Obama Just Won The Nomination
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 11:41am |
 Coolness: 159130 | Originally Posted By STRIK_IX
A simple STFU you self righteous sack of shit woulda been enough if you ask me... But you had to do it the hard way =P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 11:44am |
 Coolness: 158245 | Our brains are too primitive. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GODISDEAD_ replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 11:45am |
 Coolness: 77300 | righteous sack of shit...
lol |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Shindy replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 11:46am |
 Coolness: 171850 | Originally Posted By Version2minus1 Originally Posted By Strik_IX A simple STFU you self righteous sack of shit woulda been enough if you ask me... But you had to do it the hard way =P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Strik_IX replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 11:48am |
 Coolness: 88650 | He totally skipped mine :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 11:48am |
| Coolness: 159130 | Well, it works both ways. If he doesn't read it, he doesn't preach by example. Having superior knowledge means you still learn on a daily basis.
People who pretend they know all there is to know and do not benefit from learning anymore do not get my respect. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GODISDEAD_ replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 11:51am |
| Coolness: 77300 | Originally Posted By VERSION2MINUS1 WELL, IT WORKS BOTH WAYS. IF HE DOESN'T READ IT, HE DOESN'T PREACH BY EXAMPLE. HAVING SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE MEANS YOU STILL LEARN ON A DAILY BASIS. PEOPLE WHO PRETEND THEY KNOW ALL THERE IS TO KNOW AND DO NOT BENEFIT FROM LEARNING ANYMORE DO NOT GET MY RESPECT.
Its called ignorance. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Horus replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 12:32pm |
 Coolness: 40760 | Don't worry I read it all.
VERSION2MINUS1 at least proposes a respectable answer. The others "fuck yourself douche" fly low. No names mentioned here... :) They are simply ignored. On to the more important stuff: Originally Posted By VERSION2MINUS1
Horus, dude, a couple of things : - You and me both come from a different generation. We've seen, experienced and lived a moreless different reality than that of today. You said it yourself : in 1963, it was totally different. Same thing could be said about the 80s btw, back when WE were kids. I dunno about you but back when I became 18, I STILL didn't look at our world in an accurately critical way. And when I did, I barely had any experience to back this up with. Back then, I was more concerned about college, getting my own place and going out to bars to flirt with chicks than being mature and, say, seeing the economical implications of capitalism and consumerism on a global scale. - It's not rocket science : you have to realize being young today is NOT the same thing as when we were young. The world is different. - Your life experience made you analytical like you are today. You CANNOT expect everyone to be like this, and most certainly not everyone our age is as smart as you claim to be. Why aren't you addressing these people ? Are they too old for you to care about them ? Is it because you prefer to instill your knowledge on younger people because they are more gullible and can be somewhat shapen like clay ? It certainly feels like you're playing cult leader, taking advantage of the weaker. That isn't acceptable. - Even, by some obscure miracle, you convince us and we see your ways, you have affected 0.000000001% of our society today. Have you considered the stats ? Do you know how many people you have to " convert " ? I'm sorry but it looks like megalomania to me. And if you think this bunch will pass on your " knowledge " to others, you are so fucking grossly mistaken. WHat you do here will end here. You'll have to repeat the process all over again EVERYWHERE IN YOUR ENTOURAGE. Better quit your day job and become a full-time preacher. And I'm not talking about being a teacher. You aren't hired to make them understand your world. - Young people do NOT, I repeat, do NOT question what was there before them. How many times have I heard someone under 20 discuss the fact that baby-boomers screwed it up for them today ? Once, maybe ? Most will listen to it if I explain it to them and will invariably shrug. Why ? What do they care ? They have to deal with what they have in front of them NOW, not look for reasons why it is what it is today by looking BEHIND. That's YOUR tedious job. And considering you understand that previous generations wrecked this one, what does that change ? We finally acknowledge who the culprits are but it still doesn't make it anywhere near easier to deal will stuff today, does it ? - Most people, like me ( perhaps ), are decently intelligent around here, we just behave like we are stupid. Yes, I admit, it is incredibly liberating. You should try it sometimes. It's called " having fun ", something you have set aside in your never-ending obsession to overanalyze every nook and cranny of the human psyche. - Your ideas, thought and opinions are your own. You have every right to voice them, considering the amount of work you've put into that. What you CANNOT do is impose them on people. You just perpetrate what failed previous generations have done in the past. Mass brainwashing and taking advantage of the weak and confused. Don't kid yourself and just look at how the clergy was conducting its business 20 years ago. The circle continues. - Maybe you should reconsider your methods. I don't think people will take it lightly when you get pretentious about " the err of your ways ", " you cannot understand " and " I understand the world in a way YOU never will ". Bringing everyone to your level should work wonders. That would require you to dismount your hypothetical