Boycott Gravity After Hours
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Souldah replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 12:01pm |
 Coolness: 48325 | im sorry but thats were u beat up the bouncers and wreck the place when they call for backup.
Im no longer allowed in cheers for raiding the top floor when someone insulted the bride too be of a friend. Bouncers are filled with creotine most of the time anyway so they just LOOK big but arent when it comes too muscle, actually strong. And the best way to have put down gravity was too try and get ur stuff back get your assed kick(mabye) in the process giving you liabable reason that no one can ignore too sue the place. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» moondancer replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 12:06pm |
 Coolness: 92340 | I'd have to agree with the Boony-headed trailer trash fucks from the other side of the island part. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 12:32pm |
 Coolness: 51045 | although i dont agree with or support corrupt club owners or their supposed exploitation of patrons, what do you really expect in the end? ransacking of bags at gravity is not a new thing...we've seen it before, so why would you be surprised that it would happen again, nevermind the question of why in gods name you would leave your dope and cash in your bag, in a public place's coatcheck in the 1st place? i mean, if youre gonna willfully be that naive, then youre gonna pay for it.
gravity is no more guilty of these supposed crimes than 514 was back in the day, or redlite, for 2 examples. and 514's days are pretty much over so if you wan to take that as an example of just desserts, then gravity will eventually get theirs i guess..... as well, it seems to me that threatening a club owner who you strongly suspect of having ties to organized crime, via a public message board where your ID can be back tracked isnt the smartest course of action. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BA_Baracus replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 1:20pm |
 Coolness: 121110 | so can i get a quick resume of what the deal is here?
i m not down with gravity anymore but uhhh what was i gonna say oh yeah is it turning into a place called space 32? i saw an add in the mirror, isnt gravity 32 ste catherine ouest? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elka replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 1:22pm |
| Coolness: 52505 | Originally posted by PETERPARKER...
so can i get a quick resume of what the deal is here? i m not down with gravity anymore but uhhh what was i gonna say oh yeah is it turning into a place called space 32? i saw an add in the mirror, isnt gravity 32 ste catherine ouest? ya. i saw that too today. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 1:28pm |
 Coolness: 75345 | (This is the same thing I posted as a response to Hunab Ku's article)
I read this yesterday, and have now re-read it and read all the comments. I want some clarity though. I mean, taking your drugs is one thing, I've had many a long conversation with club security and staff. Afterhours, clubs, and promoters need to be able to tell police that they did "everything they could" to keep drugs out of the venue. That's why even underground rave flyers say "no drugs", because they can't legally endorse it. Case and point, I dropped my baggy full of pills at Aria last night and a bouncer smiled at me, shook his head, and asked me to hand it over, I shrugged and complied. He just sorta looked at it, said "this is just for you, right?" and I said "yeah", he gave it back no problem. He was concerned I might be dealing, which in an afterhours is a no-no. Of course, he could've just taken it. But I digress... what worries me is that they apparently took your cash too. The lure of Gravity is obvious, good bathroom facilities, built-in security, no fire-hazard or sound issues, lots of concerns when organizing an event just disappear if you hold it at Gravity. At the same time, I don't think of an event at Gravity as a "rave" it's somewhere in the middle, half rave, half afterhours. With that in mind, I act accordingly. I take efforts to conceal my drugs the same way I would an afterhours, I don't let my guard down the way I would at a rave, and I don't offer my trust to anyone I don't know personally, especially when it comes to drugs, my stuff, or my cash. Your situation sucks, but I can see why it happened. I'd like to know the full story, even though that'd probably be impossible. The involvement of cops, the promotors, the organizers, the staff, the owner... a million things might've gone on behind the scenes and lead up to the end result. I feel for you man, but I mean, if everyone just left their shit in a car or something, you wouldn't have a complaint and still had a great night. Shitty situation, but not unforseeable. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 1:28pm |
 Coolness: 299400 | space 32 is the saturday nights at dome. nothing to do with gravity |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 1:38pm |
 Coolness: 103330 | Originally posted by TRASHANDSUICIDE...
