Anonymous Reaction To The Fbi Closing Megaupload
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 3:50am |
 Coolness: 685575 | Maybe Noah should change the subject of what the music section is, because everyone seems to know and understand that the Music and Production section isn't a section for just generally talking about music, it is a section for talking about MUSIC PRODUCTION (the Korn thread has nothing to do with how to produce better, or about someone's own productions) or MUSIC TECHNOLOGY (the Korn thread has nothing to do with new software, new synth hardware, new VSTs, etc..)
The Music Production and Technology section is a place for the producers and gear-heads to exchange tips on production, post articles on new hardware synths and VSTs, for DJs to post their mixes, for producers to post their tracks, etc.. It's *ALWAYS* been about that, or at least it has been since I started posting on Ravewave in 2002. It's never changed. That is the section for promoting MUSIC, for putting music to be downloaded, sample packs, VSTs, production tips, etc.. Is it really that hard to see the difference between a board section FULL of self-promotion or discussing music technology, and then think that a general thread about how shit some new mainstream album is somehow fits into a section about self-promotion and technological music production discussion? And if you look back, the only person here who even said anything about those shitty russian sites was YOU. NO ONE else was talking about them until YOU jumped in here yelling and screaming at everyone. This was a(n attempted) discussion about Megaupload, SOPA/PIPA/ACTA and how it will destroy the internet, and how the US Govt. went after Megaupload MYSTERIOUSLY one month after they announce that they're going to run a music service that PAYS ARTISTS to GIVE AWAY MUSIC! But you came in here and for whatever reason misunderstood EVERYTHING we were starting to talk about and totally derailed it into a "OMG YOU ALL SUPPORT PIRACY YOU'RE ALL EVIL YOU GUYS ARE THE REASON INDEPENDENT ARTISTS ARE STARVING TO DEATH!" You do this EVERY SINGLE TIME something like this comes up, and frankly you always will, because now that you're working "in the business", you have a biased view as your way of life and your job are challenged, and that clouds you from being able to see why it is that these things we're discussing about are extremely important. You just come in yelling and screaming EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. that we're all evil and destroying music and killing labels. The thing I had posted may have been an inflamatory jab at you, but if you look at what you're saying, it's the EXACT same thing that the RIAA and MPAA are saying to push SOPA/ACTA/PIPA, laws that are worded SO vaguely that they would outright destroy the internet. And then you yourself said: and i'm not talking of course about the guy who go on megavideo watching a sitcom with no toiletpaper ads... Why is it that the law should only apply to things that YOU think they should apply to, but not the rest? People still have to get paid for those TV shows. There's a HELL of a lot more mouths and families to feed with the cast and crew of one TV show than there is with the people involved in 1 2-track release from any major or minor record label. Does that make it OK to pirate the shows and watch them without permission? It's not something you get to pick and chose. "Oh, well, downloading music is BAD, but TV shows and movies, that's OK!" It's all or nothing; do you want copyright law to be enforced as strictly as it is being written out in the SOPA/ACTA/PIPA proposals, or not? As for what I do with my day, I'm pretty certain a good 99% of the board knows that I have Crohns. And yes, currently I am on welfare, but only because my doctor never told me SHIT about it, other than "here's a prescription" and then forgetting I exist, but I'm in the process of talking to a foundation that specializes in bowel disease for some help in finding things I can do, because it turns out that Crohns is such a severe disease that I am considered to be physically disabled due to it's effects. I'm not sitting infront of my computer posting on RW and Facebook all the time because I'm lazy and don't want to find a job, I'm doing it because I spend 3h a day shitting. 