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People Who Abuse Should Be Abused In Return
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 3:21pm
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Originally Posted By JOJO_BIZARRE

Gandhi


Always wanted to just kick this guy in the balls.

Like it would be the most unfair act EVER perpetrated.;)
I'd be famous.

Too bad he ceased living.
party pooper.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 3:22pm
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or to bitch slap mère thérésa.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FUCKERS a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 3:23pm
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make love to aunt jemima ?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 3:36pm
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the problem is

everything is different for anyone

like, for example, there are alot of thing that I qualify "abusing" but apparently, it's not everyone who thinks like me, and some of those things I find "abusing" other people find them normal

so where's the line? Who can tell what is "abusing", equaly, "fairly"?

im really old fashion compare to today society, so in my case, not alot of human would live, alot of man would have their penis cut (unless I need him ;)) and alot of cunts who will get bitch slap until they die of pain.

So if we could find that limit, i totally agree, some people should get punish for what they do or what they have done

yes everyone does mistake, but some mistakes are unforgettable (yeah i know, that's not really "zen" or whatever the shit you wanna call it, but meh, im like that, i have a big heart and i try most of the time to understand both side of the medals, but there are things that i can't tolerate. at all.)
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 3:44pm
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Originally Posted By DAF

... who will get bitch slap until they die of pain. ...


Now that's gotta hurt a lot.
dying from the actual pain.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 3:52pm
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yeah

but some totally deserve it

you know, the kind of woman who bully their children and raise them in fear?
the one who gets tired of taking care of their sick child and decide to poison their food until they die?

what the fuck man, i just can't understand those cunts, and would mostly like to see them suffer
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Sparklz a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 4:04pm
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Originally Posted By FATAL

make love to aunt jemima ?


Cubby Chaser :P

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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 4:05pm
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it's not about being zen, it's about making logical sens. If you kill the killers, then everybody's killing everybody.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FUCKERS a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 4:12pm
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aunt jemima enabled me great morning sex :D
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 4:57pm
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Originally Posted By LUKEPERIL

So what the original poster was saying is "keep the cycle of abuse going, we don't want later generations to forget how great it is to keep on abusing".

That's fucking retarded. Anybody who knows even the first thing about abuse will tell you that the last thing you want to do is become the abuser, even if it's in vengeance.

A tooth for a tooth and an eye for an eye leaves the world toothless and blind.


Granted but... what do you suggest instead to counter abuse ?

Laws and the penal system ? Hasn't it been clearly established yet that this doesn't - and never has - worked ? No amount of time behind bars is going to "cure" anyone out of being a raping pedophile.

Education ? What about those redneck kids that don't go to school because daddy "says you ain't going to no school 'cause they're juss tryin' to steal my m'ney", are home schooled by i'gnant parents who smack around their kids and grow up to beat people up to get around ? How do you educate them ? Education works if EVERYONE's getting educated, which will never be possible ( and hence there will always be abusers, even if it's a small proportion of people ).



So what then ?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 5:08pm
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I agree too, it's a circle not worth starting but I still think those people should learn, in a way

because most of them, like most of the human kind, will never stop what they are doing until they realize how bad it is, until they understand the consequences

it's hard to express, i feel that my thoughts are being a little contradictory on this point, since i feel it's something that we need to judge case by case (and not generalize)

+ it's even harder to tell when it's something that had never happen to you.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Olivia a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 5:41pm
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my post was originally subliminal but i like where it went
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 5:42pm
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killing murderers is redundant and hypocritical. duh.

rape, sexual abuse, and child abuse, is worse than murder. the victims go on living, and the consequences either push them to abuse in turn, or simply ruin their chances at living proper.
the psychological trauma outlives the physical; the concept of being forced into something is just too horrific for humans to tolerate, and get over.

but abusing the abuser is not ideal, partly 'cause of the consequences to the person handing out the punishment (like that the executioner is also a murderer). there should definitely be massive punishment though ...

my idea has always been: first you need absolute proof of the crime. second, you throw all those bastards in one giant hall. third, you lock the door, and never look inside. then you come back 3 months later, clean up, and start over with a new batch of assholes.

it's not a perfect plan, but something needs to be done. ppl need to be learned.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 5:58pm
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Originally Posted By ZOMBIE8MYBRAIN

killing murderers is redundant and hypocritical. duh.

rape, sexual abuse, and child abuse, is worse than murder. the victims go on living, and the consequences either push them to abuse in turn, or simply ruin their chances at living proper.
the psychological trauma outlives the physical; the concept of being forced into something is just too horrific for humans to tolerate, and get over.

but abusing the abuser is not ideal, partly 'cause of the consequences to the person handing out the punishment (like that the executioner is also a murderer). there should definitely be massive punishment though ...

my idea has always been: first you need absolute proof of the crime. second, you throw all those bastards in one giant hall. third, you lock the door, and never look inside. then you come back 3 months later, clean up, and start over with a new batch of assholes.

it's not a perfect plan, but something needs to be done. ppl need to be learned.


