Is Lsd Back ?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Psilo replied on Thu Mar 8, 2007 @ 11:39pm |
 Coolness: 82690 | LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL yeah u must know about it! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» metal_user replied on Fri Mar 9, 2007 @ 2:02am |
 Coolness: 41115 | fodrais juste un bon chimiste ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Fri Mar 9, 2007 @ 9:48am |
 Coolness: 153015 | et un bon labo, et un bon budget, et du bon stock pour le faire... |
| I'm feeling angelkoreish x 10000 right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Fri Mar 9, 2007 @ 11:31am |
 Coolness: 471815 | deny my experience as much as you want kids,
i've been doin' it for 15 years, i think i know what i'm talkin' about, i think i can feel the difference between 2cb and lsd, since i've done both about a hundred times dammit |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Fri Mar 9, 2007 @ 12:45pm |
 Coolness: 50980 | its all acid. its just that whatever you got that made you trip balls for 12 hours was a stronger dose, and whatever you got recently was a milder dose.
mushrooms, acid and mescaline (real, like from peyote & san pedro, not pcp mtl"mesc"), are all very similar in effect, so your comment of it being like a shroom trip is not incongruous. at low doses, its harder to tell the difference between those 3 substances that form the psychedelic trinity. you dont NEED a chemist, really...just do the blacklight test....it takes a second and it doesnt even waste your dose. Update » Morphine wrote on Fri Mar 9, 2007 @ 12:45pm if you did the test, then YOU would be the chemist. which is always fun |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Fri Mar 9, 2007 @ 3:48pm |
| Coolness: 153015 | you need a chimist to MAKE some not to test it ... |
| I'm feeling angelkoreish x 10000 right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Morphine replied on Sat Mar 10, 2007 @ 11:05am |
| Coolness: 50980 | no shortage of those in mtl |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» m4xom4x replied on Sun Mar 11, 2007 @ 3:36am |
 Coolness: 44305 | |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Mar 11, 2007 @ 4:05am |
 Coolness: 685600 | Fuckin' TUNE! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo replied on Sun Mar 11, 2007 @ 10:54am |
 Coolness: 146335 | yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee that's one of my few BEST SONGS EVER :)
I prefer the original music video, but I can't find it on youtube... well, it's for you, I have the dvd at home :p PS : I'm in love with Grace Slick :) |
| I'm feeling phd powa !!! right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Mon Mar 12, 2007 @ 3:56pm |
| Coolness: 471815 | chooooon , gotta agree
choooooon !! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WassUpOnEarth replied on Mon Mar 12, 2007 @ 10:56pm |
 Coolness: 47880 | Peut-être qu'il y en a moins à cause que c'était moins en demande ces dernières années à cause de la popularité des pilules. Je crois remarquer que les pills sont en train de perdre des adeptes et que le LSD redevient en vogue à Mtl. Ça se peut tu? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» the4thlevel replied on Tue Mar 13, 2007 @ 4:17pm |
 Coolness: 31415 | this is some history i pieced together. now i'm not claiming its the gospel truth and i'm not saying its bullshit either, but the last part, relevant to present-day demand, conincides with what i personally noticed....
