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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 4:16am |
 Coolness: 93495 | I think people break their word for one of 3 reasons:
1) They don't respect you. Simple as that. If they break their word, its because they don't give enuf of a shit about doing it. They're either self-centered, immature, using you, or a mix of the three. 2) The two of you are tight, so you can take minor liberties with each other cuz both you know that if things ever got fucked up, you'd back each other up til the end. And in this case, you know if they break their word, no disrespect was intended, so there is no real disrespect. If the little things are bothering you, let them know and they'll fix it. 3) There was a trade off btwn 2 of more choices, and the other party is more important to them or the promise they made to the other party is more important. I used to do #1 a fair bit between 14-19; I look back at it, and it was immaturity more than anything else. Starting at around 20, I think I grew up. The biggest difference is that now, if I don't respect someone, or have lost respect for them, I'll never make a word with them to begin with anymore. Thus Im never in a situation to break that word. If you don't have my respect, Im never going to promise you anything, because Id rather not deal with you at all than make a promise to you. Its that simple. The hardest is distinguishing between 1 and 3, and then deciding on what to do if it is number 3. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 6:10am |
 Coolness: 108805 | Originally Posted By GAMOS
The biggest difference is that now, if I don't respect someone, or have lost respect for them, I'll never make a word with them to begin with anymore. Thus Im never in a situation to break that word. If you don't have my respect, Im never going to promise you anything, because Id rather not deal with you at all than make a promise to you. Its that simple. Perhaps you should reread this, it contradict itself because if I liked you as it stand, you wouldn't because a friend: a friend is someone that I can count on, thus will make commitments (an obviously is reciprocal). |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» puresexmegs replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 3:57pm |
 Coolness: 48730 | You can have riends and not respect them a damn bit. They can be the people you go to , to have a good time, nothing serious. Just fun.
They can eb that person you can never hold a serious conversation with, someone you cant share a secret with because they will blab, someone that hurt you once in the past , your working on mending but feel you can never trust that person again. They can also be people you just recently met, dont know all that well and still building a respect for that person. Friendships are like boyfriends/girlfriends , they can be a bitch, they can be confusing and a hell of alot of work, but the good ones are for life. A good example is social networks like facebook that show people with over 1,000 friends. Now how many of these supposed friends are business contacts, aquaintances etc. and how many are the friends that you call, go over and hang out with, confide in, share special moments with. But many people say these friends on there list are each and everyone of them a dear friend Then Id like to ask those people, how many of those 1,000 people on your list would you trust your life with? A real friend you respect, you would allow them to hold your life in their hands. Thats real trst and respect. I understand what gamos is saying. People I dont respect I never make a promise, I never give my word on anything. Bad friendships are like the game Jenga. A few fuck ups, a little one by one can make the whole friendship foundation crash and then how can you respect them after that? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» raisinlove replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 4:41pm |
 Coolness: 62950 | Originally Posted By BASDINI
see i don't like that cause i see honesty as something out in the world and not (just) in your head, it's about what you DO not what you FEEL. But religious people believe their shit to be real-world facts, not just some abstract thought. They truly believe deep down that they will literaly live forever because they love jesus. That's what faith is. I mean, I believe in the vacuum of space with all my heart yet I havent been there to experience it myself, I trust the science. Religions just stretch this to absurd extremes. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 4:55pm |
 Coolness: 282455 | Originally Posted By PURESEXMEGS
You can have riends and not respect them a damn bit. They can be the people you go to , to have a good time, nothing serious. Just fun. They can eb that person you can never hold a serious conversation with, someone you cant share a secret with because they will blab, someone that hurt you once in the past , your working on mending but feel you can never trust that person again. They can also be people you just recently met, dont know all that well and still building a respect for that person. Friendships are like boyfriends/girlfriends , they can be a bitch, they can be confusing and a hell of alot of work, but the good ones are for life. A good example is social networks like facebook that show people with over 1,000 friends. Now how many of these supposed friends are business contacts, aquaintances etc. and how many are the friends that you call, go over and hang out with, confide in, share special moments with. But many people say these friends on there list are each and everyone of them a dear friend Then Id like to ask those people, how many of those 1,000 people on your list would you trust your life with? A real friend you respect, you would allow them to hold your life in their hands. Thats real trst and respect. I understand what gamos is saying. People I dont respect I never make a promise, I never give my word on anything. Bad friendships are like the game Jenga. A few fuck ups, a little one by one can make the whole friendship foundation crash and then how can you respect them after that? so you basically just said - you can lie to anyone who isn't a real friend. thanks for trying to make everyone here as stupid as you. and here, I picked out a starter kit for you since you obviously won't get on it [ www.hookedonphonics.com ] |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 5:19pm |
| Coolness: 108805 | puresexmegs well for me there's level of companionship: penpal > acquaintance > good acquaintance > friend. why on earth would you even bring social network "friend" in this thread ?! even retards likely know they're no friends. Update » DynV wrote on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 5:22pm I think raisinlove is right, if they were hooked on lie detectors, I'm sure they'd pass it with flying colors ; so they're not lying, they just don't know better. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 5:19pm |
| Coolness: 282455 | Originally Posted By DYNV
even retards right, she's one level below retard, so there's your answer. 
