Wonder if this guy survived his own 15 minutes of fame. Story doesn't tell.

I'm curious about that ''neoliberal raver'' thing.
Sounds pretty much the same as ''vegetarian meat pie'' to me.

Innovative. I like it. You're going to go far.

Butane? Wow! I totally want to attend the same parties you do!

Amen to that.

Yes. This time it's even more ridiculous. Basically, they are arguing about dots of percentage in a 3.3. billion dollars amount. Like there's not enough for everybody to be silly rich.

Well its another declination but I found it less interesting (gave me a stomach ache and a lot of hallucinations but not that much psychedelia). Same goes for the other declinations like 2ct-7 or I dunno what they sell im clubs now.

More or less related story: Once I me and my girlfriend at the time were short of MDMA and decided to buy one at Daome and it was cheap psychedelics we got, big time. We hallucinated and felt super restless and unconfortable as there was not MDMA involved anywhere near the 'E' that we bought there.

They don't let you in if you can't prove you're fit to survive on your own for the duration of the festival. It's actually strictly for battle hardened-warriors.

Pretty sure it's not Ibogain I'm talking about. I'll check the other substances and try to find out. I'll post it here if I find it just in case I'm not the only one interested. Thanks for the feedback.

I think what I'm talking about might just be those ''psychoactive drugs and had used them in his practice'' thing. Thank you for taking the time.

Well, it's kind of the same thing I'm looking for, but in the 70's. Ibogaine is used now in the same way and I guess with the same effect. But I'm talking about psychiatric use of 2-CB as far as 40 years ago, before it was a party drug, when Kraftwerk was basically the only electronic band around and LSD was a new thing, too.

And it was a successful experiment.

Wasn't there an experiment or project that used 2-CB in psychiatry to calm down and connect people with their emotions and the people surrounding them?

I have all that info in my head, yet I'm looking around and don't even find a trace of it on the Internet. Wonder where I took that from. You're not aware of what I'm talking about?

They mention it in the article above, but no source of course.

There, Dee. That's what I was talking about actually. It was never a widely-used drug but it was indeed created with a medicinal intent. You can see in the timeline that 21 years passed between synthetisation and the moment it was declared illegal ''for real'' in the US.

You know what? I can't find a source about the medical experiments... Weird, because I'm sure of it. I'll try to find out where I got that from :)

Nice article though! It's good to see an article that put forward the positive effects of hallucinogens and that correctly points out why 2-CB is safer to use than LSD when it comes to badtrips but clearly describes how it can be positive.

If it was me writing the article, I would've avoided the references to totem animals and stuff like that ;) That's very ''psytrance'' and actually (from my experience, nothing else) psycheledic drug use have very little to do with that culture. Sometimes I even feel like psytrance is stealing the heritage of people like Shulgin and Leary. But that critic is actually an opinion only.

But it's an interesting read for people interested in understanding psychedelics, I think. Good vulgarization and good advice, too!

Yeah, why would the cows be excluded from the PLUR?

2-CB once was a medicinal drug if I'm correct. 40 years ago.

Are you promoting your party on Notcoolenuf4here's dead body?

You caught me off-balance here. This might very well just have been a joke.

Wow! That's quite the picture you got there!

Basically (speaking for me): his crappy tracks (and about 10 000 other reasons all originating from this one)

I'm pretty sure they would be quite happy about it and that the Chinese government watches or was watchung more or less closely if it could make it happen. I mean, they were the one getting the big slice of the Plan Nord cake.

No, what I think is incoherent is the fact that Jean Charest would have alluded to Chinese military support in the case of conflict over who owns the Arctic. I think it is a fabrication for a few reasons that I'll expose. If this part is fabricated, it puts the whole thing (article) into the "Is it disinformation or not?" zone.

Maybe it's just a twitch that I kept from my university time, but usually when one apple is rotten, appears rotten or cannot prove that it doesn't have a worm inside, you should just discard the whole apple tree until solid proof is established. If you don't you might spread disinformation (and also get low grades for using unverified info).

So, why do I think the ''Jean Charest speaks about military support'' part is fabricated?


JEAN CHAREST IS NEVER CAUGHT WITH HIS PANTS DOWN

- Jean Charest is a really resilient political beast who lost only one election (as far as I know).
He did not do that by going around making incredibly explosive claims like that "China would military enforce Canada's presence in the Arctic" statement. Jean Charest always sticks to the message. He lies, but in a way that you can never prove him wrong in a debate. His technique of not answering questions is quite annoying, yet it saved the Liberals from disaster many times (last week being a perfect example). I doubt he suddenly went crazy and made a politically explosive statement like that all of a sudden. It needs another valid source because as far as I know that article was the only thing available to support its own claim.

That does not look good for the overall credibility of it.

ALSO, GEOPOLITICS HAVE MECHANISMS AND THAT CLAIM DOESN'T QUITE FIT IN THEM

If China ever wanted to express its desire to give military support to Canada, firt of all it would deal with the prime minister and Defense Ministry -federal level. They would speak to Stephen Harper about it, not Jean Charest. And they would have to go around NATO, which is an occidental defense organisation that Canada is already a part of anf that's already commited to enforcing Canada's frontiers. Russia and China are not members, as you can easily find out here. They're not exactly ''the enemy'' but kinda.

[ www.nato.int ]

So, I wonder how Jean Charest could make such a statement, that would be the equivalent of Quebec choosing China over NATO in a country that's a full-time, active member of NATO without even being noticed by anyone but the person writing this article.

It really needs validation.

