime of closures continues."

Economic woe

Israel has sealed off Gaza from the outside world since the takeover of Gaza by the radical Hamas group.



Hamas' charter calls for the destruction of the Jewish state and Israel says the restrictions are necessary for security reasons.

The Rafah border crossing, in the south of Gaza, is the only way in or out of the Palestinian territory that does not pass through Israel - although when it is open the Israeli authorities monitor traffic electronically.

The BBC's Matthew Price, in Gaza, says Gaza is sealed off, politically and economically.

It is now almost entirely dependent on aid, with practically everyone reliant on handouts provided by the United Nations, our correspondent says.

The Palestinian Shippers' Council estimates the total losses of the private sector since the closure of the Gaza border in mid-June are $35m (£17.3m), according to Unrwa's latest report on the humanitarian situation there.

Since 19 June, the average numbers of trucks carrying goods allowed through Gaza's crossings each day has fallen from 238 to 118 - with food supplies representing 89% of commercial goods transported into Gaza.

About 50% of the Gaza Power Plant's production capacity has been lost due to delays in maintenance of its turbines, Unrwa says.

I was curious so I found some caribean islands for you guys. 400,00 - 2 mill, not bad at all. Bad news is it looks like they're shrinking.

[ www.caribbeanislandbrokers.com ]

The guy forgot a zero, it's 25 million. Look in the text.

I heard that San Paulo was the place to go for nightlife.

Sao Paulo, whatever.

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hahaha oh and be careful of this:

In São Paulo, Know Your Club Lingo!--The word boate or boite used in Rio for a nightclub or dance club refers in São Paulo almost exclusively to a strip or sex club.

I see a crocodile video? I want the mini one.

NZ couple to name child Superman
By Phil Mercer
BBC News

A couple in New Zealand is planning to call their newborn son Superman after officials rejected their original choice of 4Real.

Pat and Sheena Wheaton have been frustrated by rules in New Zealand banning names that begin with a number.

Mum and Dad decided to call their son 4Real after seeing an ultrasound image of him. It was then they realised that their baby was "for real".

They are considering legal action to force officials to reverse the ruling.

Name game

The name might sound more like a comedian's catchphrase or a fruit juice, but the Wheatons were deadly serious.

Sadly for them, the authorities in New Zealand did not share their enthusiasm for the unusual - their choice was rejected by the country's registrar of births, deaths and marriages.

The rules state that first names starting with a number are not allowed.

The law also advises parents to avoid names that could cause their child to be teased or made fun of.

Undeterred, the Wheatons now plan to call their newborn son Superman, but have said they will refer to him as 4Real.

The baby's family argues that if people can be known as John Williams III, for example, then why can a number not be used at the beginning of a name?

Officials in New Zealand have been involved in similar disputes before.

In the past they have had to intervene to stop parents naming their offspring Satan and Adolf Hitler.

Overheating won't make your CPU go to 100%, it's the other way around. CPU being 100% will make it overheat..

It's not actually legal in the Netherlands. They just don't do anythign about it like in BC.

Amsterdamn versus a whole province, common.

He didn't say it used hyperthreading, he said hyperthreading is supported. Nice use of words!

but I dunno.. I have no clue what p4's go for now but normally for a good PC you'll spend more on the rest of the parts all added together than you do on the processor so it really depends on the parts and most of the time when you get a store bought PC they try to put as much shit parts in it as possible cause nobody knows they're shit parts.

I need a motherboard for a p4. If you can't sell your PC maybe I'll buy your motherboard if it's a good motherboard and for a low price.

Well it would be more like adding a "do not consume with marijuana" label to the medication bottle. I get what you mean though, you can just ask your doctor. Although I think your doctor should tell you without you even having to ask. It seems silly not to give warnings on somehting just because it's illegal. They know people still take it and they also know that there are probably very few madications that react weirdly to marijuana unlike alcohol which always has the warnings.

A sound card wouldn't normally be able to crash your compouter like that, especially if it was happeneing before with virus scanners. You're probably either running low on ram or processing power. Next time you're running the program press ctrl+alt+delete to view the memory/cpu usage while its running and then check again without the program running.

