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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 2:49pm |
 Coolness: 75345 | I never have, and never will, let a location make or break my night. Like I said, events at Gravity are not raves, silly to think of them as such. I know that going in the door. Its gonna be a different type of fun that I have then the fun I'll have at a rave. I prefer raves, but that doesn't mean I'll never go to Gravity. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 4:11pm |
 Coolness: 229750 | These guys seperated the promoters and the people who were doing the setup from their gear and their belongings. They forced us all out of the venue into the hall and would not allow us to collect our things.. This was during the event setup process NOT during the EVENT! We had distributed our items around since we were hanging UV lights, placing deco and generally preparing for the public to arrive. They did not wait for the doors to open, they did not give us a chance to pick up our backpacks and jackets, they said, EVERYONE OUT NOW! Back away from your belongings, get out into the hall and then they shut the doors behind us. We were all forced to wait outside while they went through our tiems one by one, moving them around, and doing who knows what.. They could have stolen phone numbers from our personal phone books, they could have read messages on our cell phones, they could have pissed on our jackets or planted drugs in our items if they wanted, and they did it all with no witnisses.
I'm hardly pissed that my hit and a half of lsd was taken(it was obviously not enough to traffic) I am pissed that I was not given the right to gather my belongings before being herded around and that my items were searched without witness. I am perfectly ok with someone searching my person in front of witnisses and having my chemicals confiscated if found in my presence during a standard search, this would have been fine with me and I would have taken it with a smile and an "ok, you got me, I'm so dumb to have not hidden it better"! They did not do this however! Let's take a bullet point list of how things work (from my perspective anyway, just MHO) 1. Promoter pays venue owners for the lease of a space for a duration of time.. This puts the space in the temporary control of the promoter and also puts the staff of said space into the same control, the staff becomes temporarily employees of the promoter, they take direction from said promoter and they follow said direction as long as it does not set fire to the place or conflict with legal stipulations. 2. The confiscation of anything chemical during an event at said venue is by law, to be turned over to the authorities and then disposed of by the authorities (I bet this has never once happened there) 2. LEts pretend that the only reason that the drugs are being confiscated at the DOOR, is to avoid trafficking within the club, this would suggest that only individuals with a traffickable amount of chemicals would have thier items removed from thier person since they obviously carry an amount that's suggestive of trafficking.. Thus anyone with a dime of pot, a single hit of lsd, a single mdma cap or some such small quantity would be allowed, through respect to keep thier little bit of whatever, since they likely are never going to bring one hit of speed to sell.. why would they buy one to sell one.. theirs no profit in that. RESPECT individuals if youre just trying to stop people from taking business away from your house dealer. 3. Before the event begins, the only people who are in the place are direct clients of the venue, they are the people who surround the promoter, the Promoters, DJs, VJs, Deco Artists and volunteers who are setting up the event, the people directly responsible for bringing the event to the venue in the first place. At gravity I seem to recall the lease amount to be somewhere around 7 thousand dollars for ten hours? So right off the top, these people are direct customers to the venue, without their presence, without thier contract, the venue would have no reason to open, no reason to be present, no profit for this ten hour period, these people are deserving of the majority of the respect from the venue owners and staff since for the night, the venue works FOR THEM! Do these people get searched on entry? NO, they got searched three hours AFTER entry, they got searched without notice, without preparation for said search and without witness to the search. Not only that, the items searches were redistributed randomly around the venue into different piles and with no care. Do these people count as patrons or do they count as contractors..? 4. The coat check.. Since when do the promoters, DJs, VJs etc have to pay the venue additional money to check a jacket and backpack? Don't DJs keep thier pack with them behind the djs booth, don't VJs keep thier gear with them by thier computer while vjing? Don't volunteers and deco artists have the right to place thier things, without charge, where the djs and vjs and promoters store thier things? Isn't during haloween a jacket that's part of a costume allowed to be worn? NO!! Not only are these things not allowed at Gravity, the coat check is not even profit for the promoter! This is more money that the Gravity takes for themselves! (AFAIK) So, they steal from us without witnisses, they go through our things indiscriminaly, looking at and taking whatever they want, and then they force us to either pay them to place our items in their unmonitored care or force us to leave, FORCEFULLY! So they took my LSD, LSD I haven't even paid for yet.. BIG DEAL, I don't care if they confiscate chemicals.. IT's HOW they did it that bothers me, and the attitudes that came with it. They were likely all coked up and looking to get more drugs for themselves, not even for the "house dealers" so they could have something to talk and laugh about for the rest of the promoters time there.. while watching everyone who theyve stolen from make use of thier space and but their own chemicals back from them.. Bleh, This ain't over, not by a long shot, they're gonna feel this, they just don't realize it yet. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 4:22pm |
 Coolness: 92340 | Originally posted by HUNAB KU...
Don't DJs keep thier pack with them behind the djs booth, don't VJs keep thier gear with them by thier computer while vjing? Don't volunteers and deco artists have the right to place thier things, without charge, where the djs and vjs and promoters store thier things? that was the problem last time. ur better off checking ur stuff anyway cause the employees have permission to take anythign they find lying around, and accordign to one little joe blow who worked their one night, even if the night is far from over, and even if it's behind the d.j booth. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» M-A-X replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 4:38pm |
 Coolness: 121710 | maybe we can do terrorism or sabotage again the Gravity and call our self ''The Raving Jihad''.
lol |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» the_rider replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 4:56pm |
 Coolness: 42320 | Business is business, not everyone is plur in this world. people get killed or hurt doing business. You're lucky, you lose stuff and money, not your health.