3-4 times a week I spend over 6 hours in the bathroom while it feels like I'm being stabbed in the stomach, and that's an improvement now that I'm on medication. As for what I do and what my specialties in technology are, I've been using computers since I was 2 years old. I didn't know how to speak or read english, but I knew how to do anything I needed to do in DOS back in 1982. When I was in grade school, I skipped grade 3 and grade 5, then I skipped Secondary 2 because, frankly, I'm a goddamn genius. I skipped grade 3 because in Grade 2, when the class had to read and do a book report on Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, I gave the teacher a 3 page analysis on how the book was an allegory for the Last Temptation of Christ, and how Willy Wonka and the Everlasting Gobstopper was a metaphor for Satan tempting Jesus. I was 7 years old. I was given an IQ test that came back with a result of 188 (now I only rate 135 though), which is why I was skipping every grade that wasn't a challenge for me. The principal actually spoke to me and my parents, and I was allowed to skip any grade *I* wanted to skip if I felt it wasn't challenging enough for me. I was 10 years old in Secondary 1 and correcting the math and french teachers. When I dropped out of Sec. 3, it was because I was bored with school and there's nothing the teachers could teach me. 1 year later I went to Adult Ed and they gave me a test to see what level to put me at in different classes, and the only two classes I got put in was Sec. 5 English and Math 536; I was outright passed on Sec. 5 French and EVERY OTHER COURSE OFFERED IN THE QUEBEC SCHOOL CURRICULUM on the results of a PLACEMENT EXAM! The only reason I don't have a High School diploma is because I got bored of the math, and only went back to adult ed again 6 years later, but then I got into drugs and raves and said 'fuck school I want to get involved in music'. So you want to know what my specialty is? My specialty is that I think on a level that you couldn't even BEGIN to understand. I see, hear, understand and analyze things on a degree that most professional scientists have to think in when doing PhD-level work. I was using computers at an age when most children have just learned to walk and talk, and all my life I have been extremely closely following technology, it's uses, how it's changing the world, and how it COULD change the world. I've been thinking philosophically and deeply about myself and the world to the point where I actively decided that I was an Atheist when I was 4 years old, because the thought of a God watching over us seemed like too childish of a thing to me, and the bible left too many unaswered questions. as for: Originally Posted By BLISSS
So from what I understand Screwhead banned Omni's and Betty's threads but kept the Korn thread I'd say thats an abuse of power right there Nothing has been deleted, they've been moved to the apropriate section, which is the one that is specifically for self-promotion or discussion on things that involve creating music. If your Korn thread had been "How can I make my guitar sound like this song?" or "How do I make a synth like this?", it would have also been moved to that section. But that's not what it was about, it was a general discussion about something that's pretty shit. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 4:32am |
 Coolness: 158720 | wow you are really humble haha
how can you pretend yourself a genius when you didn't create nothing or participate in nothing? THAT IS JUST NOISE! i mean for now the fact that you are a genius is only a saying i mean you have nothing to back up your claims.. NEWTON WAS A GENIUS HE WROTE THE GRAVITY THEORY.. EINSTEIN WAS A GENIUS HE CREATED THE RELATIVITY THEORY... ZOLA WAS A GENIUS HE WROTE TONES OF OUTSTANDING LITT ... MMM? WAIT A SECOND CAN YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN WHAT MAKES YOU SO SPECIAL THAT YOU PRETEND BEING ABLE TO DO AND COMPREHEND WHAT MY FRIENDS WHO ARE DOCTORS ARE CAPABLE OF? what's the title of your published work again>? SORRY BUT YOU ARE EITHER DELUSIONAL or FULL OF SHIT BTW i had a horrible time at school too and i got a derogation too.. i was also in secondary 1 at 10yo..BUT LUCKILY FOR PEEPS AROUND ME I AM NOT A DELUSIONAL ASSHOLE WHO THINKS HE'S A GENIUS WOOW! to be very short i was emancipated at 13 and got a really tough time in life until maybe a decade ago.. and more to that your sickness don't really is a good excuse bc stephen hawking did create something and contribute to our society.. you.. beside pretending being a genius on welfare or what not you don't seems to do much with your IQ..(and im not referring to making money but just do something beside thinking that you are better than other...) and you talk to someone who have no left hand but type pretty fast and have camera operator gigs with the big guys like filming the wu tang clan and nas and cypress hill and all kind of cool stuff like that///so i mean i'm really not moved by the excuses who supposedly made you a genius on welfare.. and btw i though a "genius" would be a better DJ than you are. i mean for what i ear from you it's not like totally awful but we are really far from the genius level that you pretend to be haha |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 5:09am |
| Coolness: 685575 | The way I think is more on the level of being a futurist than an inventor/creator of things.
