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Shit Pisses Me Off ..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Thu Oct 26, 2006 @ 5:01pm
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i've been past that point of tryin' to help any of 'em , i'm starving too sometimes dammit and i aint asking anyone for shit
I'm feeling screwed up right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Thu Oct 26, 2006 @ 5:04pm
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EXACTLY...ive earned my fucking way to this point, and no ones gonna take it from me...even if its a couple of pennies, they can fuck right off.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Thu Oct 26, 2006 @ 5:07pm
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i'm collecting those pennies for Alexis, he's into it already ..paper chaser ! everytime he sees change he's takin it away in his pig bank
I'm feeling screwed up right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» juju replied on Fri Oct 27, 2006 @ 8:32am
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the bum with no arm actually comes from a rich family and his sister keeps begging him to come back home, but for some reason he prefers to hang out in metro stations with no shirt on and pretend he's dying. Don't give any change to that motherfucker!
I'm feeling very good right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» regimental911 replied on Fri Oct 27, 2006 @ 8:43am
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i hate the pity tactic
I'm feeling new tunes up right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Fri Oct 27, 2006 @ 4:38pm
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bumbs can't possibly need the money that bad, fact is they are alive
Update » AlienZeD wrote on Fri Oct 27, 2006 @ 4:39pm
besides, money's not the answer anyway
I'm feeling sick right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Luna-1 replied on Fri Oct 27, 2006 @ 4:44pm
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serious fuck bum they could get out of it
I'm feeling dropping bombs right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» subfl0wer replied on Sat Oct 28, 2006 @ 1:21pm
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a lot of the bums were released from mental institutes because Quebec closed a lot of them down - and set them free on the streets. These people need serious help - maybe thats why they are so picky..they are human like all of us. But need special attention - aside fro mthe squeegee punks maybe....
I'm feeling fabulous right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» soyfunk replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 2:21am
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Originally Posted By JUJU

the bum with no arm actually comes from a rich family and his sister keeps begging him to come back home, but for some reason he prefers to hang out in metro stations with no shirt on and pretend he's dying. Don't give any change to that motherfucker!


don't know what that guys story really is...
all i know is that i used to hang out in that arcade that used to be next to chinatown and he'd come in a couple times a day on weekends with nothing but toonies and loonies, 60$ worth each time. he'd make less on weekdays (i was at that arcade alot)

i hung out with BC streetkids for a short while and saw what the older scene was like
although it was totally a glimps from the outside...
life on the street does suck
life draining if you been at it for a while
and the worst is it puts these people inside some sort of vortex that's difficult to get out of

recently coming back from a poor and corrupted country like Cambodia (or as i like to call it: SCAMBODIA) just two weeks ago
when you have nothing over there;
life REALLY fucken sucks but these people still find a way to keep on moving forward

then some turn to begging
a dependency is created but there's few options out of it right now


as much as i try to have compassion for everyone
i must say that people here Montreal have every ressource and means to get up on their feet
who dares disagree with me?

people complain that there's nothing but shitty jobs out there
but how else are you supposed to build your own?
not many people start off with executive hours and early retirements
quit whining and use these opportunities as stepping stones

handouts are cool every now and then
everyone, good people, and bad ones, need a break
but it's fucked up how so much people believe like everything is owed to them in this world

it's this security net and comfort zone that makes people give up so easily
why? maybe they didnt have a good families to teach them and remind them about the importance of hardships and struggles
I'm feeling homo right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 2:47am
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Originally Posted By SOYFUNK

as much as i try to have compassion for everyone
i must say that people here Montreal have every ressource and means to get up on their feet
who dares disagree with me?

...it's this security net and comfort zone that makes people give up so easily
why? maybe they didnt have a good families to teach them and remind them about the importance of hardships and struggles


You're absolutely right .
I'm feeling gassy... oooo right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 2:48am
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I've stated that in every thread about homelessness, I was on the street...I got off of it. I'm proof.
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» subfl0wer replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 9:10am
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Agreed.
Like I said before people can make a difference in their life if they really wanted to.
I'm feeling fabulous right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nellboy replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 12:27pm
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Originally Posted By __PHOENIX__ WHEN A HOMELESS PERSON ASKS YOU FOR CHANGE STOP AND USE REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY ON THEM.


what, ask THEM for change???

bad jokes aside though, I don't often give money to homeless people, and I gave up a long time ago on trying to help them... sometimes i engage in random acts of kindness but mostly i'm apathetic to their problems and to the problems of the world... it's not that i don't care, it's that i feel that all of the world's problems are too overwhelming and to indulge in trying to solve them would take too much from me and wouldn't yield the kind of results that I would want... i'm a little OCD about things and I know that when I start something, I can't stop, so solving my grievances with the world is one battle that I won't start...

