Plur - What Does It Mean To You?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fishead replied on Mon Sep 26, 2011 @ 6:28pm |
 Coolness: 75765 | wait... so, forgive my poor translation skills, am I to understand that every single culture on the face of the planet - throughout eternity - failed to find true spiritual enlightenment until psytrance solved all the riddles and handed the keys to unlock the mysteries of universe to a bunch of people high on drugs and patchouli fumes? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Mon Sep 26, 2011 @ 6:46pm |
 Coolness: 159215 | According to someone, essentially, yes. Well, the dialogue went more along the lines of all musical styles can help you attain true spiritual enlightenment but nothing surpasses psytrance for the job since it was specifically created and designed for that purpose, yeah.
Draw your own conclusions from this as I have. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Sep 26, 2011 @ 6:56pm |
 Coolness: 106210 | Originally Posted By FISHEAD
am I to understand that every single culture on the face of the planet - throughout eternity - failed to find true spiritual enlightenment until psytrance solved all the riddles and handed the keys to unlock the mysteries of universe to a bunch of people high on drugs and patchouli fumes? Il bet every culture "troughout eternity" has had his version of psytrance. Bunch of peoples all high on shroom banging on drums. Shroom today, shroom 6000 years ago, same buzz ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fishead replied on Mon Sep 26, 2011 @ 6:58pm |
| Coolness: 75765 | Originally Posted By V.2-1
According to someone, essentially, yes. Well, the dialogue went more along the lines of all musical styles can help you attain true spiritual enlightenment but nothing surpasses psytrance for the job since it was specifically created and designed for that purpose, yeah. Draw your own conclusions from this as I have. isn't that kind of like a dude saying "any penis can slide into a vagina, but nothing surpasses mine since it was specifically created and designed for that purpose." ?? hmmm... all this talk about psychedelic visions is giving me the urge to make insanity tacos and drink a bunch of absinthe while watching Altered States again... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Mon Sep 26, 2011 @ 7:39pm |
 Coolness: 146420 | Originally Posted By FISHEAD
insanity tacos "TACO, TACO, NIGGER EAT THE TACO!" |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fishead replied on Mon Sep 26, 2011 @ 7:54pm |
| Coolness: 75765 | I don't care what it has to do with tacos... there are certain words you just don't use on this board... and you done dropped one of 'em Flo... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Sep 26, 2011 @ 8:11pm |
| Coolness: 106210 | So un-plur |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Mon Sep 26, 2011 @ 8:19pm |
| Coolness: 146420 | hahah :)
ok then I'll reply with the PLURest of beatboxers: |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Mon Sep 26, 2011 @ 9:45pm |
 Coolness: 108900 | fengshui, zombie te dis que tu nous crame ta "philosophie", une religion déguisée, et sur cette base que tu te pense meilleur que ceux ne partageant cette façon de penser (emmerder les autres avec des trucs qui leur intéresse pas) et te donne des trucs plus pertinents/important à penser comme il a cité qu'il est mieux de penser à la misère comme la famine ; j'ajouterais les maladies infantiles graves et les guerres (majoritairement civiles et dont plusieurs sont financées par un empire) créant des centaines de milliers de réfugiés.
ta "confusion" sonne plutôt comme un désespoir de vouloir "gagner" contre lui. Update » DynV wrote on Mon Sep 26, 2011 @ 9:53pm on dirait que c'est "réglé". j'ai écrit 1-2 page trop tôt. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Max_x2 replied on Tue Sep 27, 2011 @ 12:12am |
 Coolness: 33995 | Originally Posted By FLO
hahah :)
Baaaahahahahaha! Des bons souvenirs =) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Tue Sep 27, 2011 @ 1:08am |
 Coolness: 86600 | Originally Posted By DYNV
j'm'en calisse pas mal pourquoi on a créé le jungle. j'irai pas crier "braap" ou leur slogan préfabriqués pis porter des truc rasta ou peu importe parce que les créateurs ... j'aime le beat pis c'est tout! well if you took the time to learn who really did create jungle, it would dispel these odd steretypes you have about them =) Judging by your description I'd bet you a pint you don't actually know who any of the real pioneers were =) I started listening to jungle mixtapes in 93. I was at jungle raves in 94/95 and I can tell you the original jungle scene and the music was not like how you portray. that jah rastafari boh junglist shit came later. but patois-speaking chavs no more represent “jungle music”, than new-age hippies represent psy-trance. just to put those illusions to rest – check this vid -> Go to 3:08 to see footage of jungle at a rave in Toronto in 94. you'll see a lot of happy people high on pills dancing to breakbeats with uplifting strings and pianos and female vocals. darkside vibes too, some jungle techno basslines, and maybe a little ragga thrown in as well. in the early days, that was what you could expect at a jungle party. So you're right - that stereotype of patois speaking aggressive junglists definitely is real. But you've got to understand, there's lots of serious jungle/D&B producers and Djs who aren't remotely like that, and play amazing music that has nothing to do with that ragga/dancehall crossover. So you shouldn't paint us all with the same brush. What you see on the surface doesn't reflect what's happening in the underground. There's always people travelling in different orbits. Update » recoil wrote on Tue Sep 27, 2011 @ 1:27am oops - I meant - go to 2:52 - that's where the jungle clip starts. the whole vid is worth watching though |
| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Tue Sep 27, 2011 @ 12:06pm |
 Coolness: 166670 | more space butterlies!