(This is the same thing I posted as a response to Hunab Ku's article) I read this yesterday, and have now re-read it and read all the comments. I want some clarity though. I mean, taking your drugs is one thing, I've had many a long conversation with club security and staff. Afterhours, clubs, and promoters need to be able to tell police that they did "everything they could" to keep drugs out of the venue. That's why even underground rave flyers say "no drugs", because they can't legally endorse it. Case and point, I dropped my baggy full of pills at Aria last night and a bouncer smiled at me, shook his head, and asked me to hand it over, I shrugged and complied. He just sorta looked at it, said "this is just for you, right?" and I said "yeah", he gave it back no problem. He was concerned I might be dealing, which in an afterhours is a no-no. Of course, he could've just taken it. But I digress... what worries me is that they apparently took your cash too. The lure of Gravity is obvious, good bathroom facilities, built-in security, no fire-hazard or sound issues, lots of concerns when organizing an event just disappear if you hold it at Gravity. At the same time, I don't think of an event at Gravity as a "rave" it's somewhere in the middle, half rave, half afterhours. With that in mind, I act accordingly. I take efforts to conceal my drugs the same way I would an afterhours, I don't let my guard down the way I would at a rave, and I don't offer my trust to anyone I don't know personally, especially when it comes to drugs, my stuff, or my cash. Your situation sucks, but I can see why it happened. I'd like to know the full story, even though that'd probably be impossible. The involvement of cops, the promotors, the organizers, the staff, the owner... a million things might've gone on behind the scenes and lead up to the end result. I feel for you man, but I mean, if everyone just left their shit in a car or something, you wouldn't have a complaint and still had a great night. Shitty situation, but not unforseeable. Word. Wise up, rise up, open up your mind up! Gots to watch out for yourself! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 1:48pm |
| Coolness: 75345 | Seriously... like I said... I wouldn't leave my bags and shit unattended at foufs, or blue dog, or any bar, or even a house party if I didn't know everyone there... just because you might consider yourself "plur" doesn't mean that everyone else is. Even at a safe, friendly, underground rave, what's to stop some jackass from wearing fuzzy pants, sucking on pacifier and then going through your bags that are piled up in the corner? Nothing. And nobody would stop him since they'd assume it was his bag... just because you're a hippy who loves everyone doesn't mean everyone loves you. Don't be naive, don't get abused. Trust is something that should be earned, not handed out freely. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 1:54pm |
 Coolness: 166650 | Originally posted by MORPHINE...
although i dont agree with or support corrupt club owners or their supposed exploitation of patrons, what do you really expect in the end? ransacking of bags at gravity is not a new thing...we've seen it before, so why would you be surprised that it would happen again, nevermind the question of why in gods name you would leave your dope and cash in your bag, in a public place's coatcheck in the 1st place? i mean, if youre gonna willfully be that naive, then youre gonna pay for it. gravity is no more guilty of these supposed crimes than 514 was back in the day, or redlite, for 2 examples. and 514's days are pretty much over so if you wan to take that as an example of just desserts, then gravity will eventually get theirs i guess..... as well, it seems to me that threatening a club owner who you strongly suspect of having ties to organized crime, via a public message board where your ID can be back tracked isnt the smartest course of action. we didn't get the chance to even hide it. we were setting up and suddenly these big guys appear and give us the order to move out of the room and leave our bags and everything there. and with no witness they take the freedom to search through each of the bags and take what they want. i think it IS a smart action to post here. us ravers should be aware of what is going on with the party money we spend. we can't keep this silent and act unaware. let's bring back the real raving spirit, stand united and party! it may be more difficult to find another venue... but please, promoters, i encourage you to walk the extra mile. for the sake of your party and your raver friends. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 2:03pm |
| Coolness: 75345 | Look, what happened sucks, but was well within rights. You were on THEIR property, your stuff, yes, disrespectful, yes, shitty, yes. Avoidable? Yes. Just be more aware, Gravity is not OUR place, its THEIRS, just remember to play by THEIR rules, and you can have alot of fun. Like I said, if you all left your shit in someones car, there'd be no problem. What if it was cops that decided it was time for a quick raid? You guys would've all landed in jail... drugs are illegal, and if you own/use them, you should always hide them. I mean guys, come on... Oz and his crew are not our friends, they just sell us a service. And they make the rules, learn how to live with those rules, or figure out how to break them.
