Originally Posted By A_X_CELL

Originally Posted By KKRIX
Oh and by the way, hardstyle and happy hardcore is not hardcore, its just gay ! (imo)

Originally Posted By THE_PINK_POPO

personally, i think that you shouldnt be able to share the one you love...dont really understand it..

Originally Posted By YOSHIN


niiice :) :)
though that just takes a hell of a lot more paint, and fluo paint is xpensive. i was thinking more hilights in fluo, probably not the whole thing :P

Originally Posted By MICKOS

Speedfreak
the dj producer

Originally Posted By MUTANTE
( lots of Coil records are masterpiece anyway )

Originally Posted By PARTY_GIRL
then you defintely need to have sex on portishead (dummy album), :)

Originally Posted By ALICEINACIDLAND
Holy flying fuck. I just read all of this thread.
I really want to see 3 promoters get together and do a psy, hardcore and dubstep party. Before the summer...

aaaaaaaand goooooo!

Originally Posted By ALIENZED
so breakcore and dubstep are the same thing?

Originally Posted By RYAN.ORPHAN
another favorite;
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Originally Posted By raisinlove
There's always been innovations in this scene but it was extremely limited and small. The dancier stuff took over but many artists have kept with the original industrial idea. In fact, I always thought of the noize scene as the natural post-industrial successor in terms of artistic intent and sound exploration. In the second half of the 90's and first half of 2Ks, all I listened to was indutrial, coldwave and ebm. That led to ambient, electro-acoustic, idm and noize.
Then I got an overdose of it all ;)

Originally Posted By REBELLA
HARDTEK HARDTEK HARDTEK HARDTEK HARDTEK HARDTEK HARDTEK HARDTEK HARDTEK HARDTEK HARDTEK HARDTEK !!

Originally Posted By lyla
Feed me!!! :)

One room with breakcore, "IDM", glitch, darkpsy and hardcore and things we can't quite classify, and the other room with downtempo psIDM and melodic dark ambient things. A medieval folk group or singer-songwriter on classical instruments and then a dark symphonic operatic metal band could open the first room.

Originally Posted By raisinlove
ALL HARDCORE ALL!!! ALL OF IT!!! (not too much gabber 'tho, that gets boring fast)

Originally Posted By RAWALI
sets that arnt just one genre...

The most fun I ever had on a dancefloor was dancing and getting to a point where I can't really tell what genre is playing anymore... when everything gets so mixed up, the lines begin to blur and you stop analyzing whatever the fuck you hear... now that's a good god damned time!

Originally Posted By YOSHIN
- goa (not psy, goa... especially morning goa)
- darkpsy
- dark ambient (in a chillroom)
- psy-dub (in a chillroom too)

Originally Posted By BLISSS
You guys would have loved my nights at Passeport in the 90s (the original Passeport on StDenis & Rachel, not the new one). Half of what I played was industrial, the other half big beat, breaks, belgian new beat, acid, & amon tobin/aphex twin style dnb.

I used to end my night with "Thieves" by Ministry with the strobe light on full blast lol...

But yeah all that good shit Front 242, Skinny Puppy, Nitzer Ebb, Sisters Of Mercy, you name it, I dropped it, all on wax too, they had about 3,000 records on the wall behind the dj booth in that place, going back to the early 80s. The rarest shit you can imagine and the wierdest fucking crowd too, goths, ravers, rockers, all mixed up

It came to an end around 2000, when all that shitty ebm stuff took over, VNV Nation, that kind of trancey industrial pop all the goths started to listen to.

For me it was like they were stealing all those ideas from rave music and trying to resell it as industrial, so I refused to play that shit out of principle and eventually got fired and replaced by some "request" dj who was more than happy to sell out

Thats when I said fuck it, I'm gonna go this breaks shit cause no one else was doing it at the time and I started my night at Blizzarts.

Haven't looked back since :)

Originally Posted By LUKEPERIL
I see your request and raise you MOTHERFUCKING BREAKCORE! GET WITH IT! FOR FUCK'S SAKES WHY DON'T YOU KIDS GET IT?

Originally Posted By FISHEAD
to be fair; that's simply the sound that found the biggest home... and for FLA it was really just the Millenium album (which Leeb viewed as an experiment, but Fulber - working closely with Fear Factory at the time - wanted to continue)...

You and I know that there was a lot of stuff going on outside the confines of what the major labels were distributing... some artists were pushing the boundaries of sampling (ie: Negativland, Evolution Control Committee - and other artists associated with the fledgling Illegal Arts label), the noise community was also viewed as an offshoot of traditional industrial... and there was a ton of that going on in Japan (Masonna, Merzbow, Aube, CCCC, Incapacitants, Geregerigegege), Stateside (Trance, Illusion of Safety, Cock ESP, Princess Dragon-Mom)... not to mention all the weirdness that the World Serpent folk were doing in the UK.

anyhow - this is derailing the thread somewhat - but at the same time, what's happening on the surface doesn't always correspond with what's going on in the underground... in fact, it's almost impossible that it ever really does... even now, when music can theoretically reach an incalculable number of people in a seemingly infinitesimal amount of time, there is always bound to be some lag... and when something gets caught in the public eye, and money starts to really change hands, there is often a financial value in sticking to a certain sound that's been identified as palatable to the masses (ie: get used to dubstep remixes of pop songs, because there are likely to be a whole lot more of them)...

anyhow - didn't mean to get into a rant, or shit on anyone's parade... because the bottom line is - like what sounds good to you, and check out what you're interested in... music can generate a sense of community, but you can enjoy it even if it doesn't.

Originally Posted By ZOMBIENATHAN
but there are others keeping up the original ideas ... .. .

Originally Posted By ZOMBIENATHAN
i dunno man .. if the 'kids' have expropriated the sound, so what? a new sound for a new generation. most styles of music start out cool, get popped, get generic, and then get cool again some years later with new influence and different (mostly better) production techniques.

ie. i like industrial alot, but there's alot of crap out there. doesn't mean the whole genre is shit.

i miss some of my 'older' friends at dubstep events too, and some of the next gen weren't raised proper and are just getting used to being high n' drunk, but that doesn't mean i can't have a good time despite them. (besides, i'm getting to know some of these youngens, in a non-creepy way XD )

as for being popular or commercial, well, there's d'n'b and breaks in car ads, techno everywhere, industrial in blockbuster matrix types movies, and all kinds of trance at 20,000 people parties 'round the world .. welcome to the future.

my half-a-cent ...

Originally Posted By LUKEPERIL
I fucking love psychiatric trance.

Originally Posted By OLIVIA
west islanders + mustaches + under the age of 16 + grimy drugs = dubstep scene

the music is cool but the scene is ruined now
.. that's just my opinion