And your hard drive space won't make a big difference either, it's the RAM you,re concerned about.

Yeah they're finished, the last ones were on saturday.

Nice, that hotel is right across from Mont-Royale where the Tam-Tams are on sunday(during the day) :)

What makes them think that kids won't give jesus a gun?

There has to be something, what price range are you looking for?

and for what dates?

and for how many people? lol

This is a nice hotel in a nice location and the price isn't so bad when you consider this is for 4 people for 10 days. So if you're 4 people or less and are staying for 10 days or less they have availability.

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The definition for religion clearly states what it is and unless the definition of religion is somehow wrong it conflicts with the definition of atheism. You can't seem to understand the irony here at all. It's a gray area and it always was. Anyways I don't have time to argue with religious fanatics on any side of the fence.

Once again my opinion fits the definition as much as yours. I know what atheism is SUPPOSED to be which is what you keep trying to tell me and what I keep trying to tell you is that it isn't what it's SUPPOSED to be. I was not SUPPOSED to spill coffee all over my white shirt this morning but I did. I'm not changing the defintion because once again I REPEART the definition does not specify whether it's a religion, however the definition for religion does encompass atheism. You can say it's not a religion by the logic that it's not SUPPOSED to be but if you consider the defintiion for religion it becomes clear that it's just not what it's supposed to be. There are thinmgs liek that in life, don't get confused. There are two points of view that are both 100% valid. You resemble a religious person in the way that you don't want to accept anyone else's. And that sorta proves my point. You defend it like a christian defends creationism. I don't need to say a thing. This is boring now anyways.
I understood what you were saying before this thread even started, you just can't accept someone else's point of view. And when it comes to this definition yes there is room for a point of view because what we are arguing about is simply not defined. So repeat yourself if you want, it amounts to nothing.

It doesn't matter how many poeple's opinions you post they are still just opinions.

and I hope you're proud of grouping yourself with these people who are just so damned concerned with what everyone else is doing to the point where they have to write these long ass articles that no one except fellow atheists would care to read. They care so much about this atheist label that they actually have to defend it by claiming to simply be it and not have chosen it. Funny thing is that 99% of people who don't believe in god simoply say "I don't believe in god" and everyone knows exactly what they mean. How can anyone be so preoccupied with something and claim that it's as simple as not believing in god when that makes tham just like everyone else. If they simply don't believe in god than why don't they celebrate christmas? Most people who call themselves atheist probably do, just like how most poeple who call htemselves christians don't go to church. Liek with anythint there are extremists and non-extremist but just because you're not an extremist it doesn't change that some atheists are.

The difference between people who believe in santa claus and an atheist is the same as the difference between someone who doesn't believe in god and an atheist. Not believing in god doesn't make someone an atheist. If I were to call myself santitheist because I believed santa claus didn't exist than you could start comparing it with atheism although I'm being loose with that one since santa claus isn't even a religious figure.
Basically what all of your arguments are leaning towards is that atheism doesn't even exist. It is a word in the dictionary that when cross referenced with the definition for religion makes perfect sense as a religion as much as it doesn't. The fact you can't accept that doesn't change that it makes sense. You're just saying the same thign over and over again.

Why do you call yourself atheist? Why can't you just be yourself?

My parents weren't atheist and I had to go to church on christmas eve and I hated it just as much as everyone else but I'd much rather do that than not have any holidays at all. My friend has atheist parents so they don't celebrate any holidays, no christmas, no halloween, nothing except for new years. Which means she has to stay home with her family on new years while all her friends are out having fun. Why would anyone feel the need to boycott a holiday just because they don't believe in it? Who believes in it anyway? Like 1% of the poplation? Nobody fuckign believes in it in the first place they just wanna get drunk and eat food and take teh oppurtunity to be with their families who most people don't see often. There's not much better to do on christmas anyway, everything closed, everyones with their famileis. What about the children?

It's not me who's changing the definition. The definition doesn't say "it's a religion" or "it's not a relgion", that's what cross-referencing is for.

