New Metro/bus Strike On The Way
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 3:51pm |
 Coolness: 153140 | bump ti bump, lets burn their bus depot! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 3:54pm |
 Coolness: 92400 | The bus strike doesn't affect me. I actually do care how much they make. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 4:00pm |
 Coolness: 106250 | The average income for a non-elderly male in Canada after taxes is 29900$/year. You can do the math if you like but after taxes, thats...about 50k.
[ www40.statcan.ca ] "repair/maintenance services COMPLETELY SUCKS" The busses and metro's in Mtl are all about 35 years old. you kow how it is with old vehecules, they have to be fixed more often. I'm woundering why you say that repair/maintenance suck? Seems to me like the public transit system is pretty reliable, in general. I wouldnt say they offer No services, last time i checked, they were on 9hrs out of about 20 Update » databoy wrote on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 4:05pm I have been around a little bit longer than most of you though. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Smurf replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 4:39pm |
 Coolness: 43135 | I dont live on the plateau for its trendyness, i have lived here for a long time, and it does fit in with my way of life. I have lived here so long i dont pay crazy prices for my rent.
The service is fairly reliable but not as reliable it should be, every day there is line that goes down for X amount of time. I've been using it mostly every weekday for 15 years and i've been stuck waiting for stuck doors or other maintenance issues more times than i can remember You cant know if you have been around longer than most of us. You need to compare the average income stats with the average education etc. You also have to add to that the benefits. remember they make 70k a year with all the benefits. The average male that makes the 29900 doesnt make 20k of benefits. anyways, nothing will convince you, but i'm not alone in saying they are overpaid, yet you are alone saying they are underpaid. Not that when more ppl think something is right or true it makes it right or true... but... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 4:48pm |
| Coolness: 106250 | If all together you determine that 50K is to much for a middle class job, well i guess thats the world you'll end up living in.
"You cant know if you have been around longer than most of us." What exactly cant i know? Update » databoy wrote on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 4:53pm The stat i was refering to do not hold into account the benefits. If it did, the average would go up as well. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 4:58pm |
| Coolness: 92400 | but it's not supposed to be a middle class job. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 5:04pm |
| Coolness: 106250 | Yes it is, it always has |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Raius replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 5:28pm |
 Coolness: 38320 | Your data is flawed, to begin with you can't use Canada's stats to make a claim about Quebec, Quebec has a much lower average income compared to different provinces. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Niji replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 5:52pm |
 Coolness: 70350 | à Databoy
Pour citer le grand prophète Tao Nhan (!): Les gens qui habitent près de leur boulot sont généralement des gens qui n'ont pas de vie. Toujours à Databoy: On se bat pas contre les gens qui gagnent plus que nous. On se bat contre les gens qui exercent leurs moyens de pression sur les gens qui gagnent généralement moins qu'eux. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 6:30pm |
| Coolness: 106250 | Originally Posted By NEIJYA
� Databoy Pour citer le grand proph�te Tao Nhan (!): Les gens qui habitent pr�s de leur boulot sont g�n�ralement des gens qui n'ont pas de vie. Scuse, j'ai oublier qu'il fallait perdre minumum une hrs par jour en transport pour etre cool. Au fait, j'serais surpris si une seule personne ici ait pris une demarce coherant pour protester la greve. (tagger les metros ca change fuckall a part couter plus cher en frait de netoyage) Si vous voulez vous offusqué pour quelque chose d'autre que ce derangement temporaire, ya toujours la polarisation des revenue au Canada. C'est peut etre moins apparents au Quebec a cause des syndicats mais c'est un reel probleme qui risque de nous suivrent pour un bon bout de temps si rien est fait. Cest un probleme qui est a la base de biens des problemes, incluant celui des transports en communs. Pour plus d'info: [ www.ccsd.ca ] Update » databoy wrote on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 6:55pm Elsewhere,
New York, decembre 27th 2005, the public transit workers whent on strike for 60 hrs. What they received was a 3% raise the first year, a 4% raise the second year, and a 3.5% raise the third year. The average salary of a public transit worker after the strike was: Bus or Subway Operator US$63,000, Subway Conductor US$54,000, Station Agent US$51,000,Cleaner US$40,000. For an average of us$52,000. Eh, thats in U.S. Dollars, of course. [ en.wikipedia.org ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Niji replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 6:40pm |
| Coolness: 70350 | Ouais, c'est important être cool !