I just concentrate on being nice to people and having a good time, as much as I can...
I'm feeling nostalgic for summer right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 12:44pm
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Originally Posted By NELLBOY
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY __PHOENIX__ WHEN A HOMELESS PERSON ASKS YOU FOR CHANGE STOP AND USE REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY ON THEM.
WHAT, ASK THEM FOR CHANGE??? BAD JOKES ASIDE THOUGH, I DON'T OFTEN GIVE MONEY TO HOMELESS PEOPLE, AND I GAVE UP A LONG TIME AGO ON TRYING TO HELP THEM... SOMETIMES I ENGAGE IN RANDOM ACTS OF KINDNESS BUT MOSTLY I'M APATHETIC TO THEIR PROBLEMS AND TO THE PROBLEMS OF THE WORLD... IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T CARE, IT'S THAT I FEEL THAT ALL OF THE WORLD'S PROBLEMS ARE TOO OVERWHELMING AND TO INDULGE IN TRYING TO SOLVE THEM WOULD TAKE TOO MUCH FROM ME AND WOULDN'T YIELD THE KIND OF RESULTS THAT I WOULD WANT... I'M A LITTLE OCD ABOUT THINGS AND I KNOW THAT WHEN I START SOMETHING, I CAN'T STOP, SO SOLVING MY GRIEVANCES WITH THE WORLD IS ONE BATTLE THAT I WON'T START... I JUST CONCENTRATE ON BEING NICE TO PEOPLE AND HAVING A GOOD TIME, AS MUCH AS I CAN...


First of all you took what I said completely out of context obviously omitting the purpose of the entire argument. Furthermore your statement couldn't be more hypocritical. You say that you're apathetic to problems then state that you care to fix them (which if you did, you'd act proactively instead of being a passive observer). Furthermore you go on to conclude that it's not (or shouldn't be) your personal responsability to help other and that you wouldn't sacrifice yourself because you feel the attempt is already defeated. You've passively chosen not to attempt anything whatsoever and use an apparent OCD condition as your scapegoat to carelessness which you yourself couldn't even diagnose (or have had diagnosed by a certified professional). So what's all this about being nice to people by neglecting help them?... You either you fear failure or care more about 'having a good time' which seems to be the personal agenda for most people who, unfortunately, are too selfish to even make an attempt to change things for the better, or even accept a single iota of accountability for society's misfortunes.
I'm feeling you up right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nellboy replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 3:19pm
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Originally Posted By __PHOENIX__ FIRST OF ALL YOU TOOK WHAT I SAID COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTEXT OBVIOUSLY OMITTING THE PURPOSE OF THE ENTIRE ARGUMENT. FURTHERMORE YOUR STATEMENT COULDN'T BE MORE HYPOCRITICAL. YOU SAY THAT YOU'RE APATHETIC TO PROBLEMS THEN STATE THAT YOU CARE TO FIX THEM (WHICH IF YOU DID, YOU'D ACT PROACTIVELY INSTEAD OF BEING A PASSIVE OBSERVER). FURTHERMORE YOU GO ON TO CONCLUDE THAT IT'S NOT (OR SHOULDN'T BE) YOUR PERSONAL RESPONSABILITY TO HELP OTHER AND THAT YOU WOULDN'T SACRIFICE YOURSELF BECAUSE YOU FEEL THE ATTEMPT IS ALREADY DEFEATED. YOU'VE PASSIVELY CHOSEN NOT TO ATTEMPT ANYTHING WHATSOEVER AND USE AN APPARENT OCD CONDITION AS YOUR SCAPEGOAT TO CARELESSNESS WHICH YOU YOURSELF COULDN'T EVEN DIAGNOSE (OR HAVE HAD DIAGNOSED BY A CERTIFIED PROFESSIONAL). SO WHAT'S ALL THIS ABOUT BEING NICE TO PEOPLE BY NEGLECTING HELP THEM?... YOU EITHER YOU FEAR FAILURE OR CARE MORE ABOUT 'HAVING A GOOD TIME' WHICH SEEMS TO BE THE PERSONAL AGENDA FOR MOST PEOPLE WHO, UNFORTUNATELY, ARE TOO SELFISH TO EVEN MAKE AN ATTEMPT TO CHANGE THINGS FOR THE BETTER, OR EVEN ACCEPT A SINGLE IOTA OF ACCOUNTABILITY FOR SOCIETY'S MISFORTUNES.


