Why Do People Still Think Techno Is Underground?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nodeletesucks replied on Wed Aug 13, 2008 @ 12:13pm |
 Coolness: 56065 | Originally Posted By BLISSS
Originally Posted By smog
Originally Posted By mad-kiloz
TEKNO is the underground... TECHNO is mainstream clubber stlye gros rave paient.... that is from a europian point of view... i never use the term techno unless its mainstream.. i say tekno tekno no its ard tek This is the first I've ever heard of this, Are you telling me "Techno" is commercial, And that theres this other thing called "Tekno" thats the real underground? No offense but it just sounds like a bad rip off If I'm correct, in Europe they use different terms for music styles. Someone told me that "Tektonik" is used to definite "Electro House" and the term "Hardcore" is mostly used for styles like "gabber/terrorcore" and in Quebec we use it for "UK/Nu Style Gabber/Mostly what sounds HARD" Here in Quebec, it's a lil' bit like this : everyone that has not even a little knowledge of electronic music will qualify every electronic music genres "Techno"...whether it's crappy MC Mario dance mixes or PsyTrance. And usually, they use this word to describe what they hear....that is Mainstream stuff. So yeah, even here, we gotta insist to say TECHNO is a particular genre...even if we gotta write "Tekno" to see a difference between the both of them. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Wed Aug 13, 2008 @ 1:29pm |
 Coolness: 153050 | in uk, if you say hardcore, it means uk hardcore/happy hardcore
in the netherlands, if you say hardcore, it means gabber (new style or not) whos got right, whos got wrong? nobody, people uses the word punk to describe music from blink 182 up to the sex pistols. it will never end. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Wed Aug 13, 2008 @ 1:49pm |
 Coolness: 129765 | Originally Posted By SABINONSTOP
ps;it is still entertainig drama nun da less! What drama? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» the_worm replied on Wed Aug 13, 2008 @ 3:24pm |
 Coolness: 61100 | hey bliss,what do you think about the critics that clown made from your little mix.
cause i think it's pretty accurate. but you what do you have to say in return. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown replied on Wed Aug 13, 2008 @ 4:56pm |
 Coolness: 221810 | Originally Posted By THE_WORM
hey bliss,what do you think about the critics that clown made from your little mix. cause i think it's pretty accurate. but you what do you have to say in return. well, he did say, this : [ www.rave.ca ] :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mAd-kiloZ replied on Wed Aug 13, 2008 @ 5:08pm |
 Coolness: 91210 | tekno: [ fr.wikipedia.org ]
free party/underground tekno parties: [ fr.wikipedia.org ] i use these terms as in to say underground as peeps from england, france, spain, italy, austria, cz, montreal, toronto, newyork etc... they all understand the TEKNO movement ... (it might be hard for u to undersatnd living here in quebec) THOUSANDS of SOUNDSYSTEMS all use this term, HUNDREDS of THOUSANDS of PARTICIPANTS all understand and respect the term. when I hear TIESTO i HEAR TECHNO. smog: le "hardtek francaise et bin different du tekno style, popof, noisebuilder, Lowkey, kraft, tonio, alferox gelstat [ www.myspace.com ] listen to some wiked mixes/lives [ www.ek23sound.org ] p c'est vrai que les meaning du style de son change tout dependament leur pays ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Wed Aug 13, 2008 @ 8:07pm |
| Coolness: 129765 | Originally Posted By THE_WORM
hey bliss,what do you think about the critics that clown made from your little mix. cause i think it's pretty accurate. but you what do you have to say in return. It was one review for a mix I myself admit was done on the fly and for fun I really don't give a shit if certain people didn't think it was technically accurate from A to Z As long as I liked it thats all I really care about, Me and Clown are at peace now and we'll try to focus on working together instead of tearing each other down. I'll also be making more mixes for you guys to critisize or enjoy. Here's some other reviews from people who've enjoyed my other mixes: [ www.rave.ca ] [ www.musicismysanctuary.com ] [ www.musicismysanctuary.com ] [ www.breakbeat.ca ] URB Magazine (USA) 
Tribe Magazine (TO) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Wed Aug 13, 2008 @ 11:01pm |
 Coolness: 76755 | You're walking the road to has-been, even if you do get some good reviews man.
