Has A Crack-Down On The Rave Scene Started?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Sun Sep 19, 2010 @ 8:33pm |
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CALGARY -- Cops shut down a huge rave in northwest Calgary late Saturday after paramedics treated nine people, two of them hospitalized, who overdosed on drugs. Up to 25 cop units were called to the event -- named Subculture, featuring national and international DJs -- shortly before midnight after they received calls the rave of 2,500 people was getting out of hand, with complaints of excessive noise, fights and drug overdoses. Insp. Rob Williams said police asked for the event to be shut down because of concerns of public safety and over capacity, which is still under investigation. "They were out of control -- they were drunk, high on drugs, rowdy," he said, adding it's believed the ill ravers took too much ecstasy. Williams said tending to the party put a strain on cop resources, tying up 25 units not available for the rest of Calgary. "It's concerning because it depleted the strength throughout the city," he said. Brian Kennedy, operations manager of Aaron Paramedical Services, hired for the $30-$40 a ticket event, said nine people with symptoms of illicit drug use -- experiencing difficulty breathing and altered levels of consciousness -- were removed and treated on scene. Calgary paramedics took two men in their early 20s to hospital in non-life-threatening condition, said Alberta Health Services EMS spokesman Stuart Brideaux. As workers cleaned up equipment at Symons Valley Ranch on Sunday, where empty beer cups, confetti and glowsticks littered the ground, Jeremy Bridge released a statement on behalf of PK Event Services Inc. saying they produced the show "with all aspects of public safety in mind." Sixty-five staff were hired, including security, and shuttle bus drivers for the event, scheduled to end at 2 a.m. "PK Event Services does not condone the use of illegal substances, and ensured that our security team conducted thorough pat-downs and bag searches to address these kinds of issues," Bridge said. "Despite these efforts, we acknowledge it is impossible to control what individuals do before they enter an event, or what choices people make -- the same can be said for any concert, bar, club or special event." Attendee Scott Lalonde, 19, said he was upset police shut down a show that in his eyes did not include violence. "A few people were being treated by EMS -- I can understand if someone got shot but no one was seriously harmed," he said. He said a few bad choices by a few should not have meant shutting down the entire event and ruining the night for everyone. "If drugs are going around that is people's responsibility, it should not have fallen on the other thousand people," he said. "I wasn't there doing drugs -- I was there celebrating my birthday." No one was arrested. This was a licensed and legal event btw. I think I'm starting to believe Noah. The police are trying to manufacture outrage against the electronic dance scene so they can start cracking down on it. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Sun Sep 19, 2010 @ 8:46pm |
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Fuck them Fuck your mother Fuck your sister Fuck your father Fuck your brother Fuck them all! |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sun Sep 19, 2010 @ 9:30pm |
 Coolness: 166505 | euh, the cops cracking down on teh rave scene?? OMG!
The media trying to make us look bad!? Fuck! oh man! we have to do something quick before we -- oh, right, this isn't news ... :p i'm pretty sure the cops & the government & straight/normal people have been against the scene since day 1. Our parties are, after all, illegal. i don't think they should be, and i think that all those who oppose us are typical right-wing types who never want anyone to have fun - and they fear the unknown - but we've been fighting the good fight. And i guess we can't blame them, given their positions/lifestyles, for not conceding and giving us free reign - though it would be nice, since alot of us are just in it for the music, and we put alot of time and effort into it, not for the drugs, but for the good times, and good friends. So, of course the oppressors will use what they can to chip away at us. They know goddamn well that we're having fun, and that makes 'em mad! For the record, an under-age person is safer in a Rave by Sunday morning, than at church .. :p |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» system_glitch replied on Sun Sep 19, 2010 @ 9:57pm |
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For the record, an under-age person is safer in a Rave by Sunday morning, than at church .. :p That's a hard punch... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry replied on Mon Sep 20, 2010 @ 3:16am |
 Coolness: 73045 | oof low blow |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Mon Sep 20, 2010 @ 7:53am |
 Coolness: 140645 | what if the rave is IN A CHURCH!!!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Sep 20, 2010 @ 8:04am |
 Coolness: 145160 | i miss those... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MelooDie replied on Mon Sep 20, 2010 @ 9:42am |
 Coolness: 248385 | Originally Posted By RAWALI
what if the rave is IN A CHURCH!!!! It was a raveeeeeee... in a church basement! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Mon Sep 20, 2010 @ 11:15am |
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It was a raveeeeeee... in a church basement! sanctuary... SANCTUARYYYY!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mutante replied on Mon Sep 20, 2010 @ 4:35pm |
 Coolness: 76140 | Originally Posted By BETTY_HAZE
hehe |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Mon Sep 20, 2010 @ 7:19pm |
 Coolness: 86465 | Originally Posted By BETTY_HAZE
I didn't know who Anna Wood was or what the Nasenbluten track was about so I googled: In 1996 Nasenbluten made the limited edition single "Anna Wood" on vinyl through the Dead Girl label, as a commentary on the moral panic in the press surrounding rave parties after the death of Australian schoolgirl Anna Wood. Her ecstasy-related death brought about a hardline approach to rave and dance parties in Australia. The record was never commercially available and was only distributed by the band itself who released 50 vinyls each individually numbered. They featured a picture of the girl with the phrase "I'm having the best night of my life!" and a picture of Dutch DJ Paul Elstak on the B side with the words "I wanna see the rainbow high in the sky", a reference to the happy hardcore scene and its links to ecstasy. yikes. pretty dark, man. making a public mockery of some harmless young girl who died of an overdose? they really crossed a line there, and not in a good way. Mr. Kirk's Nightmare managed to explore the same theme without targeting a real person. but naming her and putting her picture on the record?? damn. that's a very personal attack. The producers must have known that it would traumatize her family. I think that's evil. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn replied on Tue Sep 21, 2010 @ 8:28am |
 Coolness: 178605 | well lots of stuffs seem to be caused by drug use... the logical answer would be to do less drugs, no? Honestly, experience tells me you don't need drugs to party, you can get high on music only. My opinion, anyways.