You're just getting yourselves confused with the irony of it.

English?

Every single religion started the same way? Which way was that?

The war that's going on in the world right now is about oil and money. Take away religion and there will still be war based on money. In fact, you see all these past wars as being based on religioon but I don't even see what are considered true religious wars as based on religion. It always happened for the exact same reaosn if you ask me and that's money.

That's simply not true. If religion didn't exist neither would atheism. The natural way for a human to be is to not believe in anything at all. An atheist believes in something. I never believed in god but I was never an atheist either. What was I then? Unnatural? Not believing in god doesn't necessarily make a person atheist, that's only one aspect of atheism. You can't get over this atheism as an absense thing.

You can fill black with red or any other colour you want and it won't reject the colour. It isn't a colour, it isn't anythig and so it can't reject. You can fill silence with music because silence also does not oppose music, it just is. You can't mix atheism with another religion though. An atheist person can't be christion because that would make them not atheist.

Yes I know, I already completely agreed with you on this. We are not born with a relgion. WE AREN'T BORN ATHEIST EITHER! Liek you said when were born its a blank slate. ATHEISM IS NOT A BLANK. SLATE. It's the belief that god doesn't exist. Are wwe born with the conviction that god does not exist? Most certainly not.

I do understand how someone can see it this way but I disagree. You can't say it isn't a spiritual belief when it's completely and totally based on spirituality.

And stop equaTING atheism with an absense. It isn't an abnsense of something I repeat.. NOT being spiritual is an absense of belief, atheism is a belief that god doesn't exist. It is not an absense. Black is an absense, silence is an absense, atheism is anything but an absemse, its a specific belief, something that non-relious peorple don't have.

somehtign that would not even need a name or definiton if it didnt exist.

LOL but people aren't born atheist either!! That's the whole point. There's a difference between not believing in god and being atheism. Being atheist mean you think that god doesn't exist and nobody should believe in any. Being non-relious is not having an opinion at all. Being not religious is the true lack of belief, atheism is not.

That's the same way I see it. The reason I consider atheism a religion but not a favourite author is because atheism is a spiritual belief. It claims to understand spirituality and the universe enough to say that there is in fact no god. In addition it has a moral to follow.

I do understand why one might say it's not a religion and I don't necessarily disagree but I'm hard pressed to see it this way myself.

That's an illogical comparison. Silence is equivalent to not being relious at all. Not allowing yourself to listen to music because you think it's bad for you, that's a better compariosn to atheism. It's not not listening to music, it's downright refusing to.

Also I consider atheism even more of a religion than some other philosophical relgions where one can argue and many believe that the deities are simple representation.

and which have no specific rules or practices.

Why is it dso hard for you people to diferentiate the idea of NOT BEING SOMETHING JUST BECAUSE YOU SIMPLY ARENT and not being something BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S WRONG.

If atheism isn't a religion than why do people follow it? Why do they give it a name? They don't just simply just not believe in a deity, they are specifically contrary to believing in deities. You can be against having deities without calling youself an atheist but as soon as you call yourself an atheist it means you're binding yourself to the practice of never believing in a god. Furthermore it is defeinitely a 'spiritual' belief since it claims to understand the spiritual nature of the world and the truth of the universe.

Screwhead.. It's as if you didnt even read that definition, read it again..

It says: A religion is a set of common beliefs and practices generally held by a group of people, often codified as prayer, ritual, and religious law.
Key word here is OFTEN. The only part of the sentence that counts as the definition is the part before the OFTEN: "A religion is a set of common beliefs and practices generally held by a group of people" - as in an atheist.

Then it says: Religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and mystic experience. Key words are ALSO ENCOMPASSES. There are probably plenty of books on atheism btw.. I find it hard to believe there aren't any and personal belief is definetly "encompassed" in atheism. I'll find you one if you can't find one yourself.

The term "religion" refers to both the personal practices related to communal faith and to group rituals and communication stemming from shared conviction.
This as far as I can tell means that any personal and or communcal practices/rituals and communication related to communal faith are reffered to as "religion". AKA: "It is my religion to wear no shoes". Whatever, that ones vague.

