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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FUCKERS replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 12:43pm |
Originally Posted By R.C.A
I don't think you should turn a blind eye when people do stupid things I dont think you should blind ppl by posting stupid pics lilke that! hehe <3 | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» R.C.A replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 12:52pm |
Originally Posted By MUERTESITA
I dont think you should blind ppl by posting stupid pics lilke that! hehe <3 Hahhaha <3 You love it. You're the plurist motherfucker I know! | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 1:00pm |
One thing I find disturbing is that most optimists think that cynics despise everything 24/7. That's not very positive.
I think it's pretty damn stupid to assume that people who are critically inclined spend all of their waking moments thinking of negative things to say about everything. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FUCKERS replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 1:00pm |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 1:09pm |
Originally Posted By KEVIN_FLYNN
One thing I find disturbing is that most optimists think that cynics despise everything 24/7. That's not very positive. I think it's pretty damn stupid to assume that people who are critically inclined spend all of their waking moments thinking of negative things to say about everything. On [ rave.ca ] that's 99.9% true. :S And I'm a cynic, so that optimist thing doesn't apply. If there's something good going on, something positive, and someone makes a post about it here, there'll be one of us going apeshit with multiple posts explaining how the person is only deluding him/herself and is full of shit. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 1:45pm |
Perhaps but is it safe to say that 99% of people here are unable to appreciate the finer things in life ?
Cynics are quickly pegged as negative nancys on a whim when, in fact, cynics are usually neutral by nature. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 1:49pm |
IMO cynics aren't fun to be around. Their such johnny and debbie downers. In annoying. Most of the time I think theyre too scared and weak to give themselves any hope for the fear of being let down. Its like the guy who doesnt ask of girls cuz he cant handle teh rejection. Or watching the habs with someone who can't let himself believe because he doesnt want to be let down.
The unconditional optimist isnt much fun either - they come off as irritating, peppy and stupid. Capitalism inst perfect, and it doesnt work unconditionally. When the scores 5-1 with 5 minutes left, I think you can go home. When the world hasnt intervened in darfur, even after the atrocities in rwanda and bosnia, don't tell me that the UN still works or you have faith in our global political system. When you see a leader like Chavez or Amademijad, dont say that he might be different, might be a socialist that understands how to make life better for his people. However, that said, people who are naturally optimistic, and can see the lighter side of life and the silver linings, but can still be pragmatic... now those people make the best gfs and the chillest friends. Someone who can see that the Habs struggles means theyre going to end up with 2 franchise goalies instead of one. Someone who can see that Mike Keenan might have been a shitty coach, but means that the new flames coach inherited the best physically conditioned team in the league. Someone who can see that globalization and capitalism tends to reduce armed conflict by making us interdependant on each other, and that capitalization does tend to improve living standards. Someone who sees that South Africa, Tanzania, Botswana, and Gabon as beacons of hope in Africa. And somone who sees Warren Buffet and Bill Gates as hope that even the worst of the worst side-effects of capitalism might not be so bad after all and that people do care about more than just themselves. And of course someone who sees that the republican support base is shrinking, and that their only hope of surviving is to stop campaigning on Abortion and Gay Marraige and to start campaigning on small government, fiscal conservitism, and libertarianism. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 1:50pm |
True but it's also true that pessimists will often (erroneously) refer to themselves as cynics. There's a few here I would easily brand pessimists who believe themselves to be otherwise :P But I digress. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 1:52pm |
Originally Posted By DRNYARLATHOTEP
True but it's also true that pessimists will often (erroneously) refer to themselves as cynics. There's a few here I would easily brand pessimists who believe themselves to be otherwise :P But I digress. wuts the difference btwn cynicism and pessimism. I always thought the two usually went hand in hand. Kinda like hiv aids | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» R.C.A replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 2:14pm |
The unconditional optimist isnt much fun either - they come off as irritating, peppy and stupid.