Non, mais plus sérieusement, pour pouvoir regrouper autant d'emplois au centre-ville, je crois que l'espace habitable a du y être sacrifié quelques peu. À moins de changements majeurs, c'est pas très réaliste de dire qu'on devrait tous rester proche de nos jobs (avec un peu de chance, on va être de plus en plus nombreux à pouvoir travailler à distance et alors là, ceux qui ont la discipline de fonctionner ainsi pourront se passer complètement de se taper 1hr+ de transport à chaque jour. d'ici-là, j'essaie d'utiliser le métro de manière constructive, genre lecture etc. des choses que je fais pas nécessairement à la maison mais que je devrais faire plus). Du reste, on sait bien qu'on réagit jamais à ce qui vient pas nous déranger dans notre petit quotidien confortable... (Pour être honnête, cette grève m'affecte très peu, je dirais même pas du tout. C'est le principe qui me fait chier. La dernière grève m'a quand même plus affectée, mais j'ai trouvé ça quand même relativement cool. Unis dans le malheur, dans le genre.) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 7:15pm |
| Coolness: 106250 | Il est evident qu'il serait imposible de faire vivre la rive sud et Laval au complet sur l'isle de Montreal. Mais si tu vie et que tu travail deja a Montreal, il n'est generalement pas tres complex de se relocaliser pres de ton lieux de travail, si tu a une certaine stabilité d'emploie, bien sur. C'est infiniment plus economique et ecologique de le faire.
Ca a toujours été les grandes tragedies qui ont fait evolué les humains. J'gage que cette greve aura plusieurs effets benifiques. Biens des gents prendrons gout au vélo, d'autre incluerons le co-voiturage dans leurs routines journalieres. Entk, ca force tout le monde a se démerdé et de sortir de leurs routines, ce qui pour biens du monde fera un tres grand bien. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 7:23pm |
| Coolness: 153140 | Cleaner US$40,000
et le metro de new york, a combien de station, combien de monde transige dans ce metro au moin 50 fois plus que celui de mtl .... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 7:46pm |
| Coolness: 106250 | Bin oui mais sont plus pour faire la job... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Niji replied on Thu May 24, 2007 @ 11:34pm |
| Coolness: 70350 | Originally Posted By DATABOYJ'GAGE QUE CETTE GREVE AURA PLUSIEURS EFFETS BENIFIQUES.
15 grèves en 40 ans... Peut-être que 15 est le vrai numéro magique, qui sait ! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 8:12am |
 Coolness: 102900 | Ummm.. Hello you comparing NYC transic workers to Montreal's??
" the New York urban area (18.7 million people) had a total GDP of $1,133 billion in 2005 " I will say it again, this is extortion, and the government will/or should step in soon. Update » Trey wrote on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 8:13am People here aren't bitching about Unions. We are bitching the maintenance workers using the Union as a leverage tool and going on strike. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Niji replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 10:36am |
| Coolness: 70350 | Originally Posted By TREY PEOPLE HERE AREN'T BITCHING ABOUT UNIONS. WE ARE BITCHING THE MAINTENANCE WORKERS USING THE UNION AS A LEVERAGE TOOL AND GOING ON STRIKE.
Well, I, for one, is bitching about what unions have become. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Raius replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 10:53am |
| Coolness: 38320 | Posting figures about salaries in other countries, provinces don't prove any points. The only relevant data is the average salaries of people in Quebec. Also the average also includes the people who make multi million dollars, a better example would be the median salary of workers in Quebec.
If you and nine friends are at a party who make 30000 a year each and someone who walks in make 10 million a year the average income in the room is now 1027000, the median is 30000. So you could claim hey the average income is over a million bucks when in reality you and your nine friends are still just scraping by. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 11:05am |
| Coolness: 106250 | Originally Posted By TREY
I will say it again, this is extortion, and the government will/or should step in soon. Wheres Maurice Duplessis when you nead him. Update » databoy wrote on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 11:18am If youm scrol down to the bottom you will find a comparative chart showing the average salary of a stm worker vs. the same worker in the private sector. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Fri May 25, 2007 @ 11:09am |
 Coolness: 226410 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY TREY I WILL SAY IT AGAIN, THIS IS EXTORTION, AND THE GOVERNMENT WILL/OR SHOULD STEP IN SOON. WHERES MAURICE DUPLESSIS WHEN YOU NEAD HIM. Osti que ca sent le syndicaliste inflexible... |
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