Emancipated at 13, I only WISH I could have had that kind of luck. I spent a week homeless when I was in grade 6 and living in the forest near my house when my mother kicked me out and I wasn't talking to my father, both of which were violent alcoholics that beat the SHIT out of me every single day. I started seeing shrinks when I was 4 and stopped when I was 17. When I was 12 I spent 2 months in Intensive Care at the Children's because I was dying of Wegener's Granulomatosis ( [ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov ] ). 2 IVs for a drip feed and a third "tap" IV for taking blood tests, every hour on the hour, x-rays every 4 hours, every 12 hours draining my lungs of blood with needles that must have been 6" to reach the inside of my lungs from my chest and my back (front left/right, back left/right) and every 24h getting injected with some radioactive solution for an MRI and ultrasound. I spent almost a year learning to walk and talk again when I got out of that, and when I finally started living with my parents again I was getting beaten and kicked out constantly, bouncing around from parents to uncles to grandparents to friends and back and forth, and because of my health problems they wouldn't emancipate me. Would I have loved to do something important with my life? Yeah, totally. But I'm willing to bet that Stephen Hawking had a hell of a lot more help, encouragement and love from his parents than I got. I really doubt that they used to get drunk and beat him with metal chairs when he was 6. I doubt that his drunk mother had ever told him that the only reason she had him was because his father was going to break up with her and she knew he wanted a child, so she "forgot" to take the pill for a couple of months, and that she never wanted him or loved him and that he was just her meal ticket. He's gone through a lot with his disability, and come out on top, luckily for him. Me? I never had any encouragement from anyone. Anything I was interested in was "stupid" and not worth learning. I had the capabilities, but was never encouraged or guided by anyone to do anything. Have I got issues? Absolutely. But intelligence and thinking aren't a problem, quite far from it. As for my mixing, I guess it's up to the individual listener, but I know that Nathan loves what and how I mix. The only reason I'm not getting gigs is because I'm opinionated and I'm very vocal about things I like and don't like. You put me up against ANY DJ you can think of and I guarantee you I will hold my own on their level or better. You "heard" from people that I'm not good, well, do you trust every idiot that tells you something without questioning or researching it yourself? Why don't you judge for yourself if I can mix and what my track-selection is like. Go grab some mixes, specifically the ones by Screwhead or FUKNOYZ, the Plan C mixes are in there because of a bug in the system that I've been asking Noah to fix for over 2 years now. Learn to make up your own mind instead of taking what you're told by others at face-value. My beatmatching isn't an issue, and my track selection is the same style as what you'd hear from a set by Panacea, Cooh, Current Value, Donny, Limewax, Enduser, etc.. When I played a tag with Sickness at Heroes Vs. Villains, I had to change more than half of what I planned on playing because Lenny Dee already played a ton of the tracks I was going to play, so I guess yeah, if you don't like his track selection or his style, you're not going to like mine. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 5:25am |
| Coolness: 158720 | one word: RESILIENCE [ en.wikipedia.org ]
oh yeah i like panacea's music.. he's a cool dude i cross path with him in europe sometimes.. my husband is writing an album w/ him these days... and yeah... i never said i didn't like your selection or that you suck i just said that for someone who's a genius it's not like omgomgomg it's exceptional.. which is what i expect when i ear someone bragging about the fact that they are a genius.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 5:47am |
| Coolness: 685575 | I've got a lot of resilience NOW, but with all the shit I've been going through with my health my whole life, getting beaten and told I'm worthless for all of my formative years by everyone from parents to other kids at school, I never managed to develop it until it was entirely too late for me to do anything with it.