she will bring up shit that doesn't make sense, has nothing to do with the point at hand, repeat the same points and will spell it all terribly. Hence why she should never speak or type seriously on any forum. Especially on subjects beyond her grade 2 level of thinking. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 5:29pm |
| Coolness: 108805 | Originally Posted By PURESEXMEGS
A good example is social networks like facebook [..] how many are the friends that you [...] share special moments with. I reread her message and OMG I immidiately thought of masturbation and a bit more thinking of this: 
From South Park season 3 episode 8 [ www.tvrage.com ] Meanwhile Stan's dad and Kyle's dad share an intimate moment in the hot tub. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 5:45pm |
| Coolness: 93495 | Originally Posted By DYNV
Perhaps you should reread this, it contradict itself because if I liked you as it stand, you wouldn't because a friend: a friend is someone that I can count on, thus will make commitments (an obviously is reciprocal). Im talking about the various people in your life, not only about friends. Earlier in life, I used to make promises to people I didn't really hold in high esteem. I thought it made life easier. But it doesn't. Now I know better. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 6:04pm |
| Coolness: 282455 | Originally Posted By GAMOS
Earlier in life, I used to make promises to people I didn't really hold in high esteem. That still made YOU the dishonest one, BTW. It's not their fault you judged them before they could ever prove their loyalty to you. And it's good to see you treating people with a bit more respect now a days. Considering these "strangers" never really did anything to deserve being lied to Update » greatjob wrote on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 7:19pm and now the threats begin
puresexmegs writes: Its called typos not mispelling, also you dont even know me, never met me, or know my mrals. SO shut the fuck up. How much education do you have, have you finished any degrees? I dont basically say things, dont try to twist my words. Your definately the person that if i see you at any party im attending in mtl ill straight up punch you in the face. Im not basically talking or implying Im promising. Your the ONLY one that bashes on me constantly and you stalk my webpage Just shut the fuck up and leave me alone Update » greatjob wrote on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 7:20pm you're like a riled up 6 year old, it's amazing.
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 10:10pm |
 Coolness: 145200 | let's all come down here, we are trying to have a sophisticated discussion about honesty and the nature of friendship
we should return to the question, which is "how should one live" the answer i believe is "in a civilized way" |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» crimson replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 10:17pm |
 Coolness: 66425 | Originally Posted By HOST.WUN
That still made YOU the dishonest one, BTW. It's not their fault you judged them before they could ever prove their loyalty to you. And it's good to see you treating people with a bit more respect now a days. Considering these "strangers" never really did anything to deserve being lied to Careful she'll put gum in your hair and give you a nasty playground name! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 10:18pm |
| Coolness: 282455 | dude this girl sticks out like a sore thumb, it hurts to read her fucking posts. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Mon Mar 8, 2010 @ 10:58pm |
 Coolness: 86505 | Originally Posted By BASDINI
we should return to the question, which is "how should one live" the answer i believe is "in a civilized way" hmmmm... . I would have to first know.. what you mean exactly by "a civilized way" ? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Tue Mar 9, 2010 @ 12:09am |
| Coolness: 93495 | Originally Posted By HOST.WUN
That still made YOU the dishonest one, BTW. It's not their fault you judged them before they could ever prove their loyalty to you. Sometimes, sure. Other times, it was them. And often it was both of us. Im aware of things I've done wrong. What can I say, its part of growing up. You feel bad about it, but you can't do anything about it now execpt to learn from it. Anywyas, this thread isnt about me. Its about people and their word...my point was that people are more likely to keep their word when they have a strong amount of mutual respect for the other party. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» raisinlove replied on Tue Mar 9, 2010 @ 11:01am |
| Coolness: 62950 | We musn't forget that emotions distort the way we perceive others. That famous expression "blind love" is such a great example of how dishonest we came become to ourselves. Update » raisinlove wrote on Tue Mar 9, 2010 @ 11:02am arrg, I meant "of how disonest we can become to ourselves"
fuck it, i can't spell this morning... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Tue Mar 9, 2010 @ 11:27am |
| Coolness: 86505 | Originally Posted By RAISINLOVE
We musn't forget that emotions distort the way we perceive others. That famous expression "blind love" is such a great example of how dishonest we came become to ourselves. actually the expression is "love is blind" ;) it's taken from Shakespeare. but ya true. of course emotions distort perception. but all perception is subjective anyway |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» raisinlove replied on Tue Mar 9, 2010 @ 4:23pm |
| Coolness: 62950 | my bad, but yeah, you my meaning... people can actually convince themselves of lies when they can't or won't cope with reality, then be just as convinced when expressing it to others. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Tue Mar 9, 2010 @ 4:28pm |
| Coolness: 86505 | sure! people can stick their head in the sand and hide from certain realities... rather than confronting something ugly and maybe having some unpleasant encounter, they just lie to themselves or others.
some people do that all their life! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice replied on Tue Mar 9, 2010 @ 4:31pm |
 Coolness: 76255 | The visionary lies to himself, the liar only to others
- Nietzsche |
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