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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Thu Oct 13, 2011 @ 5:22pm |
 Coolness: 159105 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
Would you gladly shoot a bankster or a corrupt politician in the fucking face to protect your middle class lifestyle? Cus hippie's and unions are not the problem here, they are actually standing up for their, and your right to a middle class lifestyle. But if you want to keep on believing that the world is flat (or Wall Street has your back) go right ahead. Reread his post. He's not disputing the raison-d'etre of the Occupation, he's pondering how this chaotic mess of people with seemingly divergent motivations will actually achieve whatever goal has driven the occupation so far. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Oct 13, 2011 @ 6:01pm |
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We'll see if anything REALLY changes in those countries. Have the new governments in place done anything to alleviate the suffering of the people? Probably not... Chances are it'll just go back to the same ol same ol Yup, and we have always had that right in North America, thats nothing new. Choosing capitalism is also a choice, a choice that the people of North America made. Im not saying I agree with it, but it is the way our mentality is driven Ever wonder why in North America we judge a person by how much money they make? If you dont make money you're not as good as the other guy whos got more money, so you have a nation of people trying to outdo each other to see who can consume the most and make the most money. Its the rampant materialism thats killing us, not rich people Not really, what are people gonna riot over? The fact they were stupid enough take out loans they could never pay back? Or the fact they ELECTED the government thats in place? they didn't really elect the government that is in palce... I mean, the turn outs are horrible... when that few people actually vote, and the split is almost 50/50, that should be the best indication that there was no real choice |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Thu Oct 13, 2011 @ 6:49pm |
 Coolness: 83860 | @ Masa... I get what your saying n Im down for a beer, and like I said before. I agree with nearly all the points occupy party is stating, but to say you represent a hope for a better distribution of wealth is one thing, but to actually devise a way to actually IMPLIMENT it is a whole other story. And that's the problem with the idiots on wall street.
So many fucking people are so eager to say this and say that about how fucked up everything is, but nobody is fucking smart enough to step up and suggest an alternative. If they hate the fed being run by a private bank so much why dont the activists say they are not leaving until it gets audited by a firm in the private sector and takin' over by the government instead. Or follow in kenedy's footsteps to reinstate the greenback? The thing is they are talking so much shit (true or not) that nobody knows what the hell they are fighting for. THERE IS NO GOAL ALL IT IS, IS A BUNCH OF FUCKING HIPPIES COMPLAINING This isn't directed at you Masa, but let me put this in layman's terms for all the useless cunts out there calling me right wing for simply telling it like is... Say you were at work doing a new job, and you boss comes up to you every 5 minutes screaming his ass off telling you that "you're doing it wrong" in way that is completely unconstructive because that's all he's fucking saying... "YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG! YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG!" He might be right... You may be doing it wrong, but that doesn't really fix the problem does it? You still don't know how to do it right if he's not constuctively suggesting a better way to perform the task at hand. He's not wrong to tell you it's the wrong way, but you'd probably think your boss is an idiot asshole for not explaining the RIGHT way. And that's exactly what is happening on wall street. Thousands of people screaming YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG regarding SOOO MANY DIFFERENT THING, but not one is suggesting a better way to do any of them. @databoy... Hell fucking yeah I'd fight against anybody trying to take anything that I busted my ass to obtain. And FYI my political stance is firmly centered, as anybody should know it takes 2 wings to fly. I never said wall street had my back,so I'd appreciate it if you didn't try to put words in my mouth and if you think that the unions are not part of the problem, I highly urge you to educate yourself a little bit more on the matter as they have a completely different agenda than that of the protesters. That being said... I'm not against the idea of a revolution, but occupy wallstreet needs to step their game up and figure out exactly what it is they are fighting for, or they won't make it past the first snow fall. My 2cents... now FUCK YOU!! =) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Oct 13, 2011 @ 6:53pm |
