English Vs French
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:10pm |
 Coolness: 166645 | btw, Daf, english muffins are also good with just jam/margarine (since you were asking)
but yeah, they have to be toasted. i bet english muffins exist 'cause someone fucked a muffin recipe and said "hey, these aren't too bad either" :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:18pm |
 Coolness: 131695 | yea can someone explain to me how the got from the "whitey puck" english muffins linked to the "mushroom cloud" generic muffin .
what ? cuz its small ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:19pm |
| Coolness: 166645 | it has the same kind of 'air bubbles' type texture...and i'm sure at least one of the ingredients is the same :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 4:37pm |
| Coolness: 131695 | the "bubbles" ! wow , i wasnt expecting that one. impressive !
so common ingredient is air i gess ? :P i never got an english muffin receipe , thanks , now i wanna bake one just for fun. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 6:00pm |
 Coolness: 86605 | Originally Posted By BLISSS
Thats cool Recoil, I was talking about 3 centuries ago though I'm talking about the IRA and all that terrorist stuff I just remember a lot of bullshit back in the 80s with bombs going off all over in Ireland and people dying and the Protestants and Catholics having separate neighborhoods where neither could go without getting attacked What was that all about then? Sounds like a civil war to me alright Mr Bliss. waiting for a friend from Ottawa, so I took the time to shed some light on this. you'd better read it! =) it is a lot of writing, with some youtube docs posted after.unfortunately there are no short answers for the questions you asked. I actually really enjoy writing - especially about history and world issues, so it's all fun and games to me. I used to make good cash writing slacker students' essays for them in high school and university. It is a good exercise to keep the mind sharp. so... may I just say - when you write "bombs going off all over Ireland.." - This was not the case. Except for 2 major incidents in the Irish Republic in 1974, almost all the terrorism took place in Northern Ireland and England. even though you might find all this preamble boring, it is pointless to talk about the recent terrorism without understanding how things got that way... the modern IRA as we have come to know it did not just appear overnight... --- the Scottish were subjugated by the English they were then brought over as soldiers in the English Army to subjugate the Irish. As a reward, they were given the land of the Irish natives. Protestant = Anglo/Scots, Catholic = native Irish classic imperial strategy of 'divide and conquer' this was the the start of a very terrible time for the Irish.. literally millions were slaughtered or forced into slavery in the Caribbean, never to return. soooo... flash forward to the 20th century during World War I, England was busy fighting the Axis, and Irish nationalists saw an opportunity to overthrow their English rulers so these freedom fighters - the Irish Republican Army, or I.R.A. - fought and won a guerrilla war against the English in Ireland, as I mentioned before. so they came up with a treaty agreement. the English would grant independence to the Irish Free State, providing they keep the 6 northern counties where their pro-English Protestants were in the majority many IRA fighters were opposed to this. they wanted all Ireland to be for the Irish, and saw any concession to the English as unacceptable. so their leader Michael Collins, thinking it was a realistic proposal, agreed to this treaty. The island was partitioned into the Irish Free State, and those 6 northern counties became Northern Ireland, or Ulster. the border was very deliberately drawn around Catholic Nationalist strongholds - like my dad's hometown, Monaghan - to ensure they could not be part of the democratic process in this new state. This state would remain a holding of Britain. This is called "gerrymandering" and was first coined in northern ireland. Israel is also quite notorious for this practice. It creates an illusion of adhering to democratic principles when in truth it is doing anything but. So now there was this new border and people had to flee from both sides for their lives. A lot of ethnic cleansing went on on both sides. so the IRA now split - the pro-treaty IRA men became the official army of the new Free State, whereas the anti-treaty IRA felt that the pro-treaty forces had betrayed their cause, and thus must be treated as the enemy so, they had a nasty civil war - Irish Catholics VS Irish Catholics the Free State won, and the defeated anti-treaty IRA became an outlawed organization and went underground. Aside from a few low-key campaigns along the border and in Liverpool, they were now widely considered to be a spent force. so now you have Northern Ireland. There was still a Catholic minority living in this Northern Irish state, but even moreso than before, they were marginalized to a second-class downtrodden existence. they had little access to decent housing or jobs and were subject to all kinds of abuse at the hands of the Protestant police force, who despised them. it was very similar, once again, to the life of a black person in the deep south in the 40s or 50s. these Protestant Orange Order men are the same Anglo-Scots who ran big business in Quebec in the 20th century. These were very bigoted people, so as a poor Catholic, your chances of upward mobility would be very limited. In northern Ireland, however, it was much more severe. so, inspired by Martin Luther King's civil rights marches, Catholics took to the streets and had peaceful marches demanding their hardships be addressed. The reaction from the establishment and from Protestant mobs was brutal. Catholics were attacked, murdered, and their neighbourhoods destroyed by firebombs, while Northern Irish police did nothing, and often helped the mobs. The Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland were in very dire straits the British army was called in to protect them. However, once there, they did much to antagonize the Catholics as they hunted for IRA gunmen in their communities Innocent Catholics found their doors kicked in, and were beaten, rounded up, and jailed without charge - this was called Internment. in 1972, a Catholic peace march was held in the city of Derry, Northern Ireland, to protest internment. British paratroopers attacked the marchers, and opened fire with high calibre rifles. 