What Makes A Good Dj.
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JEE3.14_agricole replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 2:01pm |
 Coolness: 107210 | LOL.. bliss, you on my case now??
YAY im sooo happy. Btw ive been mixing for less then 2years so give it time mr old timer. Ive never pretended to be the shit, clown and Ufot unsuccesfull?? WTF? These are 2 dedicated to the scene awesome Djs/person, dunno why you hating on them(id bet 100$ its cuz youve had arguements with them actually) Dont include me in your lil fit mr.. i havent actually said anything about you except that your annoying over the internet, shit i actually said you were most likely a cool guy and i do enjoy some of your mixes and have had fun during few of you sets live. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 2:09pm |
 Coolness: 93075 | Originally Posted By BLISSS
Oh yeah I forgot to add, for the hate I apprently inspire from certain DJS on here, I'd say they are mainly djs that are successful (UFOT, Host One, Jeepee, Clown etc..) I'm the type of jealous asshole who will take any oportunity to take a stab at you in the back. I'm "faux" dj who do it for the wrong reasons (money, fame, etc...) Fixed, jeez bliss, go easier on yourself you dimwitted rat bastard :P Ufot-success, some have it, some pretend to... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 2:23pm |
 Coolness: 166520 | from bliss: "@ Na, you say you're not in the music business to make money...I'm assuming you never charge cover for events, give all your music away for free and never collect a dj ever? "
actually, i was/am in debt from a couple of the old parties i threw, 'cause i pay my DJs well. when i charge cover for my new weekly event, 99% of the cash goes back to the Djs, or re-invested into the event, or used to buy beer/shots for ppl. in a decade of playing hard music in MTL, i've only made a few hundred bucks and a handful of weed. (and some beer XD ) -- it's ok, i'm used to doing volunteer work -- no worries. and a bunch of my tracks are available for free here on [ rave.ca ] ... :) --> sorry to talk about myself, but the comment ended with a question mark, so i felt obliged :p PS. you what else makes a good DJ? knowing how to plug in your own gear - hehehe XD |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» SourUltraFast replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 2:25pm |
 Coolness: 91365 | Originally Posted By ZOMBIE8MYBRAIN
PS. you what else makes a good DJ? knowing how to plug in your own gear - hehehe XD I loled |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 3:28pm |
 Coolness: 201200 | I made more money from photography in 1.5 years than I did with music in 10 years.. and I'm much better at sound than photography. Music is a bitch.
Although my large library of tracks has come in useful when friends who work in video production need soundtracks.. That's actually how I made most of my money from music :D Lesson: Don't throw away any stuff you make, even the 'bad' stuff can be useful in the future. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 3:35pm |
 Coolness: 159095 | Originally Posted By BLISSS
Oh yeah I forgot to add, for the hate I apprently inspire from certain DJS on here, I'd say they are mainly djs that have not been very successful (UFot, Host One, Jeepee, Clown etc..) Oh God. When was DJing about success ? I respect all these DJs you mentioned because they actually don't give a fuck about success, that's not why they're doing it. They do it for the love, for the fun of it, not for the goddam prestige you so aggressively plug on this board each opportunity you've got. NO ONE is jealous of your so-called success, dude. No fucking one. No one on here religiously goes to all your nights, events or - *sigh* - studies your career. No DJ on here actually compares themselves to you. None. Why ? Because every DJ I know, including you, is doing his own thing. No DJ I know wants to follow in another DJs footsteps. To be inspired by one ? Sure. To want to BE like another DJ ? Fuck no. No DJ I know wants to be DJ Bliss # 2. Jealousy isn't the problem here. I don't even have to say what is. In fact, we're counting the days until you get successful enough to move to Miami or something and leave this city for good. So a big muthafuckin' BIG UP to Ufot, Host 1, Jeepee, Clown and all those you so graciously call "haters" by implying they are jealous nobodies wanting to be as "successful" as you, to all those DJ who don't give a fuck about the money they've made off it, how many girls DJing supposedly got them, how many years they've been doing it, how many fucking books they've read on the subject and how many bookings they had this year ('cause they know "quality, not quantity")... to all THOSE DJs who actually made it as GOOD DJs. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 3:55pm |
| Coolness: 201200 | I don't think bliss is trying to impress anyone, he is just trying to demonstrate how you can actually make money dj'ing.
It's the same thing with music, photos, or any other art. If someone is asking you to shoot a photo a certain way, and they are paying you, you should try to please to client as best you can while injecting some of your personal style into it. If someone commissions a painting, same thing, you do something that pleases them while injecting your unique style. A 'successful' DJ does the same thing, he plays what pleases people who go out to buy 10$ drinks in some basement while injecting his personal style. If someone commissions a portrait, you don't paint abstract gibberish. It doesn't mean you are compromising your art if you are pleasing people who pay you good money. It just means you have good business skills. Now granted, if you are NOT being paid, by all means, play whatever you want. That's what I do. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 4:12pm |
 Coolness: 282430 | Scott, dont be so gullible. Have you met anyone in this city who actually lives off their DJ'ing?
Or claims they do, like Bliss has? He isn't fucking Angel Moraes! lol He literally has one song he's produced  , there's no
fucking way a guy like Subtone (20 or so VINYL releases) makes less than this tortoise, wake up. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JEE3.14_agricole replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 4:16pm |
| Coolness: 107210 | Only thing that got me into Djing is the luv of music, to get involved in the mtl scene and have the opportunity to make people discover music and dance to it.