Let's say raves weren't associated with drugs, that most people were sober at events... What would police complain about? Would parties be busted as much? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Tue Sep 21, 2010 @ 9:22am |
 Coolness: 2603945 | Parties are never busted unless there is a noise complaint... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Tue Sep 21, 2010 @ 9:24am |
| Coolness: 140645 | Originally Posted By AERIAL
well lots of stuffs seem to be caused by drug use... the logical answer would be to do less drugs, no? Honestly, experience tells me you don't need drugs to party, you can get high on music only. My opinion, anyways. YEAH! Drugs should be illegal! ...wait |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Dzzz replied on Tue Sep 21, 2010 @ 10:21am |
 Coolness: 29780 | Originally Posted By AERIAL
well lots of stuffs seem to be caused by drug use... the logical answer would be to do less drugs, no? Honestly, experience tells me you don't need drugs to party, you can get high on music only. My opinion, anyways. Let's say raves weren't associated with drugs, that most people were sober at events... What would police complain about? Would parties be busted as much? yes, lets alienate 70% of the people that listen to the music and go to live shows.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Tue Sep 21, 2010 @ 11:17am |
| Coolness: 140645 | Originally Posted By DPIF
yes, lets alienate 70% of the people that listen to the music and go to live shows.. as far as I know, easily 90% of the world population listens to some form of music... I dont think 70% of them use drugs (especially if you exclude alcohol and weed) acctually... if raves wern't an automatic association to chemical drugs, alot of other people who arn't drug users might cease to be alienated |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Dzzz replied on Tue Sep 21, 2010 @ 11:33am |
| Coolness: 29780 | Originally Posted By RAWALI
as far as I know, easily 90% of the world population listens to some form of music... I dont think 70% of them use drugs (especially if you exclude alcohol and weed) acctually... if raves wern't an automatic association to chemical drugs, alot of other people who arn't drug users might cease to be alienated a lot of music has been associated with drug use, not just raves/electronic music. Why would you not include alcohol and weed, they are drugs too. look at the 60's with the hippies, 70's disco, 80's cokefest.. I'm just throwing out a random % because I personally believe drug users are in the majority in this scene, could be wrong. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Tue Sep 21, 2010 @ 1:34pm |
| Coolness: 140645 | because alcohol is legal and is not viewed in the same way as... ooh I dunno... say exctasy by the general public outside of raves...
certain popular forms of occidental music can be associated with drug use, rock, hip hop, certain forms of electronic music... on the other hand take country, pop, classical, traditionnal chinese music, qwalli... if you look outside your own bubble, you'll quickly realise that most musicians in the world are not viewed as alcoholics or drug addicts (that doesnt mean they arnt but they arnt assiciated with drugs and alcohol abuse) |
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| Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» Dzzz replied on Tue Sep 21, 2010 @ 1:52pm |
| Coolness: 29780 | you sound so condescending..
yes of course some Taoist monk in China playing a Mandolin isn't associated with drug use, but whats your point? I'm not even sure why you're bringing up other types of music, this discussion is about raves, on a website called [ rave.ca ] If you don't think loads of people do drugs in the electronic music scene (more so than any other music) than you're either going to different parties than me or aren't paying attention. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali replied on Tue Sep 21, 2010 @ 2:27pm |
| Coolness: 140645 | Originally Posted By DPIF
you sound so condescending.. I dont mean to, I just wanna make a point Originally Posted By DPIF
yes of course some Taoist monk in China playing a Mandolin isn't associated with drug use, but whats your point? I'm not even sure why you're bringing up other types of music, this discussion is about raves, on a website called [ rave.ca ] Acctually... you brought up the word "music" in a blanket statement saying that 70% of people who listen to music or attend shows do drugs and then went on to bring up "60's with the hippies, 70's disco, 80's cokefest.. " taoist monk is an extreme example but what I'm saying is I dont feel rihanna is associated with drug use Originally Posted By DPIF
If you don't think loads of people do drugs in the electronic music scene (more so than any other music) than you're either going to different parties than me or aren't paying attention. ... I think my initial statement says it all "acctually... if raves wern't an automatic association to chemical drugs, alot of other people who arn't drug users might cease to be alienated" ...I do think and know that alot of people in the electronic music scene do drugs. I also think that drugs are responsible for alot of people not to associate with rave culture... |
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