Just for the record, I'm not an uncondition optimist, I just try to see the bright side in things...life is about balance and each situation has two sides. It doesn't mean I ignore or accept things that are shitty or unjust. I hope I don't come off as peppy and stupid. /self concious post. lol | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 2:28pm |
Originally Posted By GAMOS
wuts the difference btwn cynicism and pessimism. I always thought the two usually went hand in hand. Kinda like hiv aids Cynicism is a distrust of society/social values being openly shown. Cynicism is frustration versus blatant societal hypocrisy. Sure, it has negative aspects but not entirely so. Pessimism is the notion that "everything that can go wrong, will most likely go wrong". It's not limited to the view one has towards others but also towards himself and pretty much everything in between. I know, they seem similar. But there are differences :) | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sabinonstop replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 5:30pm |
Originally Posted By KEVIN_FLYNN
One thing I find disturbing is that most optimists think that cynics despise everything 24/7. That's not very positive. I think it's pretty damn stupid to assume that people who are critically inclined spend all of their waking moments thinking of negative things to say about everything. Same thing for wanna be optimists like me,i find it fukin hard to be positive a lot of the time,but i always think of the famous monthy python quote "always look on the brightside of life". Another motivation is i don't want the machine to get more win,keeping people oppressed and bitching at each other that's what they want. respect and unity between all free-spirits,artists...ect is the only(sic) way 2 bring peace! But i'm no hippy either,i accept the aggressivity i have using A Marilyn Manson poster as a shooting target ;) | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 5:38pm |
yeah, a cynic is not the opposite of an optimist. a cynic is just too based in reality to be extremely optimistic, that doesn't mean we complain all the time and can't have fun. doesn't mean we don't hope for the best...
and i'm really sick of ppl who think that the only way to succeed in life is ultra-positivism ... to clarify, here's how i was first explained the concept of pessimist vs.optimist: 2 ppl are put into 2 separate rooms. the rooms are filled with shit, and the 2 ppl are given nothing but a shovel. after a few hours the scientists running the study observe the pessimist in his room, he's just standing there and he turns to them saying "wtf? i'm not gonna spend all day tossing shit around! this is pointless!" ... so then the scientists check the 2nd room, with the optimist in it and see him whistling and smiling, shoveling shit. they ask him "why do you seem so happy digging in a room full of crap?" and so the optimist responds: "well, with all this shit around, i'm sure there's gotta a pony in here somewhere!". | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Psyborg replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 6:41pm |
Originally Posted By ZOMBIE8MYBRAIN
and i'm really sick of ppl who think that the only way to succeed in life is ultra-positivism ... It helps though! Ex: if someone starts a project and has some difficulty along the road, if they are optimistic they'll still believe in themselves and that they can get over it so they'll try to find a solution. Pessimistics would tell themselves it's too hard, they'll never make it and eventually give up. Positivism alone doesn't bring success, but it could be one of the elements of success. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 6:52pm |
i think you're just supposed to live. if i believe i can do something, it's 'cause i want to. if it succeeds, then great! if it doesn't, then too bad.. next!
pessimism & optimism don't really exist. like saying this person always smiles, and that person never smiles. it ain't true! some ppl have a real shitty defeatist attitude, and some ppl are just coasting on blissful ignorance, but that's just how they live. forget being positive or negative, just be. i have a right to be unhappy, and i have a right to laugh.. neither one of those things is constant, and neither one is easily controllable. things happen.. good, bad, neutral.. who gives a fuck? | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Psyborg replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 7:24pm |
Of course being optimistic doesn't prevent someone from feeling bad! Shit happens to all of us. I always say there's 2 things in life, what happens and how we see it. The main difference is that optimism prevents bad stuff to become overwhelming. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» LeChat replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 7:38pm |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 8:42pm |
Originally Posted By ARMANI
... The main difference is that optimism prevents bad stuff to become overwhelming. ah .. i always thought that was just willpower :p | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Mon Oct 12, 2009 @ 8:59pm |
To me here's cynicism : rich getting richer mean the poor getting poorer, living on credit is slaving yourself, inaction means consent, ... | |
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