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Tue Sep 27, 2011 @ 4:28pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» fengshui-engine replied on Tue Sep 27, 2011 @ 4:51pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Wed Sep 28, 2011 @ 2:23pm |
| Coolness: 146420 | Roses are red, violets are blue, most poems rhyme, this one doesn't. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» recoil replied on Wed Sep 28, 2011 @ 4:45pm |
| Coolness: 86600 | Originally Posted By FISHEAD JUST ABOUT ANY RHYTHMIC DANCE MUSIC THAT IS MEANT TO PRODUCE SOME KIND OF COLLECTIVE EUPHORIA WILL HAVE A SIMILAR EFFECT... HELL, YOU DON'T EVEN NEED RHYTHM... CHECK OUT THE SORTS OF THING THAT SOMEONE LIKE FRANCISCO LOPEZ IS INVOLVED WITH (SHOWS WHERE THE AUDIENCE IS BLINDFOLDED TO FURTHER FOCUS THEIR MIND ON THEIR SENSE OF HEARING - AS WELL AS PROMOTING A STATE OF AWAKE-DREAMING)...
hell.. you don't even really need sound - just fire up a turntable with one of Brion Gysin's DreamMachines on it and get your trance going that way... or look into some of the more difficult paths (ie: Sundance ceremony, Kavandi bearing... prolonged meditation).... there are a lot of different ways to hit trance states... I seriously pity those who have only managed to find one - and believe that their one single route to a mystical state is the only real one. + 1000 |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed Sep 28, 2011 @ 6:14pm |
| Coolness: 106210 | I dont think the fact that anything can help attain a trance is challenged in this thread. Just that psytrance is a favored tool frequently used by psychonaults around the world to accompany them in there psychedelic experience.
Whereas partying for the sake of partying may be the goal of most electronic beat events, the psychedelic experience, with or without drugs, is a common denominator at most psytrance events. Maybe theres a difference between just getting drunk, and getting high on lsd... ...And I never knew that all along, peeps at hardcore/breakcore/industrial/d&b party's where all about trying to create some sort of trance for themselves. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Wed Sep 28, 2011 @ 6:49pm |
| Coolness: 159215 | Civilizations much older than ours, like Mayans, were able to fall into trances with just the sound of drums, why would hardcore be any different ? If anything, hardcore sounds a heck of a lot closer to beating drums than psytrance ( tempo aside, obviously ).
Of course, said "trance" is a bit different from style to style but the effects are similar. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed Sep 28, 2011 @ 7:19pm |
| Coolness: 106210 | Originally Posted By V.2-1
Civilizations much older than ours, like Mayans, were able to fall into trances with just the sound of drums, why would hardcore be any different ? As I said, anything can help in falling into a trance, even silence. Maybe the Mayans got there by using the sounds of drums, maybe it was by drinking the blood of there enemy. I dont know. But the fact that everyone is staking claim to "the trance" today is quite amusing to me. Specially by those who rail about it 99% of the time. ;-) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Wed Sep 28, 2011 @ 8:39pm |
 Coolness: 158865 | I think what's being challenged is precisely the value of "psytrance-inducted" trance vis-à-vis other "types" of trance. And why the proponents of the former usually seem to preach it as the ultimate trance one can get.
I like psytrance and goa and stuff, but music in general tends to uplift me. Hell, I started listening and raving to "melodic"/"uplifting" trance, and I intensely remember the chills some melodies gave me, all while sober. And hey, funny enough, I got the same vibe over the years to many different genres. Even dubstep. It's supposed to be a pretty individualistic experience, and whenever you're at an event, then and ONLY then can it become a (somewhat) shared experience. And THAT's still a pretty individual choice, whether or not to share. So yeah... Preachers, bite me. Mind your own trance, and please don't step on my trip. Update » Masa wrote on Wed Sep 28, 2011 @ 8:41pm Oooh, oooh, you know what I enjoyed?
Parties with different genres! Then we can all share our trip to whoever wants to listen, and perhaps get different insights  Update » Masa wrote on Wed Sep 28, 2011 @ 8:47pm ...
Let's be serious anyway. It's becoming pretty obvious that it's not really about the music, and more about LSD huh? I guess I can't blame you |
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