Religious belief usually relates to the existence, nature and worship of a deity or deities and divine involvement in the universe and human life.
Key word is USUALLY RELATES.

So all that taken into account the only pârt that matters in that definition is still "A religion is a set of common beliefs and practices generally held by a group of people".

A lack of religion or belief does not need to be defined or followed. I consider even agnosticism a relgion. If it wasn't why would it have a name? It doesn't matter what philosophy it's based on, they chose a specific philosophy to follow and they believe in it's certainty even if it's certainty is that of incertaincy itself. They bind themselves to that.

Nooo but the song is so funny! I think it's a little outside typical though, I think it's meant to be funny. Since it's japanese though people assume it's serious.

Ummm maybe the PSP version isn't gay but try the PS2 version and tell me that the intro/story sequences aren't a flaming fag fest. Mind you it's obviously done like that to be funny. Fuck I'll try to find a Youtube video of the intro okay, you've probably never seen anything this overexaggerated in your life.

There we go

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Haha, I love Katamari! Nobody has the guts to play it because it's so gay. But it's so fun!

hahaha the PSP version got a 4/10 on gamespot. That's ruthless. The only time I seen reviews that bad are for really obscure games. They didn't even bother reviewing the PC version though user reviews are mostly terrible and all the other systems got a 6 except for the DS version which got a 6.5. Seeing that it's transformers tons of people will buy it anyway.

The english and french both had huge empires and both invaded many countries. The english were more succesful to the envy of the french. Being less succesful doesn't make them more ethical by a long shot. And it definitely doesn't make someone any less materialistic. The only reason Quebec even exists is because france wanted money. That's the only reason they even found this place. To think the world would be less materialistic if it was run by french is just plain retarded. Congratulations.

The fireworks are on wednesday + saturday at 10:00. The last country to go was germany on wednesday, the last show is on saturday but it's the "Laronde" fireworks. I'm sure it'll still be good. You can see th fireworks from alot of places but the best place(that's free) I think for these ones is next to the bridge at papineau, a bit to the side so that you're almost in front of the ferris wheel. They're centred from there and you can see all the bottom ones even sitting.

And it's always nice to have a radio so you can listen to the music that goes with the fireworks. I dunno what station it is though.

+ I hope nobody mistook the german flag for an italian one.

Oh lol.. good point. That's probably the most famous place to eat in Montreal. I'm not a meat person! There's always a line-up at Shwart's. Oh and eating a fresh St-Viateur bagel is a must. We're famous for those too.

There's LaRonde and the international fireworks festival:
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[ www.internationaldesfeuxloto-quebec.com ]

For restaurants I can probably go on forever..Red Thai on St-Laurent is the best Thai place ever in my opinion although it is a little expensive it's worth it. For cheap Thai food Souvenirs de Bangkok on St-catherine is really good. Stay away from Thai Express at all costs euk. Eurodeli on st-laurent is always good for fast, cheap and yummy italian food. 3 Amigos has 99cent tacos on sunday but they're skimpy. They have really yummy other food like their burritos and quesedillas and mmm. La Iguana is really good for mexican too but more expensive. On Prince Arthur it's all bring your own wine places. Odaki on St-laurent has yummy all you can eat sushi which also includes all you can eat entrées, good entrées. Soga is good for cheap and yummy japanese/chinese/thai food. Tons of really good chinese and vietnamese restaurants in chinatown and most are cheap. Fruit Folie on St-denis is really cheap for what you get. Really good pasta and sandwich dishes. Also La Popessa almost right next to it is good for pasta, they make it right in front of you, sometimes they even toss it and do tricks. It's cheap too. I'll just end there, I dunno what you like to eat. I'm sure all these places will pop into my head when I'm done posting too.

Santropol on Duluth!

I have a friend who does it at her house. She's been doing it for a few years and is a really good artist. If you want her contact message me.

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they say a toda madre is an expression that means to all mothers but denotes something really positive. a toda madre + esta. it's really cool?
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