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Is Lsd Back ?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» thehemeraproject replied on Sat Feb 26, 2005 @ 7:42am
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"5-MeO-AMT is different from LSD in that the former is shorter-lasting and frequently causes nausea/vomiting."

Well the batch of LSD I got my hands on never caused vomiting, nausea to anyone who took a hit of it. I know someone who took a Bible (10 hits), he described the trip as "slighty" trippier and much longer (22 hours). One hit usually lasts 8 hours, with a few hours of "after-trip". I

So do you guys think that there is actual LSD in Montreal, or it's just a mix of other acids ? I don't have a clue if this is the real thing, and I wouldn't to advice more people to take some if it's not LSD.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Sun Feb 27, 2005 @ 4:19am
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^^ Please clarify what these "other acids" are and provide links to substantiate their existence. Because I have never found any reputable source that says they exist, and the people you meet who insist that "acid" isn't LSD are the same people who claim ecstasy is rat poison that will make your spinal cord bleed.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Sun Feb 27, 2005 @ 3:25pm
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Mar 18, 2005 @ 11:36am
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Originally posted by G-DRAMA...

dont wanna bust anyone's bubble ...
but its always been there ...
the blothers i mean ..
and its mainly 2cb and a bit of pcp on it
unless u got good connections ...really good ..

if u find any liquid stuff; then it is the stuff, dont hesitate, take it
if not ...well try and see i guess ..


i dont wanna burst YOUR buuble there G, but you cant put enough pcp on a blotter to get high. and 2Cb is quite a bit more rare than LSD and more expensive to manufacture than LSD so it doesnt logically figure that peeps would be selling 2CB blotters for the price of LSD and also CLAIM it's LSD. ditto on the whole arsenic-on-blotter as well. total bullshit.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Tue Mar 22, 2005 @ 10:50am
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skintracker mda is NOT e. e is mdma.
mdma means methylenedioxyMETHamphetamine.
mda means methylenedioxyamphetamine.
different chemical structures ergo different substances.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Tue Mar 22, 2005 @ 12:48pm
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- dont wanna burst YOUR buuble there G, but you cant put enough pcp on a blotter to get high. and 2Cb is quite a bit more rare than LSD and more expensive to manufacture than LSD so it doesnt logically figure that peeps would be selling 2CB blotters for the price of LSD and also CLAIM it's LSD. ditto on the whole arsenic-on-blotter as well. total bullshit. - Morphine

word on the scientific info Morphine
whatever they put on it, sometimes it clearly aint l.s.d
i mean when u get that weird metallic tooth feeling and some kind of an invisible metal crown squeezing your brain, and u can fall asleep 3-4 hours past dropping the hits .(numerous...), that aint lucy in the sky with diamonds..

well i'm glad if there still is some around, long live, i'm not the one who's gonna complain...but still i prefer trusting liquid when it comes by ...with safe sources ....know what i mean ...dont mess with the elements

anyways, i trust you in your info, Poisoned Candy as well big time (Hi Dan :)), and if u got the real stuff and wanna share and convince me well gimme a holla ...
i aint a hater ...
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Tue Mar 22, 2005 @ 3:44pm
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QUOTE - "Ecstasy is MDMA (3,4-Methylenedioxymethamphetamine. It belongs to a family of drugs called “entactogens”, which literally means “touching within”. Other drugs in this category include MDA, MDE and MBDB."

QUOTE - "These days, the term "ecstasy" is used to describe just about anything sold in pill form at raves with a logo on it. Traditionally it was used to describe the chemical MDMA, which was often sold in the form of logo-bearing tablets. But as MDMA was made illegal in the mid-1980's and the demand for it increased, many different substances started to be packaged in this same form ... all of them still called "ecstasy"."

Based on what i've interpreted from the sites I research on such as Erowid etc. My understanding is that "Ecstasy" is a blanket name used to disguise the contents of a pill beings sold by someone without enough experience to educate their clients to the differences between chemicals in the family.

