The Rave Scene: The Present Vs. The Past
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MariJane a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 3:12am |
 Coolness: 54400 | i mainly direct this to individuals which have experienced the scene for at least three years.
kids now a days...dont really know the meaning of underground partyes. i mean when i started partying some years ago...the underground scene was already dying...and now its almost quite DEAD. Things have changed...and sort of evolved for the worst...i dont mean to be pessimistic...yet it seems like its JUST plain reality. partying is just not the same...and suddendly i have a feeling its becoming or better said: its become a trend. does it bother me? yes. regardless my opinion is irrelevant...for i am interrested in knowing other ppls point of view related to this subject. -how can we improve the partys nowadays?...what do u feel is lacking?... -and finally...why do u think the underground is dead?...& can it be revived? (and please no excuses about the law...cuz underground partys is all about BREAKING THE LAW!) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» errorizE a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 3:56am |
 Coolness: 60875 | The more you've seen the less impressed you are. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 4:20am |
 Coolness: 282490 | Partying gets dull....at some point you just drain everything out of the scene if you dont contribute something. Thats something you have to look out for in the scene. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» The_Middle_Man a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 7:37am |
 Coolness: 49705 | If it was a trend, wouldn't it be really thriving? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» elixireleven a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 8:24am |
| Coolness: 73875 | what's a rave? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» little_sarah a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 10:09am |
 Coolness: 121475 | past: i used to go
prensent: i don't |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» blop a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 11:50am |
 Coolness: 200565 | i started partying in summer of 99... i think raves in mtl peaked over the spring/summer of '01, now ppl don't pop as many pills they're just doing white lines.
whatever. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» soyfunk a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 12:16pm |
 Coolness: 126805 | heh. you guys seem reluctant to anwser the questions
i started partying in the summer of 98'; i don't consider myself oldschool in any way at all and i've been very little involved always have a good time and still do as opposed to my early days when i used to party alone or with small group of friends who wanted to come along; things got a little different when i started meeting people behind the parties and got aquainted with a handfull of familiar faces cause of web forums like memf, montrealjungle and ravewave for better and worst; im glad i feel a little more [aware] whatever first and foremost i care about the music and about the dancing since i didn't go to parties for friends in the first place... i see differently in my observations i dig the diverse sounds and their individual progressions. promoters will learn to adapt to the masses individual needs (how long they can cope with loses and fines?) and hopefully care enough to support the underground sounds that'll keep doing their thing regardless before [raves] i used to gotto bling-bling hiphop parties; got sick of being involved in the drama/violence/hypocracy of my old entourage of good friends. never really like the music in the first place but it was all i knew. alex makes a good point: "Partying gets dull....at some point you just drain everything out of the scene if you dont contribute something. Thats something you have to look out for in the scene." i don't mind that the scene mellows out a bit; proves who the diehards are and who's in it for the trend or entourage.. just as any other scene; diehards don't die (graffity, sXe hardcore, skateboarding) DON'T FORGET TO HAVE FUN! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Oliver_TwisteD a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 12:28pm |
 Coolness: 85720 | parties used to seam more magical, probably due to the drugs.
these days it's only about the friends and music. if the music is good enough, i can dance as long and hard as i used to. Also, parties would be more interesting if there were more live acts. (of course i would say that. . .) :x |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 12:28pm |
 Coolness: 93135 | The future is whatever we make it, the past is a collection of instances, either personal ot not and nothing is impossible if the desire and effort is there to back it up.
I can only drop a line on K6, and the jist of it is, we haven't given up, we aren't going to. We will keep doing what we do best, as long as there is want/need for it in this city. There's a reason this city is on the map, scene wise, and I think thats an easy thing for people to take for granted. I for one say take a little time to realize what we got going on in this city, and if yall think you got some ideas that might make it better, talk to people, spread the word, do it up... Ufot-making a difference by providing good memories |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 1:17pm |
 Coolness: 102800 | underground parties?