And the problem with what "people" are saying is that they're more pissed off about what I'm saying about the music they love (the shitty wubwub dubstep and boring soft DnB) so of course they're going to say that what I mix isn't interesting or that I'm not an interesting DJ. No one here likes the kind of DnB/hardcore that I play, unless it's a big headliner that's playing it. Dogs on Acid, for example, love my mixes. Ok, compared to 'big-name headliners' 600 mix downloads isn't anything special, but for some nobody in Canada, I've got a ton of fans in Europe and all over, and when I post mixes on Dogs on Acid they usually get downloaded over 300 times within the first 24h by people who LOVE what I put up. Really, it's just that here in Montreal the crowds aren't "into" the kind of hard beats that Cooh, Panacea, Current Value, etc. put out, they just want dubstep, electro and jump-up DnB. I look at videos for the Therapy Sessions and I wish we had huge crowds like that for hard music here in Montreal, instead of shit like Bal En Blanc. Montreal just doesn't have the crowd for what I play. If I was in Europe it would be a totally different story. I mean really, can you in your wildest dreams imagine 5000-10000 people at a 2-room hardcore/hard-dnb event in Montreal? It would be fucking amazing to have something like what they do in Europe with hard music, but sadly our ravers here just aren't ready for something that isn't pre-chewed and spoon-fed to them by the dozens of Beatport Top-10 Djs we've been flooded with. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 12:37pm |
 Coolness: 129705 | I love how you banned Omni's thread because you thought it was "self promotion"
Then you end up writing a whole book about your hardships, your genius and your dj style |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 12:37pm |
 Coolness: 108790 | If there's more than like 15% in capitals, I don't even bother diagonally reading it ; I figure there was some mental/hormonal imbalance while writing the post. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 12:46pm |
| Coolness: 129705 | There's nothing TOO read.
Basically Fred is a guy who has had a hard life because he has to take a dump 6 times a day, which somehow means he can't work, so he's on welfare. Ironically though he's perfectly capable of djing a party, but unfortunately he dosent dj a lot because he likes to piss off people by slagging what they play. That means he has alot of free time to download stuff from the internet, which is why he resents any suggestion that he may be doing something wrong. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 1:01pm |
| Coolness: 158720 | Originally Posted By DYNV
If there's more than like 15% in capitals, I don't even bother diagonally reading it ; I figure there was some mental/hormonal imbalance while writing the post. than get the fuck out here smart ass! caps lock can be used as a form of expressive speech as much as annotation or a bold letter text. so yeah trying to imply that i have some mental issue is real funny (and maybe the truth dun dunn dunnnnn!) but anyone can read and comprehend my stuff when i write at university so my bad english or all the lil cunt ass lil remarks like that is not discrediting any of my arguments.. i know that anyone who's remotely intelligent who read what i wrote here got my opinion even tho they don't agree w/ it.. or don't like people using caps lock... just makes you look like you have nothing to say. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Kishmay_Pinas a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 2:23pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 3:26pm |
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... and relax guys, I hate it when friends fight :/ |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 5:59pm |
| Coolness: 108790 | telling me to get the fuck out then trying to convince me... doesn't make much sense.
Blisss a set is 1-2 hours, maybe he tries to take a slot at the time he's not in too much pain. :| Maybe he exaggerate his pain but maybe it really is rehabilitating or maybe you believe him but you're just trolling. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 6:23pm |
| Coolness: 129705 | Lol...
Ok lets do the math, 24 hours in a day minus 8 hours sleep leaves 16 hours. 16 hours divided by 6 dumps is roughly equal to one dump every 3 hours Technically if he took a dump right before his gig, took 45 minutes to get there 15 minutes before his 2 hour set, he would finish his set right in time for his next dump Its tight, but feasible |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 6:27pm |
| Coolness: 685575 | Originally Posted By DYNV