13 unarmed civilians were shot dead on on the spot, with one more dying later. This became known as Bloody Sunday. after this day, the IRA came back with a vengeance, and Irish Catholic kids were lining up to join the fight againt the British army. Thus began some really vicious inner city warfare. so now onto what you were asking about - all the IRA terrorism, etc etc. *really* interesting stuff the IRA became very good at what it did, and was regarded by other rebel movements and Army intelligence as the best guerrilla army in the world. Some of their operations are pretty spectacular, some of them are just savage and pointlessly cruel. but the entire situation was brutal on all sides. rather than writing any more, I highly recommend these documentaries. the Behind the Mask was on PBS back in 1997 and while it is quite long, it is really really good. The other one is good but is obviously biased towards the IRA - but has a lot of great footage. These will do a much better job at explaining what happened in Northern Ireland and why. IRA documentary Behind the Mask this one here has some very informative quick facts posted. turn off the volume though to skip the annoying song - a British Army base occupying South Armagh -  Update » recoil wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 6:16pm note - Brits were not fighting the "Axis" - that was the next world war |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 6:10pm |
 Coolness: 93595 | lol...recoil. If its over 2 paragraphs, no one is going to read it. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 6:19pm |
| Coolness: 166645 | hey, i read it all...mighty informative!
then again, my roots are in great britain...or whatever you want to call it :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 6:23pm |
| Coolness: 86605 | oh I don't care. somebody might. I do it more for my own interest, and if one person reads it - cool!
I actually think it's a shame people have no stamina for reading. I used to devour books when i was a kid. Back in the day that was the only way you could research something. reading serious fiction and non-fiction makes your mind very strong, especially if you get started at a very young age. If you replace books with TV and internet, kids grow up having the attention span and intellect of a Jack Russell Terrier. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 7:59pm |
 Coolness: 129820 | Originally Posted By RECOIL
may I just say - when you write "bombs going off all over Ireland.." - This was not the case. Except for 2 major incidents in the Irish Republic in 1974, almost all the terrorism took place in Northern Ireland and England. Northern Ireland isn't in Ireland? Originally Posted By RECOIL Protestant = Anglo/Scots, Catholic = native Irish So the war was between the "Irish" Anglo-Scots and the "Irish" Got it |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:16pm |
| Coolness: 86605 | ^^^
lol. apparently not. did you read past the first few sentences? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gamos replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:19pm |
| Coolness: 93595 | Originally Posted By RECOIL
^^^ lol. apparently not. did you read past the first few sentences? lol I told you :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:21pm |
| Coolness: 86605 | zing! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:24pm |
| Coolness: 166645 | well, i read the whole thing Liam :)
do i get a cookie? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:26pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:27pm |
| Coolness: 166645 | yay...i gots a cookie!
 Update » Nathan wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:29pm what kind of cookie has fuckin' pretzels on it?!
think i'll just keep he information, you can have the cookie back! lmao! Update » Nathan wrote on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:30pm oh, man, still laughing.,..those are the most un-appetizing cookies i've ever seen... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:30pm |
| Coolness: 129820 | Originally Posted By RECOIL
^^^ lol. apparently not. did you read past the first few sentences? To be honest I really liked the pictures ;) I'll just take your word for it |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:30pm |
| Coolness: 86605 | the best part is they have pretzel antlers. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:31pm |
| Coolness: 131695 | awsome post recoil.
fuck anybody who cant read more than 100 char. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:33pm |
| Coolness: 129820 | thats like 99% of the board you're insulting Cutter |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Fri Feb 6, 2009 @ 8:35pm |
| Coolness: 86605 | merci Cutterhead!
and yes Na - I googled vegan cookies and found those reindeer pretzel cookies so grotesque I had to share =) |
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