with all due respect mate... who the fuck are you to be telling me what i should and should not be doing?... Of course I care, and of course I give a shit... It's just that when I start, I can't stop, and it takes too much out of me... I learned this a long time ago... I do my best to be respectful to people that I meet and to make their lives a little better if they allow me to... but it annoys the fuck out of me when some self righteous person on the internet that I don't even know starts telling me that I should be living a better life... look after your own end of things and stop being so judgemental... everyone's got a story and you don't have half a clue of what mine is, so instead you fill in the gaps of the information you don't have and you reach wrong conclusions...

in other words, quit fuckin attacking me... you don't know the first thing about me
I'm feeling nostalgic for summer right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 4:14pm
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Nellboy: If you read what was written above you'd see that I wasn't attacking you but simply pointing out the obvious irony in your statement. Even in that response post you wrote "When I start, I can't stop, and it takes too much out of me..." implying that people (or you specifically) shouldn't (or don't wish to) make the effort required to fix something which is difficult to fix since, as you learned a long time ago 'trying is the first step towards failure'.

Let me ask you this,... why would a random person online such as myself who you've labeled as 'self righteous' and don't even know (without having first heard my story) even upset you by expressing his opinions as to what he thinks should or shouldn't be done regarding society's often overlooked problems?

Here's my hypothesis: this is possibly (and probably) due to the fact that you want to believe (through self-convincing) that your apathy is in any way justified or excusable when you know that it in fact isn't. If you honestly and confidently believed that your actions (or lack thereof) are fully justified then you'd have no reason to take my post offensively and would more than likely disregard my ludacris opinion entirely without any sense of guilt. The defensive nature of your post implies that you're well aware of what should be done but you simply cannot come to terms with the fact that you've consciously or subconsciously chosen to be a passive observer. I'm just hoping that you haven't blinded yourself with the functionalist mentality that "If I don't help this person than somebody else will" because that type of assumption only further regresses social productivity.

The bottom line is this...I'm not attacking you. I'm simply using you as an example of the generally apathetic attitude that the majority of society's people have adopted due to ignorance, greed, and self-loathing. Sure, everyone's got a story and no I don't know what yours is in particular... but guess what, I don't care to hear any of them anymore. I'm tired of hearing stories which in fact are often excuses constructed in disguise to gain pity and alleviate guilt, fully removing any responsability or accountability with regards from the individual to the situation at hand. If people like you focused less on making up excuses and more on actually doing something proactive to obtain results fewer problems would get neglected and perpetuated.

If you were in fact so concerned with hearing each and every person's story and excuse then you wouldn't have even classified all homeless people together the way you did above: "I gave up a long time ago on trying to help them... sometimes i engage in random acts of kindness but mostly i'm apathetic to their problems and to the problems of the world... " Why is it that you didn't simply give up on the 1, 2, 5, or 20 particular bums which you encountered instead of the entire poverty class? Let's say hypothetically for the sake of argument you were completely ignorant and innocently unaware of 'the problems of the world'. Would at least try to become more aware of them by seeking out those few problems which could potentially benefit from your particular attention or would you be content not even knowing what they were?

Honestly, most people would rather NOT know what problems are out there.
I don't think you're one of them but that's seomthing only you can decide.
I'm feeling you up right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nellboy replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 5:13pm
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sorry mate, i'm not going to even answer your hypothesis, because like addressing my problems with society, it would be taken out of context, would take waaaaay too much effort, and ultimately would achieve nothing...

sorry, just my point of view, take it or leave it... I've better things to be doing than writing an essay to justify myself online to someone... like sorting out my own life...

cheers, and good luck with changing the world...
I'm feeling nostalgic for summer right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bunnytronix replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 5:34pm
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hahaha!
Nelly just spent half an hour arguing with jesus face in the web.

IN THE WEB MAN. I thought you had more sense than that. and less time too,
seeing you spend all your personnal time doing drugs and fucking girls and all...
I'm feeling cracktastic right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nellboy replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 10:19pm
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i'm off drugs, and the fucking girls can go jump as well... women = trouble

why didn't ya warn me about the jesus face dude?
I'm feeling nostalgic for summer right now..
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry replied on Tue Oct 31, 2006 @ 10:28pm
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Originally Posted By NELLBOY

i'm off drugs, and the fucking girls can go jump as well... women = trouble


Yeah Dudes are the shit, right Nelly ;)
I'm feeling stressed right now..
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