I'm pretty sure it's not a complete disinformation article and some of the points it makes might be valid but I'm also pretty sure it's also a scarecrow article in some regards.


There are other points that can be made, but this post is already very long, so those should do.

Actually, I'm not even sure that NATO regulations would permit direct military talks between a member and non-member country. Otherwise, what would be the point of NATO's very existence?

Don't want to be a pain in the ass with the whole thing, but I feel like it's important to have the radar on when it comes to stuff like this.

I double-checked my facts. Jean Charest lost 2 elections. One last week and one in 1998 against Lucien Bouchard (can't blame Charest for that one as Lulu was sooooo hype back then)

Yes. It's all about dragging people back here and/or attract new people. I think this site has the most incredible potential for the local scene.

I need a quote to believe that this is anything but dementia. If this was actually true, I would have a lot less trouble swallowing the rest of the article, that's just a little too anonymous and not naming sources or targets... Looks suspicious to me.

But interesting nonetheless. I wouldn't be THAT surprised if every word was true.

I have a HAAARRRRRD TIMMME with the ''Charest speaks about Chinese military support'' part. A very hard time.

And no media picking up on such a huge statement while the support for the government was at what, 32%?

It definitely needs a proper source.

Actually, the Plan Nord IN ITSELF is not the baddest idea ever for an economy like ours. However, the absolutely insane way the Liberals were pushing it is despicable. They were selling our resources without regards to real benefit, in an improvised way. There was so many loose ends to the deal it was basically a joke. They even dared to call that ''Projet de société''

Thank god these guys have been sent back into the opposition.

Massive party is my way of life

I hope that it is. I sure hope they can't just browse Facebook like they were you or something. But I have this puzzling story...

A friend of mine, let's call him Christian, was recently arrested by the police on the charge of simle possession (a few speeds) after they asked him if they could search him all of a sudden and he said yes. They were just at the corner from his workplace, and when he went out for his break, they adressed him by his name and immediately asked if they could search him. His answer should obviously have been ''no'', but he told me the intervention was so surprising, sudden and unexpected that he answered ''yes''.

Anyway, the puzzling part is this: after they found drugs on him, they put him in the back of the car and started asking questions about drug dealers, pointing out that they knew he was a DJ and that he saw ''a lot of stuff''. They even mentioned that they knew that he played the Circus recently and that they were looking at drug dealing in the techno scene nowadays. Christian is not sure who mentioned the Circus first, but he's pretty sure it's them.

They offered to give him an informant number so he could turn dealers in anonymously against money and also to forget the simple possession charge if he cooperated. He chose not to. Good or bad decision, I don't know. But they left him a phone number as well as what I assume to be their badge numbers in case he wanted to contact them to become an informant.

My question is: how did they know where to wait for him (workplace) and his full name if they couldn't somehow have full access to Facebook?

I'm wondering if they didn't start some operation to arrest drug dealers and decided to intercept people close to the scene with criminal cases. Christian has a criminal case.

If they had linked his name with his DJ name beforehand and started an operation to get info on drug dealing in the scene, that would explain why they targeted him precisely.

But how could they know where he works if they didn't have access to his complete profile?

I'm pretty sure they don't have enough resources to devote to following every raver with a criminal case around until they find out about their habits. It's not Omerta. So I'm left wondering how did they wrap it all together in order to make such an intervention if they can't watch Facebook.

If they can, it's easy because his name, workplace and DJ name are on his profile. But his profile is as hidden as it can be.

So....

Any of you can think of another explanation for this?

I'm pretty sure the cops have full access to Facebook. I'll tell you a story someday about the cops that makes no sense except if they had access to private Facebook profiles somehow.

Those crazy killers never target the Tony Accursos or the Donald Trumps of this world

He's pretty bad ar trolling. Almost as bad as Ravepolice, but the bagofhate dude sure fails too.

Lame and pretty disconnected insults, as far as I know. Pretty easy to deflect. It's like a troll midget or something. Of course you can't feel good about yourself when you're so scared you have to hide your IP to troll a rave forum. So my bet is if this guy has sex, it's against money.

Ravepolice and this guy might be the same sorry-ass loser.

Please respect.

Me I'm just a broq. I'm THE broq though. Minimal shit.

Did you just call him a DJ?

I don't qualify as a worthy princess. Not even Mario Bros cares about this thread. Why was it even started in the first place is the thing that bothers me. ;)

This

It's all about rock'n'roll, baby

Because of you, basically. The dude thinks I should shut the fuck up about you and other trolls beefing everywhere on this board being fucking annoying. Also, we are not fighting as far as I know it was a stupid clash and I don't really appreciate the fact that you start a thread trying to light a pointless fire between me and someone else, especially when the conflict has apparently died off. Which is exactly the way it should be.

Also, DJing skills were never an issue at any point, so what the fuck would be the question at hand.

I know it's a subgenre. That's why it's not the same thing. A kid is not the same thing as its father, even though they are both issued from the grandfather.

Not accurate.

This.

And where are you from, if I may ask? Because that comment sure sounds like you think that Quebec or Canadian politics are inferior to other parts of the world. That would be about as retarded as to say. for example, that females stink. But I invite you to not get involved in our political arena whatsoever if you think it sucks that much to be us.

One thing I can safely say is: the Liberal party's fear tactics, the federal Liberal party's fear tactics, the federal Conservative party's fear tactics and also the genuine hate of anglos that is the core feeling of some low-level separatists (those you see at St-Jean Baptiste wrapped in Quebec flags full of their own vomit)