| Coolness: 509545 | they need to start burning down buildings to get noticed... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK replied on Thu Oct 13, 2011 @ 6:56pm |
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Let's not forget why they have the 2nd amendment... ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Thu Oct 13, 2011 @ 7:08pm |
 Coolness: 158755 | Yeah, yeah, we get it, people from the whole political spectrum are saying the protesters don't have something concrete. From Fox News to Chomsky and Klein... Way to formulate your own opinion 
But it's also been said that nobody expected this grassroots movement to grow so big, so quick. Something's bound to come out of so many people assembling. Look at the Tea Party. Oh and language, ya right-wing fuck  |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu Oct 13, 2011 @ 7:49pm |
 Coolness: 106100 | Originally Posted By MASA
Yeah, yeah, we get it, people from the whole political spectrum are saying the protesters don't have something concrete. From Fox News to Chomsky and Klein... Anyone with eyes open knows that the gangsterism of Wall Street -- financial institutions generally -- has caused severe damage to the people of the United States (and the world). And should also know that it has been doing so increasingly for over 30 years, as their power in the economy has radically increased, and with it their political power. That has set in motion a vicious cycle that has concentrated immense wealth, and with it political power, in a tiny sector of the population, a fraction of 1%, while the rest increasingly become what is sometimes called "a precariat" -- seeking to survive in a precarious existence. They also carry out these ugly activities with almost complete impunity -- not only too big to fail, but also "too big to jail." The courageous and honorable protests underway in Wall Street should serve to bring this calamity to public attention, and to lead to dedicated efforts to overcome it and set the society on a more healthy course. -Noam Chomsky [ occupywallst.org ] Naomi Klein: Occupy Wall Street is The Most Important Thing in the World Now [ ukiahcommunityblog.wordpress.com ] [ www.youtube.com ] Do 'Occupy Wall Street' Protests Represent Your Views of the Economy? [ www.foxnews.com ] Yes. These folks are right about corporate greed and what's happening to the little guy. 62.86% (171,497 votes) No. They have no idea how jobs are created or how a free-enterprise system works. 34.25% (93,434 votes) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Thu Oct 13, 2011 @ 8:13pm |
| Coolness: 159105 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
The courageous and honorable protests underway in Wall Street should serve to bring this calamity to public attention, and to lead to dedicated efforts to overcome it and set the society on a more healthy course. Bring this calamity to public attention ? Unless your sorry welfare ass is glued to reruns of Jerry Springer all day, if you're an honest working citizen, I don't think you need a gathering of thousands of people to "educate" you on how broken the system is. Just look at your paycheck or watch the godforsaken news. I'm not buying this whole "protesting to educate the masses about this important issue". If it impacts more than 85% of mid and lower class people out there, like Murdock Rock says, we should be gathering to find a way to fix this instead of raping Youtube with "educational" videos of people chanting or yelling in protest. Although we should appreciate and celebrate the flurry of additional precisions offered on why Occupy Wall Street exists, ultimately WE ALL KNOW shit's broken beyond belief so stop reiterating that and start finding feasible and constructive ways to resolve this. You can all call me right wing too while you're at it but that's my 16¢ with 14¢ of imposed tax. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Rakoon replied on Thu Oct 13, 2011 @ 9:14pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu Oct 13, 2011 @ 9:16pm |
| Coolness: 106100 | If you or Murdock Rock have a brilliant idea to fix shit, feel free to chime in, if its to degrade the peoples that are trying to start a movement of awareness about a serious problem with the system, well thats kinda lame.
Makes me wonder why you have such harsh words for peoples who are sticking up for something you claim to believe in, yet remain mute towards the artisans of so much hardship. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Fri Oct 14, 2011 @ 12:30am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Fri Oct 14, 2011 @ 1:28am |
 Coolness: 145185 | no time to comment on this discussion...