Chapter 50. How LSD was popularized, 1962-1969 The creation of an LSD black market. Prior to 1962, LSD was a little known drug, available only on a small scale, and used by relatively few people. Substantially all of the LSD and psilocybin available in the United States and Canada was produced by Sandoz Laboratories and legally distributed by them to psychiatrists, psychologists, and others who certified their qualifications to use it. Each LSD container was labeled, as required by FDA regulations: "Caution: New drug–– limited by Federal law to investigational use." Throughout the 1950s and early 1960s, the supply of LSD for informal use had been uncertain. Sometimes Sandoz LSD was available; sometimes it was not. When it wasn't, users turned to psilocybin, mescaline, peyote, and other LSD-like substances. In 1962, a new tranquilizing drug, thalidomide, was also distributed for testing under the FDA's IND (investigational new drug) regulations to 1,267 American physicians, and reached hundreds of pregnant women. In other countries it was distributed on a far larger scale. A worldwide epidemic of deformed babies followed. During the next few years, the FDA tightened up its IND regulations, many states outlawed LSD, and Congress passed a new law further restricting the use of investigational drugs–– including LSD. Sandoz responded by sharply limiting LSD distribution. The new laws, the new FDA regulations, and the Sandoz restrictions were followed by a marked increase in the availability of LSD. The drug is only moderately difficult to synthesize in a modest chemistry laboratory. The formula can be secured from the United States Patent Office for fifty cents, and the precursor chemicals are not hard to acquire. The quantities producible are very great; million-dose batches of clandestine LSD were in fact produced. * (A million 250-microgram doses weigh about nine ounces.) The clandestine supply soon exceeded the domestic demand, and the American blackmarket thereupon became a large-scale exporter of clandestinely manufactured LSD to Canada and Europe. * In fiscal 1967, government agents seized clandestine laboratories said to have a production capacity of more than 25,000,000 doses of LSD and LSD-like drugs per year. In fiscal 1968, the production capacity of the clandestine laboratories seized was reported to be more than 40,000,000 doses per year. 1 Consumption, of course, fell far short of this production capacity. No estimate is available of the production capacity of the clandestine LSD labs that escaped seizure. In 1970, the Advisory Committee on Drug Dependence of the United Kingdom Home Office reported: "Probably the bulk of [British LSD] is smuggled in from the USA. We are told that users preferred the American [black-market] LSD and regarded the English product as inferior." The LSD smuggled into Britain from the United States was originally "impregnated into innocent objects such as sugar cubes, sweets and blotting paper. More recently it has been coming in in tablet or capsule form under such exotic names as 'cherry top,' 'purple haze,' and 'blue cheer.' " 2 Canada's Le Dain Commission similarly reported in 1970 that Canadian black-market LSD was coming "mainly from clandestine factories in the United States." 3 Since LSD is odorless, tasteless, and colorless, weighs only a trifle and occupies a negligible volume, few shipments are intercepted. Thus, by shutting off the relative trickle of Sandoz LSD into informal channels, Congress and the Food and Drug Administration had unwittingly opened the sluices to a veritable LSD flood. By 1970 it was estimated that between 1,000,000 and 2,000,000 Americans had taken an LSD trip. 4 blah blah blah the 70's, 80's and most of the 90's happened.......then: American LSD usage fell sharply circa 2000. The decline is attributed to the arrest of two chemists, William Leonard Pickard, a Harvard-educated organic chemist, and Clyde Apperson. According to DEA reports, black market LSD availability dropped by 95% after the two were arrested in 2000. These arrests were a result of the largest LSD manufacturing raid in DEA history. 
Pickard was an alleged member of the Brotherhood of Eternal Love group that produced and sold LSD in California during the late 1960s and early 1970s. It is believed he had links to other "cooks" associated with this group — an original source of the drug back in the 1960s — and his arrest may have forced other operations to cease production, leading to the large decline in street availability. The DEA claims these two individuals were responsible for the vast majority of LSD sold illegally in the United States and a significant amount of the LSD sold in Europe, and that they worked closely with organized traffickers. While this claim may have some bearing, the extent of Pickard's direct influence on the overall availability in the United States is not fully known. Some attest that "Pickard's Acid" was sold exclusively in Europe, and was not distributed through American music venues. In November of 2003, Pickard was sentenced to life imprisonment without parole, and Apperson was sentenced to 30 years imprisonment without parole, after being convicted in Federal Court of running a large scale LSD manufacturing operation out of several clandestine laboratories, including a former missile silo near Wamego, Kansas. LSD manufacturers and traffickers can be categorized into two groups: A few large scale producers, such as the aforementioned Pickard and Apperson, and an equally limited number of small, clandestine chemists, consisting of independent producers who, operating on a comparatively limited scale, can be found throughout the country. As a group, independent producers are of less concern to the Drug Enforcement Administration than the larger groups, as their product reaches only local