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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Nov 21, 2005 @ 6:46am |
 Coolness: 92395 | wtf.. I never met anyone who gave a shit either way. Honestly. Nobody cares but people from Quebec. Nobody gives a rats ass if you're a seperatist or not. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog replied on Mon Nov 21, 2005 @ 10:37am |
 Coolness: 97230 | Originally posted by DJNEOFORM...
Well hey, i guess i'm just have to start a political party and possibly a revolution.. maybe become a sovereignist for montreal's independance from Quebec.. and possibly reintegration into Canada.. I bet you'd LOVE that. well, good luck having a majority at the Assemblée Nationale! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Mon Nov 21, 2005 @ 11:33am |
 Coolness: 146455 | Originally posted by MOONDANCER...
wtf.. I never met anyone who gave a shit either way. Honestly. Nobody cares but people from Quebec. Nobody gives a rats ass if you're a seperatist or not. at least it seems so, to me. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Nov 21, 2005 @ 12:51pm |
 Coolness: 339795 | Originally posted by MR. FROG...
Originally posted by DJneoform...
Well hey, i guess i'm just have to start a political party and possibly a revolution.. maybe become a sovereignist for montreal's independance from Quebec.. and possibly reintegration into Canada.. I bet you'd LOVE that. well, good luck having a majority at the Assemblée Nationale! Why would i give a shit about the Assemblée Nationale? I'm in montreal. Not Quebec. Long live a free montreal!! Free from the quebec tyrants who have been holding my montreal culture and heritage back! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog replied on Mon Nov 21, 2005 @ 1:06pm |
| Coolness: 97230 | as I said, municipalities don't have the power to take such decision. Just look at the defusions, it needed a law from the Assemblée Nationale to allow referendums. Same thing. And the Canada's government won't be able to do fuck all in the interior politics of another country, so I don't know how a such thing can be possible.
You will either need to accept the results of all Quebec's population's choice, or form your party to have the power to do thing like you want. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Nov 21, 2005 @ 2:37pm |
| Coolness: 339795 | Well well well.
Canada says it's illegal to seperate, you make noise.. now you say it's illegal for Montreal to seperate from Quebec.. and you're niiiiice and happy. How does it feel to be a hypocrite? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog replied on Mon Nov 21, 2005 @ 3:11pm |
| Coolness: 97230 | can't you read fuck?
There is no law saying that it's illegal for a Province to go away, and since Quebec has it own competances and it own justice system, they can take that kind of decision. A CITY (AND A MRC AND A REGION) DOES NOT HAVE THIS POWER TO TAKE THIS KIND OF DECISION. AND AND AND: Montreal IS NOT one city, I don't know HOW the Island of Montreal could be treated like an entity and could even have a such referendum. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply replied on Mon Nov 21, 2005 @ 7:37pm |
 Coolness: 85065 | sorry bud, treason is illegal. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Mon Nov 21, 2005 @ 9:00pm |
| Coolness: 339795 | At what point did you descide that an UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACTION is not an illegal one?
it is MOST DEFINITELY illegal for a province to seperate. no question. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog replied on Mon Nov 21, 2005 @ 11:46pm |
| Coolness: 97230 | find me a law that describe how it is illegal for a province to seperate from the rest of the Country?
I really don't think this is also called treason, and if so, find me a Canadian definition of treason. (don't you think if this was treason that all members olf the PQ should have been put in jail after 1980? Why weren't they throw in jail then?) Elseway, you both don't know anything about what you are talking. BTW: who did not sign the constitution? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Tue Nov 22, 2005 @ 12:28am |
 Coolness: 150590 | hehe. ^^^ |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Nov 22, 2005 @ 1:47am |
| Coolness: 339795 | Originally posted by MR. FROG...