here is video from last night i believe at OWS, the word is that the police will be at Zucotti park in about 6 and half hours to evict the protesters before the friday trading starts, if you know anyone in NYC contact them now and tell them to get down there... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Fri Oct 14, 2011 @ 1:32am |
| Coolness: 159105 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
If you or Murdock Rock have a brilliant idea to fix shit, feel free to chime in, if its to degrade the peoples that are trying to start a movement of awareness about a serious problem with the system, well thats kinda lame. Makes me wonder why you have such harsh words for peoples who are sticking up for something you claim to believe in, yet remain mute towards the artisans of so much hardship. No one's offered any solutions so far but it hasn't stopped anyone from plastering the internet about it so I don't see why we shouldn't be allowed to discuss this in a neutral or potentially negative way as well. If you find having your beliefs challenged lame, well that's your prerogative. Who did I degrade exactly ? I'm just saying that "raising awareness" is kinda of a moot point when there's already been extensive media coverage, considerable documentation, online resources and groups and even movies about our failed economic model, bailouts and so on so unless you've been living under a rock so the past 15 years, pretty much everyone in North America is either directly affected or at least heard of such issues. Again, I don't see where you read harsh words on my part. I didn't call anyone a hippy, a hobo or a disillusioned hipster. Susceptible much ? Plus, AGAIN, stop saying we are against this movement, we AREN'T, we just can't see what appears to be thousands of apparently headless chickens cooing in a giant makeshift coop is going to achieve. Reversing decades of corruption isn't going to happen overnight so unless the occupiers storm the Stock Exchange, I'm not holding my breath for a full governmental restructure in the immediate. If things change as a result of this, I'll be the first one to apologize and stick a foot or two in my mouth but that remains to be seen. Only time will tell. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MtGreylock82 replied on Fri Oct 14, 2011 @ 6:43am |
 Coolness: 28300 | Lech Walesa of Poland's Solidarity Movement in the 1980s is the latest major political figure to lend support for the Occupy Wall Street Movement. He's planning to come to NYC to speak in front of the group as soon as his schedule allows it.
[ www.nydailynews.com ] [ www.businessinsider.com ] [ online.wsj.com ] |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Oct 14, 2011 @ 12:35pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Fri Oct 14, 2011 @ 1:39pm |
| Coolness: 106100 | Originally Posted By V.2-1
Bring this calamity to public attention ? Unless your sorry welfare ass is glued to reruns of Jerry Springer all day, if you're an honest working citizen, I don't think you need a gathering of thousands of people to "educate" you on how broken the system is. Just look at your paycheck or watch the godforsaken news. I'm not buying this whole "protesting to educate the masses about this important issue". I dont know, Kinda sounds like you're calling the demonstraors "sorry welfare asse's" as opposed to honest working citizens that dont need to demontrate, beeing educated enough already. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Fri Oct 14, 2011 @ 6:29pm |
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Either I'm not clear enough or maybe your comprehension of english leaves a lot to be desired but that whole quote you just posted has absolutely nothing to do with the protesters. I'm just gonna leave this here : Originally Posted By V.2-1
Exposer cette calamité à l'attention du public ? À moins d'être un B.S. qui a la face collé sur un écran à regarder la Guerre Des Clans à longueur de journée, si t'es un honnête citoyen qui travaille, je ne pense pas que t'aille de besoin d'un attroupement d'une couple de milliers de personnes pour "t'éduquer" sur comment le système est décrissé. T'as juste à checker ton chèque de paie ou de regarder les nouvelles. Je ne crois pas en un "attroupement pour éduquer la masse sur ce problème important" pour une seconde. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Sat Oct 15, 2011 @ 12:53am |
 Coolness: 129705 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
Kinda sounds like you're calling the demonstraors "sorry welfare asse's" as opposed to honest working citizens that dont need to demontrate, beeing educated enough already. Well I dont know too many "working" citizens than can afford to take a 3 week vacation camping out on wall street doing nothing. I'd reakon about 50% or more of those people are welfare cases easy, the other half think they're owed something. Like that dude with the "Throw me a bone" sign. What an asshole |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat Oct 15, 2011 @ 1:02am |
| Coolness: 145185 | occupy canada starts NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Sat Oct 15, 2011 @ 3:10am |
| Coolness: 158755 | Originally Posted By BLISSS
Well I dont know too many "working" citizens than can afford to take a 3 week vacation camping out on wall street doing nothing. I'd reakon about 50% or more of those people are welfare cases easy, the other half think they're owed something. Like that dude with the "Throw me a bone" sign. What an asshole Was actually thinking of bringing my laptop. I'm pretty sure I can find an outlet somewhere anyway. And well.. We're all assholes to somebody. Case in point. |
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