Ok but that makes no sense because the people that lock them up sort of also become abusers.

In essence, there is no way out of this.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BOBDYLAN a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 6:03pm
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Originally Posted By OLIVIA

and rapists who rape little girls should get the death penalty

are you pointing out someone in particular?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WhiteLight a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 6:03pm
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"rape, sexual abuse, and child abuse, is worse than murder."

I don't agree with that at all. Sure, being raped or abused is disgusting, and should be punished in my opinion. I know I could go as far as to kill someone who'd rape someone close to me.

Thing is, the reason rape victims go on living with so many consequences is partly because society look at rape as "something worse than getting killed". I don't think rape victims need our pity. I think they need our help to understand that they can be strong enough to look forward and go on with life. Instead, our society constantly look at them as if victims were some weak people who got permanently dirty from getting raped.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 6:10pm
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It's quite incredible how prehistoric peoples become when faced with evil.

Where does abuse, murder, crime live? Mostly in poor environments. As long as we go on accepting that its ok for one family to be filthy rich and there neighbors down the road to be poor like church mice, violent crime will keep on proliferating. Cus lets face it, when you are deemed worthless by society (the wealthy) and have nothing to loose, whats to stop you from acting on your skewed impulses?
Unfortunately for those who are stuck in those environments, the types of changes needed to really make a difference will not happen over night, and are not even desired by the majority. A better distribution of the wealth, a reinvestment in the problem community's, better funding for community services are all politically unpopular.

So i guess you might as well make a spectator sport out of the torture of bad peoples; give the peoples what they want and make a billion dollars.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 6:14pm
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Originally Posted By KEVIN_FLYNN

Ok but that makes no sense because the people that lock them up sort of also become abusers.

In essence, there is no way out of this.


Yes there is one. We have laws already defining what is abuse. To abuse an abuser dosent make any sens, rehabilitation is the key here. There are laws and charts concerning what is an acceptable rehabilitation protocol in a civillised society too.

To lock up some guy for a few years with group therapy is different than sending him to a work camp with horrible life condition after we'v done castrating him.

There are ways to prevent harm done to others that dosent deprive criminals of their most basic human rights.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 6:17pm
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Originally Posted By KEVIN_FLYNN

Ok but that makes no sense because the people that lock them up sort of also become abusers.

In essence, there is no way out of this.


nah, it's indirect. no actual abuse going on. you just lock the door and walk away. yes, it's kinda similar 'cause someone is still dealing out a punishment, but a line has to be drawn somewhere to divide direct action that would turn the punisher into a hypocrite, and proper consequence to improper behaviour.

just like weed is not a gateway drug, locking a door is not a gateway to becoming abusive yourself.

i'm talking about the actual act of punishment. raping a rapist does not help either side. allowing rapists to rape and kill and eat eachother, is acceptable. it's the 'hands off' approach.

otherwise, there really is no way out, and what's left? ignoring the problem and allowing it to happen? sticking to what we have in place, which doesn't work?

the only other thing, is arming everyone. let the ppl defend themselves. but, you put a gun in everyone's hands, rape rate might drop ('cause you'll get shot if you try) but what does that lead to?
i don't think i have to detail the consequences of every human carrying a loaded gun around. in fact, a rapist with a gun is more dangerous, even if the women have guns too. violence breeds violence.

maybe we just need a real life spider-man, or ghost-rider. i like vigilantes XD

meh...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» qwertyu a répondu le Mon 23 Nov, 2009 @ 6:22pm
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Originally Posted By ZOMBIE8MYBRAIN

nah, it's indirect. no actual abuse going on. you just lock the door and walk away. yes, it's kinda similar 'cause someone is still dealing out a punishment, but a line has to be drawn somewhere to divide direct action that would turn the punisher into a hypocrite, and proper consequence to improper behaviour.

just like weed is not a gateway drug, locking a door is not a gateway to becoming abusive yourself.

i'm talking about the actual act of punishment. raping a rapist does not help either side. allowing rapists to rape and kill and eat eachother, is acceptable. it's the 'hands off' approach.

otherwise, there really is no way out, and what's left? ignoring the problem and allowing it to happen? sticking to what we have in place, which doesn't work?

the only other thing, is arming everyone. let the ppl defend themselves. but, you put a gun in everyone's hands, rape rate might drop ('cause you'll get shot if you try) but what does that lead to?
i don't think i have to detail the consequences of every human carrying a loaded gun around. in fact, a rapist with a gun is more dangerous, even if the women have guns too. violence breeds violence.

maybe we just need a real life spider-man, or ghost-rider. i like vigilantes XD

meh...


What we have in place dosent work? How come?

I think the failures of what is in place regarding abusers have been so overmediatised that we overestimate them.
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