When you get caught speeding on a highway, you say "Shit" and then you pay the fine. You don't blame the cops, you don't blame the road. You broke the rules, you got caught. I don't wanna sound like I'm defending Gravity, its just that you guys could've really avoided the whole thing if you were just a little more cautious about your illegal substances and cash. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 2:05pm |
| Coolness: 51045 | you should have hidden it beforehand then....like i said i';m still not condoning that type of behaviour, but if some people would have told me to leave my bag and file out, i would have lost my fuckin mind......someone else posted in this thread and said you shouldnt have taken that type of shit and he's absolutely [ right.....com ] is the 1st step towards acceptance.
and as for the real raving spirit, tell the bitch to gimme a call if you find her, havent seen her in a while. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FRANKB replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 2:05pm |
 Coolness: 103410 | Originally posted by HEATHER PIE HOLE...
I been to gravity a few times and I always been treated well and with respect. That's cuz ur hot !! bahahahahah! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 2:14pm |
| Coolness: 75345 | Originally posted by MORPHINE...
you should have hidden it beforehand then....like i said i';m still not condoning that type of behaviour, but if some people would have told me to leave my bag and file out, i would have lost my fuckin mind......someone else posted in this thread and said you shouldnt have taken that type of shit and he's absolutely [ right.....com ] is the 1st step towards acceptance. and as for the real raving spirit, tell the bitch to gimme a call if you find her, havent seen her in a while. I completely disagree. Afterhours are hand in hand with organized crime. You punch a staffer, you might live to tell about, or find yourself in a state where you CAN'T tell anybody about it because you're brain dead. We're ravers, not gangsters. Losing some cash and drugs is not worth getting your legs busted. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't own a gun, or a knife that could be used for anything other then cutting a steak. These guys do, and have no problems using them if you piss them off. And oh yeah, they're all coked up just to increase the chance of them getting set off. I was once asked to become a promoter for Circus... I refused, because it meant aligning myself with a whole group of people I'd rather not even get to know. I've never had a fight with a staffer, and they've never had reason to want to start one. I know the score, and I know what I can and can't get away with. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BA_Baracus replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 2:18pm |
| Coolness: 121110 | i didnt read all that above, and no offence greg if this applies
but pill n chemical dealers should get their shit taken n they should learn to NOT SELL DRUGS (except greens) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 2:19pm |
| Coolness: 51045 | oh i wasnt advocating violence towards staffers...anyone who's ever seen me knows that me vs. a bouncer is a pretty laughable affair.....i'm just saying dont take it laying down, thats all. very well may be that it would have happened excatly the same had everyone voiced their discontent with the situation, but walking out with no argument is fucking weak. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» trashandsuicide replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 2:23pm |
| Coolness: 75345 | My advice is to not get into or create a situation that would cause the staff to do anything more then stand around all night. Believe me, that's really what they'd rather be doing. Half the time they don't even get a cut from the profit of the sale of confiscated drugs, its just their job to confiscate them. They get paid well sure, but they'd be getting paid just as well (maybe a fraction less) if they just sat around and did nothing. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 2:30pm |
| Coolness: 166650 | my advice is to not go to places where they treat us like shit, because by doing so we tell them that it is ok with us.
and so this thread tells us gravity treats people like shit. now you decide what you do hehe. i know i won't go there anymore, no matter what the party is. plur alive! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» M-A-X replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 2:34pm |
 Coolness: 121710 | fuck Gravity, lets rave in warehouses |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» FRANKB replied on Mon Oct 31, 2005 @ 2:34pm |
| Coolness: 103410 | I agree anne ! |
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