Here is the list of names specifically used for MDMA:

MDMA
MDM (older references)
N-methyl-MDA
3,4-methylenedioxymethamphetamine
N-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyamphetamine
N-methyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenylisopropylamine
N,alpha-dimethyl-3,4-methylenedioxyphenethylamine (Pre-1972, Chem Abs.)
N,alpha-dimethyl-1,3-benzodioxole-5-ethanamide (Current, Chem Abs.)
N,alpha-dimethyl-homopiperonylamine (Archaic, Chem Abs.)
N-methyl-1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-propanamine (occasionally)
2-methylamino-1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-propane (uncommon)
N-methyl-beta-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-isopropylamine (uncommon)
N,alpha-dimethyl-beta-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-ethylamine (uncommon)
EA-1475 (Edgewood Arsenal)
DEA Control #7287: MDMA HCl (racemic)
DEA Control #7405: MDMA
DEA Control #7406: MDMA (racemic)
Chem Abs: [66142-89-0] S-(+)-MDMA
Chem Abs: [69558-32-3] S-(+)-MDMA HCl
Chem Abs: [81262-70-6] R-(-)-MDMA
Chem Abs: [69558-31-2] R-(-)-MDMA HCl
Chem Abs: [69610-10-2] MDMA (racemic)
Chem Abs: [64057-70-1] MDMA HCl (racemic)

MDA, MDMA, MDE, MBDB and MMDA can all be roughly grouped together as a class. It is especially important to be familiar with MDA, MDE and MDMA and what effects distinguish them since these chemicals often show up on the market.

Considering MDMA the prototype, then MDA tends to be more psychedelic with more of a tendency to induce visual hallucinations. MDA is also more 'speedy' with more jaw-clenching and other side-effects. MDA also takes about 1.5 times as long to hit and to come down off of as MDMA. MDE has a similar chronology to MDMA (perhaps shorter), but is somewhat more stoning than MDMA, but has equal or less side-effects as MDMA. MDE may be responsible for the "Heroin in Ecstasy" myths that abound. MBDB seems to be the closest in effects to MDMA, however it does not appear often on the illegal market (particularly outside of amsterdam). MMDA seems to be similar to MDA in that it produces stronger visual hallucinations than MDMA, however MMDA seems to be totally unknown on the illegal market.

It is common when buying MDMA to get a combination of any of the following : MDMA, MDA, MDE, Caffeine, Dextromethorphan, Ephedrine, Glyceryl guaiacolate, and phenylpropanolamine. A chemical analysis of a variety of "hits" of MDMA found from 0 - 100 mg of MDMA as well as a variety of the above substances. Trying to calculate dosages from tablets containing unknown quantities of MDMA can be difficult, but a good quality tablet of street ecstasy generally contains an average of between 75 and 100 mg MDMA.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Wed Mar 23, 2005 @ 1:46am
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Originally posted by MORPHINE...

Originally posted by G-Drama...

dont wanna bust anyone's bubble ...
but its always been there ...
the blothers i mean ..
and its mainly 2cb and a bit of pcp on it
unless u got good connections ...really good ..

if u find any liquid stuff; then it is the stuff, dont hesitate, take it
if not ...well try and see i guess ..


i dont wanna burst YOUR buuble there G, but you cant put enough pcp on a blotter to get high. and 2Cb is quite a bit more rare than LSD and more expensive to manufacture than LSD so it doesnt logically figure that peeps would be selling 2CB blotters for the price of LSD and also CLAIM it's LSD. ditto on the whole arsenic-on-blotter as well. total bullshit.


Even if 2CB is cheaper to manufacture, it is still so incredibly cheap that nobody would care about spending 2 cents making a hit instead of one. Especially if they don`t wanna spend the rest of their life in prison on manslaughter charges instead of a lousy couple of months. Until very recently 2CB wasn`t illegal, and now that is it, I`m sure the penalty for selling it is not anywhere near as bad as for sellign LSD. I remember buying 2CB (Nexus) pills at Berri, five years ago, for 5$ a pill. I`m pretty sure they charged more then that for acid even if they would have made money selling it for 10 cents.

``i dont wanna burst YOUR buuble there G, but you cant put enough pcp on a blotter to get high.``
You don`t need to put 10mg`s on the paper for it to have an effect. There is also no issue with fitting. You can put a drop of one chemical and then put a drop of another right on top of it and they will still both take effect, even if the paper is over-saturated.

If you look up blotter on Erowid obviously they are gonna tell you what`s supposed to be on blotter, that doesn`t mean it will be on the blotter. They figure people know that there are dishonest poeple in this world. When you look up mescaline, they don`t say ``term also used for cut pcp``.

You can believe what you want but if you don`t wanna believe there`s better stuff out there, you`re the only one who`s missing out. The only way to know is to experience the difference first hand. So you shoudl trust the poeple who have!
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Wed Mar 23, 2005 @ 6:51pm
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thanks for helpin' Sophia
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Thu Mar 24, 2005 @ 10:32am
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Actualy... your the ones missing out...
I've done both liquid and blotters.
Trip isn't as strong, but I'm still happy with my blotty.