And taking on everybody in every community at once only proves you're out of touch. It's sad to see someone crash and burn, but you's him! Somebody walk this loser down the plank already. You know nothing about the music you spin or how it evolved, where it came from, and what inspired it. How dare you spin Aphex, he would spit in your ignorant face. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Wed Aug 13, 2008 @ 11:15pm |
| Coolness: 129765 | Lol,
Check [ www.djbliss.net ] For upcoming gigs... Aphex Twin in termsof Electro and Breakbeat: Here's video clip of Aphex Twin's ELECTRO BREAKS smash hit Windowlicker, been playing this track for years. [ www.kewego.com ] In the UK, Aphex Twin's music is normally referred to as electronic music due to Aphex Twin's influence coming from electronic musicians such as Parmegiani and his study of electronics in technical college. The official genre name from Rephlex Records is Braindance. Aphex Twin refers to his own breakbeat tracks as breakbeat, jungle, or drum and bass interchangeably. For his 1995 release, ...I Care Because You Do, James used an image of his face for the album cover; a motif that would continue on many of his later records. The album was a compilation of songs composed between 1990 and 1994, and represented a mish-mash of Aphex Twin's various music styles. This was James' last record of the 1990s to use mostly analogue synthesizers. Braindance Richard's own Rephlex Records label, which he co-owns with Grant Wilson-Claridge, coined the term "Braindance" in 1991 to describe Aphex Twin's otherwise uncategorisable music. Rephlex Records' official definition of Aphex Twin and his followers' music is quoted as follows: "Braindance is the genre that encompasses the best elements of all genres, e.g traditional, classical, electronic music, popular, modern, industrial, ambient, hip hop, electro, house, techno, breakbeat, hardcore, ragga, garage, drum and bass, etc." Update » Blisss wrote on Wed Aug 13, 2008 @ 11:32pm BTW I GUESS YOU WERE THERE WHEN MOBY, APHEX TWIN AND ORBITAL PLAYED METROPOLIS BACK IN [ 92...CA ] I WAS Update » Blisss wrote on Wed Aug 13, 2008 @ 11:38pm Interview with Dj Bliss on NCV
[ www.nocommercialvalue.ca ] NCV Feature of the Month #6 Montreal’s Hardest Working DJ: Bliss Written by Deliz If you keep an eye out on who’s DJing in Montreal you’ll probably see many of the same names playing different parties on a weekly basis. It can mean a few things: either, they promote really well, or they’re really popular DJs that people want to hear. Both are equally true for DJ Bliss, [ www.djbliss.net ] voted Montreal’s number one DJ in “Lalla Land’s Top Ten DJ’s in MTL”. For Bliss, being a DJ is his profession, it pays the bills, and he puts in more hours than most people do sitting behind a desk in a cubicle. The only difference is that Bliss is in front of decks rockin’ a dance floor cubicle! Born in South Africa, Bliss was a young teenager in the 80’s, too young for the clubs, but still thriving to party and hear dance music. Instead, he hosted and played house parties with his friends and never looked back as a DJ. Today, Bliss’ life revolves around researching new music, finding old hidden gems in a stash of second hand records, and programming sets for particular gigs depending on the venue and expected crowd. “…I put in about 25 hours a week of actually DJing for an audience, and I spend about 30 to 40 hours a week researching new music and practicing. To that you have to add all the time it takes to update websites, answer emails, negotiate contracts, and promote... All told, it can be quite demanding if you add the late hours.” So why would a DJ need to dedicate so many hours to listening and discovering music? The answer is that no one has to devote that much time to anything, but to be the best and to offer a fresh sound that no one else is capable of reproducing is what separates Bliss from the rest. In the ultra competitive market called DJ land, “…there’s always someone out there who’ll be more than happy to take your spot”, says Bliss, so the only way to stay ahead is to be a leader and set the standards. “… You consistently have to work on providing a set both you, the client, and the crowd is happy with, which is not always easy. I check out 4 to 500 new songs in a week and spend a lot of time filtering and trying to get the music to fit together. Every set I play is tailor made to the type of gig and crowd I’m playing for and in 10 years I can safely say I’ve never played the same set twice.” To define his musical style is not easy and not important because the end result is always the same: a big-time-boogie-breakdown on the dance floor! Sifting through various musical styles during a set and banging out almost anything electronic, Bliss is known as Montreal’s break beat guru, his reputation made while DJing at the Grill, a Thursday break beat ritual at Blizzarts that lasted 4 years and saw the likes of DJ Scissorkicks, international break beat superstar, literally tear the roof off the place! With over a decade of DJ experience, Bliss knows what works on the dance floor and he’s not afraid to test people’s musical tastes with a mash-up of different styles. To have an idea of what Bliss plays, check out his website and top ten charts, and if you want to hear his production skills put down in digital form, check his My Space page, [ www.myspace.com ] DJ mixes also included. Catch Bliss playing electro and acid house at‘Voyeur’ parties on a monthly basis at the S.A.T. , various styles of the break beat phenomenon on Friday’s at Boa with long time partner and DJ, T’Cha Dunlevy, and electro, brit-pop, and indie on Monday’s at L'Assommoir from 7 – 12. DJ Bliss Interview What's more important in a DJ set: track selection, technically sound, or tricks/turntablism? Well, it is a commonly held understanding that 70% of DJing is track selection and 30% of it is the technical aspects such as mixing, fading, scratching, and I'd have to agree. I've seen rock DJs who can't mix to save their lives make a crowd go nuts and guys who mix perfectly but play crap music empty out the room… Don't