a real good ghetto party was one that was held at redpath in 1997. spread the word.. no info phone line. Meeting at the park. so a few of us can go to the location at a time so it doesnt rouse the residents. Get there.. had to climb over a wood fence only to land on mud. Crumblimg, dead buildings, no electricity thus no light. there was no plumbing, no running water. all equipments were powered by a gas generator. Candles were everywhere to light the single dark dusty room. It was so ghetto that me and my friend were smiling too much and said that we will remeber this redpath party for the rest of our lives. Unfortunately that friend became a yuppy and left the scene a long time ago. Wats missing in the present day raves? Old skoolers that arent jaded, Old skoolers that gives out good vibes to the next generation of ravers, Old skoolers who DON'T DISS KIDS cuz how many drugs they take; they will learn eventually. You have to be positive and respect anyway im still having fun at parties. See y'all at 2k4 |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MariJane a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 1:31pm |
| Coolness: 54400 | i very much agree....and actually i do appreciate ppls perspective on this.
of course i still party becuz of the music...i believe thats why most ppl party...but i was not questioning ppls love for music...i was questioning how we can improve partys. i believe...just like nik said...that what happens is really up to us. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BA_Baracus a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 4:17pm |
 Coolness: 121070 | one of the ideas behind in da jungle,
was to try to bring back the ol school, underground, friendly, positive vibes at the monthly iDJs of course the open-minded/versatile crowd has been very important to how the parties have been evolving, even tho we miss some of the ppl who used to come dance their asses off all the time ;) oh yeah so my point was that its not that easy to get the ol school vibes back in effect or something to that effect |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» musork a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 4:42pm |
 Coolness: 49555 | ok Ive been arounf since the late 80s when raves evolved in norht america out of the underground wearhouse scene influnced by what was happening in the UK at the time. Ive seen these scene go from 200 people events to 1000000000 person events go from being called raves to parties to some thing called post rave or electronic music event. Ive seen the parties go from illegal venues into legal club spaces and back out again. Ive seen the popularity of different substance come and go at these things and the same about the musci happening at these events...
the one thing I will never understand is these kids who are always tring to live in the past always talking about in the day or talk about an old school vibe who cares about what happened in the past who cares about what vibe was when and where... electronic music which is the backbone of all this stuff is about forward thinking not about backward thinking so stop living in the past and we can all move on to a bigger and brighter future... :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BA_Baracus a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 5:02pm |
| Coolness: 121070 | i disagree
was woodstock 2 as good as woodstock 1 maybe a bad example but evolution doesnt always go in the right direction altho everything is circular to a certain degree |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» musork a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 5:04pm |
| Coolness: 49555 | no it wasnt and you just proved my point dont live in the past... why do a second woodstock
why try to relive the past why try to redo what was already done unless your going in there with the idea of doing it differently or better or with a new twist... there is no way one can relive a past energy or vibe... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» nothingnopenope a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 5:42pm |
 Coolness: 201260 | I have been partying since early 2000
I find the locations were better 2-3 years ago.. The genres are different now, trance was less exploited a few years ago, jungle/drum and bass events were not as common.... I think the only thing that changed a lot was me.. Then I was 16, now I'm 20... I don't think as much has changed as people think, just us. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» brat a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 7:06pm |
| Coolness: 40770 | I started partying at 15. I'm 21 now.
I guess I changed and so did the scene. I got over it. It was fun while it lasted. I don't think it was the fact that I stopped taking drugs. Because I remember Cloud 1 being the first of a long string of parties that I went completely sober and it was great. I just grew out of it. I still party.... just in Toronto instead ;) If Montreal started bringing Dillinja maybe I'd stay here. Until then... yay Toronto. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» djAmalgam a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 7:28pm |
| Coolness: 105825 | If you are unhappy about how the scene is, do something about it. Get some money and throw a party. Doing so, you will learn and develop a better understanding of how people think and how things work. If you wish to remain a simple client/party-goer, i recommend you limit your events because partying, like anything else in life, can become boring if it is overdone.
As far as genres are concerned, if you don't think there is enough old school sounding tracks, make them yourself and play them. If you don't like the way trance has influenced other genres, do something about that too. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» marbleman a répondu le Thu 27 Nov, 2003 @ 8:44pm |
| Coolness: 40190 | there will always be a feeling that the older scene was better then the current scene.
i heard it 4 years ago. and i have heard it ever year since. the scene has been 'dying' for years, but in reality nothing has changed except the people involed. the old jaded ravers get replaced with the younger more naive kids.. sounds pretty pretentious. but whatever... |
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