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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 2:28pm |
 Coolness: 471900 | -it cause they dont want them to have pleasure
they want them to become babies factory bastard- Minou |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Minou replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 2:33pm |
 Coolness: 136140 | YEAH sorry we lost it
you know how girls are... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 2:39pm |
 Coolness: 81785 | Honestly speaking, it's alot more complexe than that... To simplify it down to something so linear is to ignorantly neglect a tradition that goes back hundreds, if not thousands of generations. I'm not saying the tradition is rational but we as westerners are in no position to ethnocentrically judge another culture's social or religious practices. Alot of people could equally say that baptism, capitalism, or the fact that we wear clothing is absolutely unnecessary and completely ridiculous but every tradition holds a certain relative value to the belief system which created it. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 2:41pm |
 Coolness: 685685 | Yeah, YOU try going out this winter with no clothes on!  |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 2:42pm |
| Coolness: 81785 | Demographic circumstances don't necessarily have to dictate behaviour
Who's forcing you to leave your house anyways? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 2:48pm |
| Coolness: 471900 | u sincerely think that shit's right, whatever the reasons behind it ????? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 4:12pm |
| Coolness: 81785 | Certain things can't be defined as 'right' or 'wrong' it's what those people / cultures believe in plain and simple.
some people believe in god (or several gods) some people believe in communism some people believe in polygamy some people believe that we're the only living species in the galaxy some people believe in ESP some people believe in drug use etc... Faith is a very powerful (if not the most powerful) thing that we all possess. You can't simply (and biasly) judge other people's / cultures' / societies' / religions' faiths until you've analyzed, understood, and judged your own... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 4:38pm |
| Coolness: 471900 | i aint questionning the meaning of every single word we're using right thurr ..
just asking ..YOU "...do YOU think its right, regarding to YOUR culture and value and influences and beliefs and such |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Minou replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 4:55pm |
| Coolness: 136140 | from my side, regarding how i got raise and what my parents and society teached me ITS FUCKING WRONG |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 4:57pm |
| Coolness: 471900 | same here, but i find it more like an ..intuitive opinion even ...not even cultural ...it just doesnt make any fuckin sense and nothing can excuse it ...
my 2 cents ...i'm out |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Phoenix replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 5:31pm |
| Coolness: 81785 | I believe that people should concern themselves primarily with what affects them on an individual basis, the society in which they live, the religion in which they believe, or the application of the cultural norms which surrounds them.
Don't you understand that if we disagree with what another culture does and has been doing for as long as history records, we're still in no position to tell others what's right or wrong? You cannot simply force, or even suggest than another society should conform to what our seemingly more advanced society considers acceptable. We could honestly debate a million examples of how some cultures try to assimilate others... For example: it's not the church's place to spread christianity around the world in order to convert other people's beliefs as has been done for centuries. It's not the western world's place to impose capitalism on other sovereign nations Iraq or otherwise. It is not our place to suggest that the legal system in another society is 'unjust'. There are societies out there that to this day still practice ritual human sacrifice, canibalism, and other unfathomable acts that may, in the eyes of humanitarians, be considered cruel and primative. Regardless, we cannot judge the choices made by other people or groups of people... Say for example you consider suicide bombers to be fanatical, brainwashed, and utterly insane. Can you completely neglect that every person alive has the freedom to make their own choices and do what they do because they will it? These people who consentially sacrifice their own lives don't do it because it's they believe it's right, they do it because they feel it has purpose to them and because it reflects their own belief and the beliefs of those they most closely identify with. Basically the point I'm trying to make is that the only person who can label a person's actions as 'right' or 'wrong' is that person. Furthermore people need to accept responsability and accountability for their actions... If you do something today, you'll have to live with the consequences of your actions. If you have no guilty conscience then you have the freedom to commit acts labeled 'morally wrong' so long as their don't conflict with local legalities (ie: Capitalism dictates that to be successful you need to buy low and sell high. Is it not morally 'wrong' or selfish to sell something to someone for more than it's actually worth or costs to manufacturer?...Is it 'wrong' that americans without healthcare insurance will be left to die on the doorsteps of hospitals if they can't afford the required treatment? is it 'wrong' that we have to pay out shit like water tax?) Seemingly, the answer to these questions is yes but we find a way to justify our actions through our need to survive, unfortunately more on an individual basis than that of the species. I might disagree with another person's beliefs but without first trying to understand why a person does (or even entertaining the possible reasoning why someone might do) what they do I'll never have a chance to judge the act objectively without bias. Listen,...I didn't intend on going off on such a long rant and I obviously understand why you think it's 'wrong' for people in other cultures to remove womens' clits. I'd like you to at least acknowledge that we do many things that we consider socially acceptable which another person from a different culture would look at as equally wrong. ie: the fact that we mutilate ourselves with piercings, tattooing and branding... Couldn't you say that in the eyes of another it may be viewed as even more 'wrong' to mutilate oneself purely for selfishness of esthetical purposes? The way I see it, if another culture believes in removing clitori for whatever reason, it can't possibly be viewed as any more "wrong" than people who puncture holes through their toungues for the aspects of sexual gain. Whether we commit acts to improve or degenerate the quality of our lives is irrelevant. That's not what makes the distinction between 'right' and 'wrong'. Was is wrong for someone to invent the A-bomb? Are people who commit sodomy doing something 'wrong'? History teaches us alot of important lessons...that moral values and acceptable norms are constantly changing and will continue to change likely at an exponentially increased speed since humanity has become more liberal overall. Go back only a few hundred years.... it was the men who wore wigs and makeup not the women and now that's seen as less socially accpetable. Look at Shakespeare's time. Romeo and Juliette were 14 and 12 years old when they engaged in sexual relations. Hell, even a hundred years ago it was perfectly acceptable for a 25 year old man to wed a 13 year old girl but now it's viewed as pedophilia. Anyways, The bottom line is that You don't have to be right to be righteous. Everyone does what makes them feel righteous and I think we're all entitled to do as we please so long as the actions cause by the belief don't conflict with the laws which put in place and agreed upon as being socially acceptable by the people who make up the that society. Laws were created to maintain order and peace amongst the individuals living within a society... they weren't designed to distinguish between 'right' and 'wrong'. If so, a person commiting a morally guilty act shouldn't be let off regardless of a technical loophole because of the way the text within a law is written or interpreted. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Mon Oct 23, 2006 @ 5:36pm |
| Coolness: 471900 | forget it mang i'm definitly out |
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