get me wrong though, I think anybody who wants to call himself a DJ should learn the basics of mixing if they want to get any respect. Basically, my motto has always been if you have a killer track selection and you're able to mix it together properly, you're pretty much invincible. As for tricks, they tend to wear out pretty fast. Scratching is useful but so many DJs abuse it to death. What are your thoughts about the laptop DJ? Personally, I still prefer vinyl but realistically it’s the future. People sometimes forget that the bulk of DJing really boils down to track selection and reading the crowd. DJs using this medium are perfectly capable of rocking a crowd. It is convenient and allows the DJ to bring a ton of music to a gig without getting a hernia. I think we just need to get used to the idea of a DJ using a laptop instead of pulling records out of a bag. I think as long as people like what's coming out of the speakers, that’s all that really matters at the end of the day. Do you have a favorite style of music? In terms of styles I have a soft spot for breaks because not many DJs play breaks and even fewer of them play the full spectrum of breaks. I like the fact it is a very diverse genre with such a rich history. I'm always discovering new tracks weather newer or older because so much of it is underground and obscure and labels often don't survive very long. Another style I've always liked is electro. Kraftwerk and other early electro outfits were responsible for getting me into electronic music when I was a kid in the 80s. It’s a genre I've continued to play to this day through all its twists and turns. I just find the beats and the melodies easier on the ears than techno or other harder styles of electronic music. When it comes to music in general, I tend to stick to the 90% rule, that is to say, pretty much 90% of any genre is crap and about 10% is really worth checking out. I'll spend an incredible amount of time lifting through thousands of tracks just to find the gems. I look for tracks that stand out a little and mess with common held musical definitions and think a little outside the box. They're the kind of tracks I come back to years later and usually find a lot more interesting than most of the generic stuff of the time. With so many advancements in music technology in the last decade, where do you see music going in the next 10 years? The future of music is in the mixing of genres and sounds to create new hybrids, taking stuff that normally shouldn't or wouldn't mix and trying to come up with something new. The way I see it as more countries around the world begin to offer up their productions we'll have an ever-increasing myriad of unique sounding subgenres and flavors… Iraqi Idm, Chinese techno, Central African house music, Australian break beat, I dunno…you could probably think of a million of them, all bringing new sounds and flavors to the table…I think the main challenge will be to see how open minded we actually are to taking it all in. Who would you consider the most prolific producer(s) in electronic music to date? Aphex Twin. He's covered some many genres from break beat and electro to d’n’b and ambient and always does it his own way with a new twist Who are your biggest influences when it comes to production? Aphex Twin has been a big influence because he has no rules in his approach to making music. People follow him, not the other way round. The other would be Andrew Weatherall for pretty much all the same reasons. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Minou replied on Thu Aug 14, 2008 @ 9:43pm |
 Coolness: 136090 | wow
what a drama |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Thu Aug 14, 2008 @ 9:59pm |
 Coolness: 158780 | at least bliss look almost sexy in his new avatar. grrrrrr |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Thu Aug 14, 2008 @ 10:01pm |
 Coolness: 150505 | Originally Posted By BETTY_HAZE
at least bliss look almost sexy in his new avatar. grrrrrr Is that because you can't see the majority of his face? :/ |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Thu Aug 14, 2008 @ 10:04pm |
| Coolness: 158780 | are you jealous mico? you know that in my heart you;re the cutest! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Thu Aug 14, 2008 @ 10:11pm |
| Coolness: 150505 | Moi! Jaloux? Jamais! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Sickness replied on Thu Aug 14, 2008 @ 11:13pm |
 Coolness: 140100 | blisss you are such an entertainer!!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 3:50am |
| Coolness: 129765 | Originally Posted By BETTY_HAZE
at least bliss look almost sexy in his new avatar. grrrrrr For your information lots of girls think I'm sexy, And I could get laid A LOT if I wanted too, However I don't DJ to pick up chicks, I just enjoy giving them a good time on the dancefloor |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 10:23am |
 Coolness: 266000 | Sad face. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 12:34pm |
 Coolness: 84980 | I enjoy giving them a good time with their head rammed into the mattress. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 2:09pm |
 Coolness: 166590 | nice job spamming this thread bliss...what do links to mixes, mix reviews, and an interview with you have to do with the difference between underground and pop? You talk about Aphex Twin, yet with no mention of whether or not he's underground... ...you started this thread to provoke us, now you're using it to promote yourself. pathetic. plus, you keep skipping over the subject at hand in order to defend yourself.
long live TEKNO. (and props to whoever said that techno is underground 'cause there's no techno Grammy Award...too funny) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Sickness replied on Fri Aug 15, 2008 @ 3:04pm |
| Coolness: 140100 | welcome to the first Undergrammy Awards. Live from Ibiza the world most underground place!!!!!
Our first Undergammy awards goes to : TIESTO !!!!! That's it folks, next year the winner will probably be Benni Benassi cause he's effin UNDERGROUND! |
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