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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 5:16pm |
 Coolness: 66655 | neoform
don't you use dreamweaver? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 5:17pm |
 Coolness: 339805 | nope.
i use textedit and claris homepage. i try using the most simplistic html editor i can.. the only time i ever really use an editor is if i'm making complex tables. dreamweaver, frontpage and all that crap throws in tons of useless crap that isn't ever needed.. the interface for [ openimg.org ] was made by hand, but [ djneoform.com ] was made in claris, since the whole page is one single table. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 5:19pm |
| Coolness: 66655 | uhm
then maybe you should learn HTML |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 5:19pm |
| Coolness: 339805 | hahaha
i should learn html? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 5:22pm |
| Coolness: 339805 | are you planning on elaborating on such a bold statement? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 5:24pm |
| Coolness: 66655 | yeah
font tags don't exist anymore tables are the devil for layout all attributes need to be quoted there are ending tags when there are no beginning tags and vice versa form tags inbetween the table and row tag center tags don't exist anymore I wouldn't really put down someone's website untill you learn HTML |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 5:30pm |
| Coolness: 339805 | what the hell are you talking about?
you live in some sort of stylesheet world or something?? guess what? html is still the standard for websites as well as tables are still WIDELY used.. [ www.apple.com ] [ www.microsoft.com ] [ www.adobe.com ] just about EVERY major site found on the web uses Tables for layout. if you think otherwise you are seriously dilusional. form tags between tables are perfectly acceptible, they work just fine and there's no reason why it should be a bad thing to do.. phpmyadmin does it, ever looked in it's code? center tags certainly DO exist. and atributes do not need to be quoted if they are single words or if they don't contain quotes themselves. as for ending tags where no beginning tags exist, well sorry, but when writing a 10,000 line(s of code) site it does occasionaly happen that some loose tags make their way into the fray. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 5:42pm |
| Coolness: 66655 | uhm
Tables are bad for layout. They offer no control and degrade poorly, aren't very scalable, definately aren't managable, and bad for search engines since there is more code than content. form tags between tables is acceptable, not between a TABLE and TR tag. Its bad practice, bad HTML, and just plain wrong. The only reason you have to use it is because you're using tables in the first place. Font tags and center tags do not exist after HTML 4.x. They are depreciated because they are useless with DIV and SPAN and P tags along with CSS. And the reason why you write 10000 lines of HTML is because you're doing it all completely wrong. Clean modern HTML is important because: - It makes your site more search engine friendly - It's easier to update - It's easier to make good looking sites - It makes your site degrade a lot better into smaller resolutions/older browsers - It makes your site more scalable against IE, Mozilla, Opera, Netscape, Safari, even Lynx. - It makes your site load better since you don't have to make the browser correct all your mistakes - It makes the move to xHTML so much easier. And there are so many more reasons I suggest you go read up [ www.alistapart.com ] [ www.w3.org ] [ www.liquidpulse.net ] btw Your site is not valid HTML with versions 2, 3, 4.1 Transitional and 4.1 Strict. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» djAmalgam replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 6:23pm |
| Coolness: 105930 | it would be nice if someone was able to gimme advice on how to program the layout of my site... [ www.djamalgam.com ]
i have a menu on the left and one on the right and every selection is supposed to appear in the middle frame. its made up of 3 frames at the moment, basic shit. it works fine at home, but ive loaded my page on other computers and scroll bars appear around the middle frame. how can i fix dis? i know there are dead links, i havent finished those pages yet. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 7:08pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» djAmalgam replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 8:29pm |
| Coolness: 105930 | thanks! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» djAmalgam replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 8:45pm |
| Coolness: 105930 | hmm another question, i use Dreamweaver, can i do this CSS stuff via the program ? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 8:55pm |
 Coolness: 299465 | your penis is small |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 8:59pm |
| Coolness: 66655 | you probally could, but it probally wouldn't be done right.
Best to do it all by hand, not only will it go faster but you can have your personal garauntee that what you're doing is correct and perfect. [ www.devguru.com ] [ www.devguru.com ] happy reading again |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 9:03pm |
 Coolness: 2604125 | hmmm well i don't mind a new format if all the content stays... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 9:24pm |
| Coolness: 339805 | i never said i have 10,000 lines of html.
i have 10,000 lines of php. i have one document that contains all my html and everything else makes it's calls from that file. as for compatibility, i've checked all my sites one Windows and MacOS under just about every browser i can get, and my sites look the same under all of them, with exception to IE for windows. and thats only cause IE doesn't follow HTML standards. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elixireleven replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 9:28pm |
| Coolness: 73980 | im halfway thru psikon noah. and the NAVIGATION IS AS STRAIGHTFORWARD AS YOU CAN GET UNLESS YOU CANT RECOGNIZE A CURSOR CHANGE OR ROLLOVER SCRIPT. then im starting on this contract, i need to get paid somewhere joo know.
if you have any ideas tho, any influences you can thnk of, send em my way. but essentially the structure on this thing should be similar cause the content only takes up a minimal amount of room. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» OMGSTFUDIEPLZKTX replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 9:56pm |
| Coolness: 66655 | Neoform
again write good HTML have no problems anywhere. Its just that simple. You don't even have a doctype declaration in your HTML, and you wonder why browsers render the site differently? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 10:02pm |
| Coolness: 339805 | uhh.. when did i ever wonder that? the only browser that does render it differently like i said, was IE for windows.
might i see some of your code to see how neat an tidy your code is? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» blop replied on Wed Sep 3, 2003 @ 10:18pm |
 Coolness: 200670 | kira just showed me the final layout of my page and i just creamed my panties. it's fan-fucking-tastic. excellent design, easy navigation.
she did everything i asked and so much more, i'm very satisfied. hire this girl. xoxox kira yr on FIRE! |
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