high horse though. You want to convince the astray ? You have to speak in a language that can be understood. Saying " I could explain but you wouldn't understand " just makes everyone want to take a shovel to your face. Consider this : why should we invest in reading all your babbling for 16 pages, curious about your arguments, only to have them ultimately explained with " I'll stop here because your feeble brains cannot comprehend ". We get no closure AND we get insulted in the process. Some technique you got there, for such superior intellect. - Your posts are sometimes the equivalent of going to water slides with a bunch of friends and having one guy talk about Harper and the way he run things all day. It is clear we won't invite you to any parties anytime soon. I KNOW you're not like that in person but, dude, the way you behave here sometimes does not make us want to look past that. The core of things is this: You speak of ideas and opinions and of methods. Of convincing and reasoning. My case is that the very concepts with which modern man thinks hobbles him mentally and of course in every other way. So. "Understanding" is a process by which the right concepts are put together to symbolize a particular meaning. I state that the very concepts which are fed us from the earliest age are absolutely flawed and as such render us fully incapable of grasping REALITY. We reside in a fiction which we like to call "our own reality" but it is nothing but a fiction. And so long as we keep on thinking the thoughts force-fed us from the earliest age (yes, it was all in good intent and unbeknownst the toxic nature of these thoughts and very concepts with which we 'think') man is doomed to living the shadow of a life. I know, for I have done this process of destroying the terms of thought. No, it has nothing to do about drugs. I'm not saying anything good OR bad against drugs. They just exist, what you do with them is the same as with everything else. You can ram a crowd of pedestrians with a car, does that make all cars evil? Obviously not. Everything else is the same, it's in what you do with it. So anyway. I have proven that concepts as a means of thinking are intrinsically flawed and create a disgusting mental prison in which, no matter what you do, you end up ensuring that whatever is wrong with this world GROWS. So basically no one needs convincing. Everyone needs UNconvincing. I am not trying to pass on "knowledge", for whatever I say gets interpreted and converted into concepts first, so any additional value is then lost, but then the words are made to fit into terms that correspond with the established basis. I am looking to younger people because they tend to possess more of the strength required to really change things. Sadly I would have to befriend them at early teen-age, since pride, the enemy of man, grows to its paroxism around 20 or so years of age. It is best I intervene before then, and before too much damage is done. Too much BRAINWASHING because that is exactly what our parents do to us, then teachers, then the media and so on. Forcing terms of thought into our minds, infecting them with their putrid lie-stuff. So actually I try to reach the STRONGER not the weaker as you pretend. The stronger ones are usually younger and then this system which undermines identity weakens them until there is just about nothing left, around the age of 20. People whose minds operates outside of these norms has an extremely powerful effect on everyone around them. Nothing in particular needs to be done. Just by their presence, over time, the effect will grow on the collective. That will be the birth the new humanity, while the current one dives into its own hell. And don't worry about me having fun. I have a hell of a lot of fun and I take 1/10th the drugs that the average person on this site takes. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DonLouis replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 12:58pm |
 Coolness: 84095 | back to Obama, I have a feeling he'll get murdered, maybe even today :O |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 12:58pm |
 Coolness: 106125 | Originally Posted By VERSION2MINUS1
Originally Posted By databoy
Actually, if his whole point was to get the "kids" riled up, i think he's been doing a pretty good job. What I fail to understand is, if this were the case, what purpose does " getting the kids riled up " serve exactly ? Why not stop at being a straight up troll and getting EVERYONE riled up or no one at all. Why getting exclusively just the kids riled up ? Wait. I just realized : can this be categorized as elitism ? Hmmmmmmmm * scratches back of head * I was using "kids" here as a figure of speech because so much importance seems to be given to age in this thread but in fact, i was referring to anyone who responds with hostility to his comments. Most of the peoples on this board are adults in there 20's. On the whole acid/coke thing, i believe this analogy to be a gross exaggeration and misinterpretation. At any given time between 1968 and 1990 it was a minority of peoples that either took acid or coke. When we watch the footage, we are under the impression that everyone in the 70's was a hippie but nothing could be farthest from the truth. 10% would be an extremely generous number. Most of the peoples were conservative middle of the road automates just doing there jobs and not involving themselves any more than they have to (sound familiar?). No mater how painful it may seem, these "Horus the great" posts get peoples thinking/reacting and clarifying there own ideas. ...and thats a beautiful thing. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Shindy replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 1:08pm |
| Coolness: 171850 | Originally Posted By HORUS TOO MUCH BRAINWASHING BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT OUR PARENTS DO TO US, THEN TEACHERS, THEN THE MEDIA AND SO ON. FORCING TERMS OF THOUGHT INTO OUR MINDS, INFECTING THEM WITH THEIR PUTRID LIE-STUFF.
