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My External Hard Drive Is Not Working Anymore
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 8:41pm |
 Coolness: 131715 | there are converters that exist all to pcmcia. if you have a laptop, or worse , and usb / firewire / wsb connection box.
i agree only hardcore tech know about this one.. Connects to Host adapter (on PCs often integrated into motherboard) via one of: * PATA (IDE) interface * SATA interface * SAS interface * SCSI interface (popular on servers) * FC interface (almost exclusively found on servers) * EIDE interface * USB interface (for external/portable hard drives) * IEEE 1394 interface (for external/portable hard drives) anyways all this ends up in an enclosue either usb / or / firewire. why not buy it normally and get converters that have all the above in one ?? see here [ www.satacard.com ] Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 8:53pm ^ this kit is ugly , but there some that are really worth it , especially if you keep real masters and your using childs of the master.
you could do the same with two generic, but would you agree this is a little more versatile. this is actually the solution to using a laptop like a tower , before they phase out both of them. Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 9:00pm ^ still needs external power ... dis a little and you would probably find something that will blow your mind for 5.99 $ |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» gfk- replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 8:55pm |
 Coolness: 29180 | i said try freezing it 'cause i had a HDD that wouldnt work whatsoever a while ago now, and my dad (who happens to be comptia a+, mcse, mcsa and cisco qualified) told me to chuck it in the freezer after he failed to make it work at all, and wallah! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 9:10pm |
| Coolness: 131715 | from shoving it in the frezer lithography layers in the chip could densify humdity and "bond" again due to conductive behaviour of encapsulated conductive material , that area could probably be retreive that way.
same goes to freezing , normalizing the gauss energy on disk, but imo. it wouldn work for a drop disk on 99.9% occasions . that trick i remembered from hd that overheated in busy sco servers in hopes that the termistor would "unlock" . dude in not making fun of you , im trying to figure out what physics are behind this. so im all with stfu trying out your trick at this point since we confirmed the smart table is spuing garbage. Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 9:21pm when solid solid state material are currupted , ( probably due to head interrogation that send back garbage back to the pio, since its smash ) , you know you can fit two hd head in one millimiter ? dunno how high it got drop, but that doesnt need much to crash 3-4 G over their tolerance. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Count_Bandit replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 9:14pm |
 Coolness: 49280 | ok dudes ill put it in the freezer in a plastic bag, ill take ou max of air so there wont be humidity..
how much time should i freeze it? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 9:23pm |
| Coolness: 131715 | if i were you i would retreive all the silicat gel pouch in all the shoebox you could find and put it in the bag. still the hd scealed enclosure will end up with water dripplet if its there too long.
id say long enought so it doesnt get frostbite. Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 9:27pm Well, at least the hard disk spun for about 2 minutes before crashing again. Maybe that's not long enough to let me recover any data, but it worked for a little while. :)
edit: The day after, I shoved the hard drive back in the freezer for 24 hours. After getting it out, I was able to get 20 more minutes of life out it. not the reliability your looking for , but be ready to dump it maybe... , and unhook it if dripplets shorted somehting. :P |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Count_Bandit replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 9:26pm |
| Coolness: 49280 | yeah i know. im really excited about that.. what if it works??
ok ill post the results around 22h30 |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 9:29pm |
| Coolness: 131715 | good luck ! , if it work , you could buy a can of freeze and keep the drive to the cold temperature so you can dump as much as you can. Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 9:31pm note that transistor when they are drop loose their doped electron characteristic, and can conduct both side. freezing would create a a better conductor till it heats up again so the electron choose the way back again. Update » cutterhead wrote on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 9:33pm prep up like they said thou, thats for shure,
I have never been able to use the freezer gig to save the "click of death" HD. I haved saved 3 HDs that were not making the clicking noise, they just would not read nor be accessed, even data recovery software. What i do is, do a dry run first b4 freezing. run from the frig with the hd and connect it up. Then freeze it, overnight. I usually connect it up inplace of the cdrom drive on the second IDE port, with nothing else connected to the cable. Make sure the jumpers are set right. I then put in a scratch HD on the primary , boot off of my ghost floppy and ghost the data on the hd to the scratch HD B4 the bad one thaws. You only get one chance. I think it is the way the drive is made and freezing contracts mechanical parts. Actually the way Hard drives are made nowadays , I actually do not ever think I will have to freeza one again. By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:53 AM |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Count_Bandit replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 10:42pm |
| Coolness: 49280 | freezer fail |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Fri Mar 20, 2009 @ 11:41pm |
| Coolness: 131715 | damn . thoses lil 2.5 arent as though as thoses old 3.5 ,
but even there, when i was in school i bought a 20gb half hight maxtor. (just release back then) it burned one hot summer day because i was too stupid and push a lowlevel format right after a "nice -20" gcc build that lasted 3 days. i think i had it for a month. never got a RMA on it , so i lost a lot that day. i also seen spywares that were in a computer for too long burn a hd. you have my compassion. this why i suggest you next time to get a double , double ghost it. ( or bin copy ) and keep it in a drawer, use that one , never , except when its backup time, and to test integrity. that way even if the computer catch fire , youll still have a copy somewhere. on 1.5 terra i own, i only have an active 250 gb. the rest are clones all over town. last resort would be transfer disk in a clone case. but im shure there is a good 1mm head burn. its a sad day :C |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 11:41am |
 Coolness: 2604105 | Buy a solid state hd... 800$ for the Intel X25-M but you can drop it no problems...