markets. -------- the didnt mention canada in that last bit, but i think its pretty safe to say that if its a drug and its being made in the states and exported, then some is coming here. it seemed to me that lsd availability droppped right around the timeframe theyre talking about in the pickard-apperson case. at the same time, i find it hard to believe that as canadians we were dependant on US importation for the majority of our lsd. the fact that lsd is relatively easy to manufacture, chemically speaking, validates that last bit about independant clandestine chemists. montreal is a big city, and we have a big science & technology sector thus alot of scientists, chemists among them. then again, in montreal we all know the prevalence of biker gangs with regards to drug stakes, especially the high stakes. they control the ports, to an extent, and can easily get whatever they want in or out...so who knows, really. i guess the bottom line is the fact that lsd is illegal, and this is basically hampering the global effort to accurately report its history, not to mention the effort to study it in different contexts. it sucks.... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» gdrchickita replied on Tue Apr 3, 2007 @ 10:20pm |
 Coolness: 43420 | thanks for the great article, and i will disregard the pic.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» simpson replied on Sat Apr 14, 2007 @ 6:05pm |
 Coolness: 66405 | the best LSD comes from out west the stuff here sucks |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Psilo replied on Sat Apr 14, 2007 @ 9:05pm |
| Coolness: 82690 | LSD like to travel... |
| I'm feeling ~~springazed~~ right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore replied on Mon Apr 16, 2007 @ 11:26am |
| Coolness: 471815 | what he said |
| I'm feeling da bottom bitch ! right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» voided replied on Tue Apr 17, 2007 @ 11:02am |
 Coolness: 70690 | There's always been shit and there's always been good stuff.. the thing is to find the good stuff. I don't know how it is in Montreal... but I know in Toronto it's not as difficult to get as most people would believe. The last few times I've done it, it's always been a crazy experience..
[also, it depends on the amount that is dropped onto the blotter hit... but then again, there's been quite a bit of liquid going around here] |
| I'm feeling agent provocateur right now.. | |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Fri Apr 27, 2007 @ 8:40am |
 Coolness: 166585 | yeah and since toronto and montreal people mix up in the parties in the summer........ ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Tue May 8, 2007 @ 10:35pm |
 Coolness: 76720 | Well you can't find LSD 25 anymore at all because no one has a clue how to make it properly. Those arrests had a huge impact, I remember when the well dried out and I started hearing people actually daring to ask for more than a fin for a tab. However there are obviously chemists making some decent analogues, and I've had a few awesome trips the last few times I found acid. But if you ever try LSD 25, for example the really strong Albert Hoffman 2000 edition, you realize it's an entirely different ball game. A single hit of this stuff was apparently quadruple-dipped, and it kicked in on my fingers. I am not kidding. And it wasn't just a tingle, I started hallucinating a lot after picking it up. After dropping it rose up to ultra-overload extremely quickly, and no I don't have a rough timeline I was fucking tripping my ass off. My visual field was replaced with a sea of stars that acted as vectors for every object in my extremely distorted visual field. Long story short it was really intense. I had done five hits of White Clinical before this, I had done seven hits of California Sunshine, never really felt that it was worth it to munch a whole quarter sheet like some people have done, and most of the stories involving that sort of incident involve bizarre incidents with public nudity and the police.
What I'm wondering is if there are any stats floating around about what kind of acid it is. It doesn't get discussed often but I remember people in Toronto often being told by their source which analogue or isomer or whatever you call it their hits were. But of course I had an impeccable source back then and did it religiously. BTW, I'm sure most people who don't talk out of their asses regularly know this, but you can't put PCP on blotter paper, it's not the same sort of substance and nowhere near as potent as LSD. You dose acid in micrograms, and you dose PCP in milligrams. Big huge difference. Plus PCP is pasty and usually sells just fine as "Mescaline", which of course it is absolutely nothing like. There were a bunch of fleur-de-lys hits going around recently that came from rural Quebec. They were really amazing, and they had that same adrenaline rush buzz that comes with the acid onset, the hallucinations that are distinctive to LSD, and the duration of 12 hours that is typical for real LSD. Not up to three days like PCP. So um, in reference to some retard's post there, no I'm pretty sure MTL acid is still acid. It's definitely still around but tends to be a little hard to track down. I'm not surprised there's liquid in the T-dot, though I wonder if it's similar to the weak liquid I used to get back in the day. Sometimes I'm positive the sources must be local because some hits are nothing to write home about. This is where I envy psy-trancers, there's always some floating around in that scene. It tends to show up, as namaste noted, during the festival season, Toronto and Montreal mixes up during festival season and lo and behold I end up getting good hits. Thank you, Toronto, for the reliable drugs and the informed user population. |
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