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| The movie was rated R for "violent and disturbing images and for language".
I'd have to agree with the violent and disturbing images department, especially for stuff like showing the American treatment of Iraqi prisoners, which I believe this film does show. |
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| yeah.. A) there was no bad language other than bashing bush. B) the disurbing images were rotting/burning corpses in iraq.. |
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| really powerful movie...hard to watch at times. |
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| really packed movie.. we sold out all 10 shows yesterday. |
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| Woow, you make it sound like an event. |
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| I'm gonna see it tonight...
And if its sold out when i get to the theater i'll beat someone up for their ticket. |
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| they added 2 more shows at 12:30am, they're already selling out.. :P |
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| I just saw it tonight...theater was full...people had to seperate from their friends because there were a few single seats left!
I enjoyed the movie...even though some might think Moore is slanted and doesn't tell the whole truth ( and hey, they might be right ) ...I think everyone has to admit that he packages and edits a movie in a very effective way
he is a gifted film writer and director...
movie has a huge impact and is hard to watch at some points |
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| going to see it tomorrow |
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| What makes this movie successful is its ability to ignite conversation. While Michael Moore is often pegged as a bleeding heart liberal living on the Upper West Side (and I am not disputing), he is a documentor. And every good documentor, like every good photographer, grasps her/his world within a lens. And MM's lens is bleeding liberalism. So, grain of salt, folks...but its about time a documentary recieved this type of encompassing publicity. |
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| Michael Moore isn't a brilliant documentary maker. He obviously has an agenda, therefore he is the latest and hippest propaganda artist and is a genius at using the current strength and influence of media as his own weapon. The way he litigates and publicly fights only increases public curiosity and provides advertising that Moore doesn't have to pay for. When Disney tried to block the film because Eisner is a hard core republican and didn't want to piss off his old golfing buddy Bush, the dumb bastard couldn't get his head out his ass far enough to see what Moore was doing: Creating the best advertising media storm possible.
Moore may be the first independant to declare war on an administration and sway an entire election. Gallop has already reported, for the first time, that America's support for the Iraq war is dying (54% against say Iraq was a full-on mistake). The election is already set to be a nail-biter, with Bush losing ground every day. By making Moore a pop-culture icon representing those that would like to tell the admin to fuck off will not get older voters to change, but he will get younger voters to actually vote in the US cuz all of a sudden this fat-ass bad-ass is chilling with the other celebs that take his POV. He's like Kevin Smith, Ralph Nader, and Jackass all rolled into one. Very marketable... |
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| Bah, you wanna see a biased movie that tries to come off as unbiased go see "The Corporation".
At least michael moore didn't go under that cover trying to pretend to be unbiased.. he went in saying "i want as many people to see this so bush doesn't get re-elected". |
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| I love how everyone says 'Documentaries don't have biases'. That's rediculous. Of course they do. There are two sides or more to every story, a documentary picks a viewpoint and presents it. |
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| exactly |
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| That may be the truth in what we see in documentaries today, but that is a function of the capitalist media's influence on the commercial side of documentary production.
The truth is, the documentary is an essay on film, and an essay has to set out to answer a question in the form of a thesis. The thesis can only be supported, but instead of quoting sources they use video. Theoretically a documentary should seek truth and be only as biased as any essay, and be judged on the merits of the arguments it presents in support of it's view. Truth is its own motive, and it will be distorted and compromised if the motivation is shared with an agenda, such as political objectives or finance. And truth isn't always profitable.
While it may stand to reason the if a picture is worth a thousand words, then video is worth a million, the downside of the medium is that video holds so many pschological cues and is still fundamentally limited to one person's vantage point (camera) so it is more susceptible to misrepresentation and abuse. Throw in a soundtrack, narrator, and some clever editing and you can lead an audience like Spielberg. |
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| which is why i disliked 'the corporation'.. it's thesis was: "Corporations are evil/bad". but they don't really tell you that untill 2/3 of the way through the 3 hour movie.. |
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| Just got back from this. I think people will get a lot of debate from whether or not this movie is well done, factual, or justified, but one thing is certain: It's a brutally powerful message (I don't think I'm ruining the message for you when I tell you it is "Fuck You Bush. And fuck your friends"). Given who the target market is for this kind of movie (and judging by the effect of Bowling in pop culture) this picture is Bush's PR nightmare. This is a lot like David v. Goliath and David just got Goliath in the nuts.
I agree about the Corporation, but it is a canadian film! Of course it'll be rough. I saw "stupidity" and felt it was a little rough building arguments effectively. The only documentaries we should be producing up here is mocumentaries like FUBAR, Best in Show, and Trailer Park Boys! We're gifted at it! |
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| stupidity was entertaining though, the corp was just propaganda, and boring to boot.
factually i think all that was said in F9/11 was for the most part true, i've been reading from several sources that F9/11 is all true, but there was a bit of creative editing that twists things around a bit.. |
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| hahaha.
There were SOOO many people at the amc tonight trying to get tickets for it, at 10:00pm on a sunday!
I've never seen the amc like that ever. |
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