The Intel X18-M and X25-M Mainstream SATA SSDs are available in 80 gigabyte (GB) capacities, with 160GB versions sampling in the fourth quarter of this year. The 80GB drive achieves up to 250MB per second read speeds, up to 70MB per second write speeds and 85-microsecond read latency for fast performance. The 80GB version is priced at $595 for quantities up to 1,000. These SSDs are available now and end-customer products containing the Intel(R) High-Performance SATA SSDs. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 3:51pm |
| Coolness: 131715 | what are the warantee of these ? did they improoved the cell burn issue ? (re-write lifetime)
wow that drive is sexy i agree Update » cutterhead wrote on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 3:54pm what i like with them is no spindle overhead/ noise and there green energy.
im not worry it can hold data, im just wondering if they resolved the cell burn issue with other techniques than swapping always on a different sector. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 3:57pm |
 Coolness: 685710 | you want to see the awesomeness of what the SSD drives can do, watch this:
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 4:09pm |
| Coolness: 131715 | yea , but at 100$ for 16 gb , thats a little crazy for any ssd size array.
awsome mod, out of my budjet thou ( for now ), haha 2gb a sec |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» gfk- replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 7:23pm |
| Coolness: 29180 | woah that pc he built defines awesomeness. btw sorry to hear the freezer trick didnt work for you :( |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 8:02pm |
| Coolness: 131715 | I have never been able to use the freezer gig to save the "click of death" HD. I haved saved 3 HDs that were not making the clicking noise, they just would not read nor be accessed, even data recovery software. What i do is, do a dry run first b4 freezing. run from the frig with the hd and connect it up. Then freeze it, overnight. I usually connect it up inplace of the cdrom drive on the second IDE port, with nothing else connected to the cable. Make sure the jumpers are set right. I then put in a scratch HD on the primary , boot off of my ghost floppy and ghost the data on the hd to the scratch HD B4 the bad one thaws. You only get one chance. I think it is the way the drive is made and freezing contracts mechanical parts. Actually the way Hard drives are made nowadays , I actually do not ever think I will have to freeza one again.
By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:53 AM ^ as sniped from a website , i would cover the fact that this isnt a perma fix. a normal hd , in a freezer for a day, would end up with humidity inside, unless you go from normal temperature to a near zero, in a progressive way. else its butchering the electronics, and disk surface. Update » cutterhead wrote on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 8:05pm what appened when it got hit could also displace one of the disk out of alignment, or smashing the head soo hard to damage surface or cutup one of the wires that goes from the guide to the head.
the first about off alignement show normally with recognise gargage ) ie head one read sector 1 and while head two is aligned on sector 2 or whatever , there is now an offset something creating this. Update » cutterhead wrote on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 8:11pm imshure you must know how big is a sector on disk , now a slight slide of a head at a few gs would do the same thing a Trackmaster II would on a vinyl if youd hit the needle while riding the groove.
there is no shuch thing as a park position anymore, disk head can stall over surface, but there is a limit to such impact a+ research |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» KSjSwtrG3eunKUY4 replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 8:37pm |
 Coolness: 41620 | Wow! Solid state HD...
That is pure awesomeness... I remember fantasies about such a thing in my youth. Like I used to fantasize about something like the iPhone... I am an oracle. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 8:40pm |
| Coolness: 131715 | 
you understand for the price of that array you can get a flybook v5 ? id go with the flybook no shit |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 9:32pm |
 Coolness: 201345 | for 3000 I'd be able to build a sick workstation and have enough left over for a netbook |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» KSjSwtrG3eunKUY4 replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 9:49pm |
| Coolness: 41620 | For around 8000 I could get a sick mac pro... that's like... a mainframe... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cutterhead replied on Sat Mar 21, 2009 @ 11:57pm |
| Coolness: 131715 | well , do the math 10 x [ 80GB version is priced at $595 ] that makes 5950,00 without taxes to build a 800gb
you could get about 1000 tb for that price. even more i know nothing beats transfering 12 dvd to your buddy in 10 seconds, but he still has to have the same throuput. btw that flybook i can get for a lot less that the 3k we see everywhere on the net. when i start translating pages i get hidden candy. and on a side note im trying to get some directly off the manufacturer to retails some here in canada, that 3k is too crazy ( even for a cellular technology inside / ~2000*~2000 resolution when hookup to a tv ) , but still, im saving for one or two for shure ! next choice would be a panasonic toughbook, but the flybook would have to be phased out of the earth surface for shure. man you can watch GPRS tv & sms directly from the flybook & recive / make calls that beat any mac phone any given day. |
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