Production, now THAT is a different ballpark. IF i invest myself into it eventually to a point where i put alot of time and efforts into it i will most likely want to make $$ out of and will take a bit more seriously (not that i dont take mixing seriously, but i do it for fun) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 4:17pm |
| Coolness: 282430 | Yeh, you make 2000$ a month playing other peoples music. SURE you do pal. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» crimson replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 4:46pm |
 Coolness: 66400 | Everyone just wants to be ballin.... it's ok. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 5:04pm |
 Coolness: 76685 | It's very likely he's telling the truth though man, you make way more money playing gigs, as a DJ or live act, touring, or what have you then you ever will off of your productions. Especially if you have an agent, a label that fronts you cash (which you have to make back) or any sort of A&R taking your publishing profits... and if you don't, you usually have to work so hard to get your record to sell, only to get what you should have made in one month only after several. I'm not saying I have tons of experience with this, but I am writing pretty experimental and inaccessible music and I know friends even in this scene who make tons off of overseas gigs but have sold basically nothing in terms of albums. You can't deny that people make money off of gigs, especially people who have a good deal of presence in the scene on a regular basis.
I also don't like it when Bliss essentially brags about how successful he is but that's a personality thing, not a career thing. He's the least humble DJ I know of, and it's a detriment to his reputation as far as I'm concerned. Take someone like Recoil who's old school but who isn't a braggart, and you get an example of the nice guy + good DJ mix. Also Bliss for the record anything said on here about you has to do with retorting your blatantly egotistical threads that go on about how you have the only formula for success. You do, of course, realize that many people have come across their success in many different ways, and that what works for you might not for the next guy. If you could be humble enough to accept that you are where you are as a result of a combination of luck and dare I say it skill, (and I've got my own ideas of how much knowing the right people and being at the right place at the right time was involved), you'd have people loving you up over here. Too late for that now, but it could have been. However as far as your sets go you play the crowd to a degree that some might consider opportunistic. You'll drop anything as long as it works, rather than saying "I am pushing this particular sound" as many of the trendsetters do... and well, a lot of people call that selling out. I doubt I'll get a civilized response for this but I have to say it's weird that you haven't yet talked about a single artist or track that I haven't heard of in the mainstream press, even if they were underground at some point. You haven't really enlightened anyone to anything new either which throws your statement that you research 5-6 hours per day into question. There are styles of music that you are outright ignorant about (esp. rap and hip-hop), and others that you won't even inform yourself about enough to be able to critique them in any useful way (basically anything your internet foes like, incl. hardcore, hardtek, breakcore, and some styles of drum and bass). But somehow you've created this online persona of the know-it-all old-schooler and you seem to agonize any time that persona is threatened. Get over it, it's just a forum, and people are inevitably going to argue with you. Especially if you're pompous. Am I right? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 5:07pm |
| Coolness: 282430 | qft^ |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 5:26pm |
| Coolness: 159095 | + 9000 LukePeril for uses of the word "pompous", "egotistical" and "humble", all words I've used to describe him in the past that have, oh wouldn't you know it, resurfaced again today ( and will most likely resurface again in the future ).
Btw, just like DJing, not because you've been paid to drive a, say, delivery van for years means you're necessarily a good driver or an example to follow. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 5:28pm |
| Coolness: 76685 | All these points these days... can I use those to buy like, a computer that isn't broken, or trade in for food stamps, or like, a unicorn horn or something? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 5:39pm |
 Coolness: 86480 | Originally Posted By HOST.WUN
Yeh, you make 2000$ a month playing other peoples music. SURE you do pal. well.. some people do.. my friend in Hamilton who I've known for ages... he started spinning hip hop in 1991, and I met him in 95 he was always regarded as one of the very best hip hop DJs - played on campus at Mcmaster and had a long-running repsected radio show ...but like many people considered 'one of the best' in an underground music scene, he wasnt really getting paid for that recognition.. hip hop in Hamilton is a tough grimey scene, and was really tough back in the mid 90s, so it was hard for him, cuz he isn't some scumbag gangsta.. he's more of a chill conscious hiphop type guy but anyway he slowly carved out a name for himself and maneuvered into the best gigs, so by around 2003 or so he was making about between 2 - 3000 a month, playing top- 40 house, hiphop & RnB on Friday and Saturday night events every weekend 9now he plays a lot of electro-house and mashups or whatever) but he was getting mailed a lot of the top-40 club music on promo anyway, so it wasnt costing him anything. and he was living at home, so no rent, so he took the money he was making from those gigs and sunk it into throwing underground hip hop events so he's booked Sadat X, Kid Koala, DJ Premier and the DMC championships, Sean Pryce, Scratch BAstid, Peanut Butter Wolf...and a bunch of other great acts that I am forgetting right now so I think he is a good example of someone who has made a living off it as a hustler - (for the last 12 years that has been his sole income) and still maintained underground hip hop cred as well not easily done though... that's been a real grind for him |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 5:50pm |
| Coolness: 76685 | See this is what I was waiting for. My man Recoil comes forward and tells it like it is, without sinking to needing to talk about himself or against others. Just the facts. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 5:56pm |
| Coolness: 159095 | I was just about to post that, despite some obvious P.R.ing to do, Recoil's friend probably doesn't go around saying he's one of the best DJs in the scene and that all those who dislike him are just jealous of his skills. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 6:00pm |
| Coolness: 201200 | how many people who are offended by bliss are in any position to do anything to him at all? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» A.Singleton replied on Fri May 7, 2010 @ 6:19pm |
 Coolness: 33925 | Maybe these djs/producers are actually producing/practicing right now instead of whining over a board and fueling the drama.
Juste dememe. |
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