find me a law that describe how it is illegal for a province to seperate from the rest of the Country? I really don't think this is also called treason, and if so, find me a Canadian definition of treason. (don't you think if this was treason that all members olf the PQ should have been put in jail after 1980? Why weren't they throw in jail then?) Elseway, you both don't know anything about what you are talking. BTW: who did not sign the constitution? You do realize that an unconstitutional action is one that is either: a) said to be not allowed by the constitution or b) not mentioned or specifically allowed by the constitution the whole idea of a constitution is to cover everything. since it's not writen in the constitution that a province can suceed from Canada, it is therefore Unconstitutional. Something that is unconstitutional, is illegal. If quebec wanted to legally suceed, they would have to have the laws changed. And who gives a fuck whether or not Levesque refused to sign the amendment to the ALREADY existing constitutional act? Trudeau was one of the best PM's this country has seen. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc replied on Tue Nov 22, 2005 @ 3:13am |
 Coolness: 148945 | *cough*
the canadian supreme court said that should a majority arise that wants to separate from canada, that action is unconstitutional, but failing to allow said action would be immoral and on that basis should be allowed and ian, things not mentioned in the constitution are not unconstitutional, that's why we have amendments, to define whether or not newly arising issues are indeed constitutional. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Nov 22, 2005 @ 3:20am |
| Coolness: 339795 | yes, exactly. they make admendments to fix what wasn't covered.. because the reality is, that if it's not in there.. it's unconstitutional. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mdc replied on Tue Nov 22, 2005 @ 3:26am |
| Coolness: 148945 | in my own worthless opinion, countries need not define treasonous actions which lead to its breakup. look at great britain, it has allowed countless countries to secede grom its grasp. it has done so (more or less) with grace and nobility. it fought, but it realized that cultural differences around the globe are too great to bundle them into one mass. patriotism (or pride) is not always a good thing. if cultural discrepancies arise that are large enough to merit a part of a country to form its own satellite, then it should be allowed to do so. disallowing such an act would be immoral. it's like not allowing freedom of speech or religion. basic rights.
also in my worhtless opinion, i strongly believe that the french nationalists in quebec dont have such a wide cultural gap as to merit their own nation. there are plenty of different cultures within canada and we've all learned to coexist peacefully. quebec has the most freedom out of any other province in canada, its own constitution is not needed. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» neoform replied on Tue Nov 22, 2005 @ 3:40am |
| Coolness: 339795 | Originally posted by MDC...
in my own worthless opinion, countries need not define treasonous actions which lead to its breakup. look at great britain, it has allowed countless countries to secede grom its grasp. it has done so (more or less) with grace and nobility. it fought, but it realized that cultural differences around the globe are too great to bundle them into one mass. patriotism (or pride) is not always a good thing. if cultural discrepancies arise that are large enough to merit a part of a country to form its own satellite, then it should be allowed to do so. disallowing such an act would be immoral. it's like not allowing freedom of speech or religion. basic rights. Methinks you shouldn't use England as an example.. the IRA might have to blow you up. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Tue Nov 22, 2005 @ 6:12am |
| Coolness: 92395 | "All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and when ever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you: digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning, full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed." - Watership Down, Richard Adams, 1972 |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mr_Frog replied on Tue Nov 22, 2005 @ 8:54am |
| Coolness: 97230 | Also, don't forget that the autodetermination of a country is covered by the International laws, which Canada is aware. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Tue Nov 22, 2005 @ 5:17pm |
 Coolness: 75400 | Originally posted by MOONDANCER...
"All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and when ever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you: digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning, full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed." - Watership Down, Richard Adams, 1972 Nice. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Tue Nov 22, 2005 @ 5:18pm |
| Coolness: 75400 | Originally posted by MDC...
*cough* the canadian supreme court said that should a majority arise that wants to separate from canada, that action is unconstitutional, but failing to allow said action would be immoral and on that basis should be allowed and ian, things not mentioned in the constitution are not unconstitutional, that's why we have amendments, to define whether or not newly arising issues are indeed constitutional. So by that same token, Montreal, under some sort of vote COULD also in turn seperate from Quebec, because to not allow us to would be immoral. |
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