And Seb, that metal crown your wearing...
have you considered that you might have taken acid at the wrong moment.
You had a headache, you weren't at peace with your self, wrong ppl around you...
acid exagerates your perceptions... if you were wearing that metal crown like I know you usualy wear... You might just have had a bad trip on acid.

Pure LSD won't make you automatically drop into heaven. You have to be heading there.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Thu Mar 24, 2005 @ 10:44am
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-And Seb, that metal crown your wearing...
have you considered that you might have taken acid at the wrong moment.
You had a headache, you weren't at peace with your self, wrong ppl around you...
acid exagerates your perceptions... if you were wearing that metal crown like I know you usualy wear... You might just have had a bad trip on acid.- Pro-Pain

hey bro thanks but i'm totally aware of this ..the setups and stuff ..
sure a l.s.d trip can be as much hell and heaven ..no doubt ..
that is not what i'm talking about ..
its a physical symptom i always have when dropping non-lsd blotters ...
2cb-nexus whatever they call it ...the stuff is no good ..
had great times anyways, but its nothing compared to lucy in the sky with diamonds .

i'd say there's both possibilities ..
i mean a couple trustable friends (including u) and telling me about how good are there blothers ..and its peeps who did liquid pure stuff 2 before ..and they all agree its the same ..
so i guess, YES there is some blotters which contains l.s.d
but we cant deny there's nexus out there also ..

its all about your hookup, thats all u can trust really

by the way we HAVE to trip sometime this summer, or before ...just need minimum 24 hours available ..so much inner stuff to deal with ...its gwanna be scary ..havent been deep in there for a while ...but i aint scared ...
i had my bunch of badtrips, and in the end it was fun
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Thu Mar 24, 2005 @ 10:53am
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Tellement mon gars. Ça risque d'être Éclipse big time.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Thu Mar 24, 2005 @ 10:57am
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ça sent bon ça
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Thu Mar 24, 2005 @ 1:05pm
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ça sent le sapin, le pétard,
la petite vache qui a mal à patte.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Thu Mar 24, 2005 @ 1:35pm
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:lol

ça sent le printemps
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Thu Mar 24, 2005 @ 1:57pm
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No shit eh. Dog poo al over the friggin place.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Thu Mar 24, 2005 @ 5:01pm
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yah gross
Montreal's getting as much a giant garbage can as France can and other spots can be
this is bad
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PoiSoNeD_CaNdY replied on Fri Mar 25, 2005 @ 4:35am
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"I remember buying 2CB (Nexus) pills at Berri, five years ago, for 5$ a pill. I`m pretty sure they charged more then that for acid even if they would have made money selling it for 10 cents."

I beleive that you could have bought 2c-b pills, but theres no way 2c-b could be put on a blotter. A dose of 2c-b is around 15 milligrams, which could never fit on a blotter.

I've never tried 2c-b and would like to, so it certainly wouldn't be a dispointment to find some, even in leiu of acid!

Another point to consider: acid can really play tricks on your perceptions, and often your expectations regarding the trip can and will actually influence the trip itself. So if you take a blotter containing LSD but you beleive it might be something else, you might focus your attention on any uncomfortable effects, and by consequence, magnify them. Its a classic example of a self-fulfilling prophecy. You could have taken the best, most pure blotter in the world, but if you beleive its shitty, the trip WILL be shitty.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri Mar 25, 2005 @ 6:48am
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yeah but I`ve taken enough acid and PCP to know when there`s PCP in my acid. The feelign is unmistakable even when it`s mixed. I`m good at differentiating drugs. but I don`t think I ever got acid that was 2CB, even though i`m not well aquainted enough with 2cb to be sure. LSD is supposed to be made with morning glory as well as ergot, I think I heard a while ago from a more or less unreliable source that they leave out one of those ingredients. For all I know that might not even be possible. I do know that ergot can get get you fucked up and hallucinating without the morning glory, and the active ingredient can most probably be extracted as a liquid but who knows.
Then again I think ergot is harder to obtain because it is a mold that grows on rye plants. So I guess you`d have to have a pretty large field of rye in order to get enough fungus. So it`s not like any random person can go and make LSD. ur gonna need some land and shit.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Fri Mar 25, 2005 @ 6:49am
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if you wanan sell it that is
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