Some people are less tolerant. By introducing stock into their territory, you took a big risk. It could have been worse. Consider yourself that you have been warned. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 5:19pm |
 Coolness: 52505 | The situation really sucks, but what can you expect? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mali replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 5:34pm |
 Coolness: 202190 | Originally posted by MOONDANCER...
That's a wonderful thing to say after being GIVEN someone's STOLEN wardrobe!!!! The stealing people's bags and giving people's clothes out was wrong. But in this guy's situtation they just took his drugs, they didn't steal the rest of his shit. But true someone should of been there to witness it. Drugs are illegal, if they see just one mdma (even if it is just for you) they are going to take it, and they have a right to. As for Dave giving me the clothes, ALEX, I didn't know where they came from, and when I found out they were stolen I gave them back. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 7:32pm |
| Coolness: 229750 | Drugs are illegal yep.. and if they turned them over to the police for legal disposal they'd be ok by me.. does anyone have proof that that's what was done? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» soyfunk replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 7:40pm |
 Coolness: 126845 | "when there are dimes, there are ounces. when there are ounces, there are kilos. when there are kilos, there are guns"
- Tricky wise up children |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 7:43pm |
| Coolness: 75345 | They probably (ok, DEFINATELY) do not turn the drugs over to the cops voluntarily, but if THEY get asked by the cops they say "Yes, we often confiscate narcotics, due to the frequency of this occurance, we simply dispose of them. However, HERE (hands over a reasonable amount 'confiscated' drugs) are the drugs we've confiscated tonight. Thank you officer." Like I said, the club is covering their own ass, making it at least LOOK like their trying to stop drugs from getting in. And you're also wrong in thinking the staff and venue are completely at the promotor/organizer's disposal. If there's a bust, EVERYONE gets fucked, party-goers, organizers, promoters, staff, and owners. Like I said, the owners usually (yes, this case seems excessive) just want to be able to say "We did our part, we didn't know" and pass the buck off onto the promoters. Which is worse? A few kids going to jail, or a boat load of jails, fines, and the shutdown of a venue? I'm almost positive (I've never seen Gravity's personally) that the contract the promoter signs with the owner entitles the owner and staff the right of search and seizure of anything in the premises, and since it's THEIR venue, and they have contractual protection, no witness is needed. The only thing you could LEGALLY go after Gravity for would be the missing cash, but that's impossible to prove. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cinderella_soul replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 8:20pm |
 Coolness: 56275 | I, too , copied this post from the I suppose original article. my second post, first one deleted.
The fact that they did it without witnesses other than their own proper staff is really going to far. Despite the fact, as I mentioned before, in the last post, that the clubs in general tend to satisfy themselves with pro-capatilist attitudes, They surpassed their authority I believe. They ought to have done it in the presence of those concerned. Since, they offer no guarantee of things, if stolen and just because it is common sense that no one is to be trusted. I mean, come on. They could have done it in the presence of those concerned. What do they have to hide? And if they felt that there might be problems, aggressive, and violent people, then they should have called the cops. I think they may have acted out of their jurisdiction. If I was the one who put on the party there and was involved. I would speak with them and tell them that we complied but we feel that it was disrespect and so on. ... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 9:35pm |
| Coolness: 75345 | Like I said, I'm sure it was well within their juristiction... they were just exercising their authourity in a very jerky way. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 10:06pm |
 Coolness: 201300 | man don't you know the rules? hide your drugs really well or buy them from the designated "people" who somehow are able to sell in plain view all night with no trouble whatsoever. Man such a mystery how anyone could get away with that *wink wink* |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 10:08pm |
| Coolness: 75345 | Amen to that. I am composing an article in my head. It's called "Plur DOES NOT EQUAL Naive Moron". I'm not into plur, and never was, but I never had a problem with those who were. But just because you are.. doesn't mean you have to be a naive moron.. you just wait... I'll write it up good. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 10:10pm |
| Coolness: 201300 | I wish I was a naive moron, It's a bad life knowing how stupid everyone is |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 10:16pm |
| Coolness: 75345 | I mean, the notion of Plur is respectable on its own... its people that just leave themselves open to abuse that really gets me. I mean.. Peace, Love, Unity, Respect... ok... let's see... you're into it and some fella' with a constant eyetwitch and skidmarks down his arms and obvious herpes offers you a needle filled with "the good shit"... do you shove it in your arm!? NO! You can maybe show him some love and point him at rehab, you can respect him enough not to punch him the face like the fucked up junkie he is (see also: "peace") and you can.. I dunno... stand united with him in line at the AIDS clinic... but don't shove the needle in your fucking arm... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope replied on Tue Nov 1, 2005 @ 12:27am |
| Coolness: 201300 | People who use the word "plur" should be euthanized. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico replied on Tue Nov 1, 2005 @ 12:34am |
 Coolness: 150535 | P.L.U.R
I Wuv you Scotty P! Yay! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Tue Nov 1, 2005 @ 1:19am |
| Coolness: 75345 | Originally posted by SCOTTYP...
People who use the word "plur" should be euthanized. Euthanasia is assisted suicide right, so... you'd have to get them to ask you to kill them... maybe tell them that you're a killer, and they should respect your need to kill.. or something.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Tue Nov 1, 2005 @ 2:53am |
| Coolness: 92340 | not if they're in a coma |
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