I'm sorry but isn't that EXACTLY what you are trying to do here with us poor little kids? You try to force feed us your so called knowledge of the world... and YOUR opinions. Not even taking in consideration that we may have our own, and that we may be right, and you, wrong. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GODISDEAD_ replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 1:12pm |
| Coolness: 77300 | sti qcest drama. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Shindy replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 1:13pm |
| Coolness: 171850 | Bah oui :P chaque fois que Horus post en quelque part, c'est pour rabaisser toute le monde!!! Donc automatiquement sa part du drama non :P
(voir page 3 ;) ) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 1:15pm |
| Coolness: 158245 | You tend to associate acid and liberal minds with hippies and figure that the percentage of hippies in the 60/70s totals the amount of acid consumed. I don't think that's right; conservatives were as well into drugs. Mister White America did take drugs.
Hell, the biggest consumers probably were the Hells, affiliated with Ken Kesley and his acid farms. Hells in the 60s and 70s, though outlaws of society, were as conservative as you can get. Most of them were as Republican as Cheney is today. The only difference being that they believed in a more tribal form of justice/laws. Still, biggest acid takers then :D. As for it being a gross exaggeration, it sure is. I don't think it would be fair to take a single paragraph of text on the subject and assume that it is my total, absolute opinion of the causes of the sudden change in ideologies of the people raised in that era. For the record, I would have no problem if Horus posted rational thoughts without going into his messiah complex. The whole explanation above could be summed as follows: "Since you were born, you have been taught the wrong things. Even if I explain the truth to you, you could not comprehend them because you do not have the basic tools to do so. However, I do and I will explain this to you and you will fail to understand them." I find that both extremely arrogant and pointless. If we don't have the tools to understand him and if he wants to be understood, he should provide the tools, not sermons about how better he is. It's fine to point and blame the establishment; he should instead write about what IS real. So far all I've seen is nay-saying. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 1:15pm |
| Coolness: 106125 | Why do any of you care? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» GODISDEAD_ replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 1:18pm |
| Coolness: 77300 | thats what im saying DataBoy
lol |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 1:19pm |
| Coolness: 158245 | Why do we post on ravewave? It's a discussion forum. If I came to any of your thread and told you relentlessly that you are a moron, would you not object or at the very least ask me why I keep insulting you?
If, instead of an explanation, I went on with entire texts of why your mama is so fat, would you not be upset? It's fine to shrug and move on but that's what a victim of bullying does and I am no victim. Horus, instead of actually delivering what he insists on believing is right, bullies. That is why I care. To not stand up against him is to accept that this man can insult me and get away with it. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Shindy replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 1:19pm |
| Coolness: 171850 | boredom I guess, plus he gets on my nerve bad...
Je sais pas pourquoi mais y me rappelle Michelle Richard!!! pis a m'énarve et donc lui aussi... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 1:21pm |
| Coolness: 158245 | Ironically enough, if Horus took a humble approach to his ideas and made threads that did not blatantly serve as an ego booster / cause to belittle everyone, I would most likely be a devout supporter. I am all for philosophical discussion. That is not, however, what Horus gives, not matter how hard he tries to make us believe. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice replied on Thu Jun 5, 2008 @ 1:23pm |
 Coolness: 76265 | honestly, i think "members" on here are over-reacting just a little bit... taking what other people say just a little to seriously...
anyho, obama for president is an truely historical moment for USA (and ultimately, for the world)... less then twenty years ago, an african american president wasnt even remotely possible... |
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