telling me to get the fuck out then trying to convince me... doesn't make much sense. Blisss a set is 1-2 hours, maybe he tries to take a slot at the time he's not in too much pain. :| It's not so much the pain that's the issue. Any booking I take has a chance that I won't be able to make it, which I make sure to let promoters know. I live my life around having to be 1 minute or less away from a toilet that I can use, because for no predictable or controllable reason, my colon can and will just say "Fuck this, I was fine 2 seconds ago but now I'm going to unleash the motherfucking FURY!" It was worse and more risky when I hadn't been properly diagnosed/medicated (missed 3-4 gigs because of it), and now it still IS a possibility, but it's a little more under control, and if I take Immodium the day before and the day of a party, and don't eat for at least 24h before my time-slot, I'm uuuuuuuusually OK. My life at this point is pretty much ruled by complete and total terror the second I step out of the door to my place.. Those times when you get sick, like have a gastro, bad food, whatever, and you HAVE to run to the bathroom because you *JUST* got the "10 second warning before evacuation" from your ass.. That's how I shit now. I don't "know" that I'm gonna have to take a dump "soon", or feel like "Ok, my gut feels full, 10-20 more minutes I'm gonna need to take a shit". I *ONLY* either feel absolutely fine, and then suddenly OH FUCK GET TO A BATHROOM NOW IT MIGHT ALREADY BE TOO LATE!!! Imagine spending the rest of your life terrified to go out and get groceries because in the 10 minute walk there and/or back, you might suddenly and completely randomly have to take a gastro-level-emergency dump. Every time you go on the metro. Every time you take a bus. Every time you get in a car. Every time you go out to a party, or a bar or a club. Any time you're doing anything, you live in constant fear that for totally random and uncontrollable reasons, you could violently shit yourself if you don't have access to a toilet within 30 seconds. That's what my life has been like for the past 5 1/2 years. That's why I don't often go out. But despite that, I still have a passion for playing music or listening to music that's absolutely tearing me up inside because of this constant fear and terror I live in when I'm not at home. Despite the fact that I may not be able to make it to a gig at the very last minute, I still push myself as much as I can for them.. that's why I show up at gigs shortly before my set and leave shortly after. it's why I don't go anywhere unless I've got at the very least a lift back home. But everyone for some retarded reason sees me taking care of my health as 'not supporting the scene'. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 10:51pm |
| Coolness: 158720 | i wasn't referring to "people thinking you don't support the scene bc you don't go out" when i told you that you should do something if you are genius like you pretend..
you don't need to be a genius to go to a gig or implicate yourself in the "scene" like you call it. if you would be a technology genius and be able to accomplish and comprehend, like the experts and academic peeps, even your sickness wouldn't have stop you from doing things like mmm let say an open source that people would use of course for free bc that's what you want free stuff.. (i like open source bc i have the permission to use it..) and if you want to go around saying to people that you are a genius w/ no concrete proof or any tangible material/ideas to back your claim... well people will treat you like you think you're Napoleon Bonaparte.. and send you to the asylum (pew pew pew!) i'm sorry.. dude but that's reality in the real world.. so i encourage you to contact Mensa and i bet you can do all the testings by mail and such so you can stay in your house.. and come back with your membership// then i'll be ready to concede that you are a genius w/out you having to show me the immensity of what a genius input in a society are usually. i'll even send you free records from various labels to congratulate you. i mean i'm sorry screwhead contrarily to you i'm not even rude to the point of telling you that you are unintelligent like you did... i'm pretty sure your IQ is around mine or majority of peeps in population between ~70 and ~130// (i'm 124, lil over average..nothing real impressive) but yeah if you are a genius, i firmly believe that your high level of intelligence would have make you do something/create something of genius proportion! even you being shit sick (i m real sorry) and unable to live home... really weird the turn out of this discussion.. and nathan you know i have class.. i mean it's not like i'll jump Fred or will be in his face would be us being in the same room.. it's been what 8 years that at least twice a year we get in stupid arguments here about questions that has been on humanity's plate like forever (like agnosticism vs atheism) and that everyone know we'll never get has who's really right bc there is no definite or Platonism possibilities in our debates.. and more.. each times i cross path w/ him in a mtl event (tell them screwhead/Fred) i'm always very polite and say hi and even sometime chatted for a lil.. (so it's not like i bare any animosity toward the dude (not like w/ this other douche DYN v machin)* * of course that is a joke bahahah i am so funny. BEWARE DYN DYN I'LL COME AND GET YA WHILE YOU SLEEP. Mise À Jour » Holly_Golightly a écrit sur Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 11:28pm ps: oh and btw everyone who read this thread will laugh at the allusion that you made about me having a over rated sens of importance//
i am a pretty private person usually, i am still amazed about the things i wrote here about me or my personal life (around 2 paragraphs) on the whole entirety of this thread.. when you wrote like pages about you and your personal life and ordeals.. you totally deviated the conversation by trying to "win" it by arguing you were a fucking genius therefore i was wrong and incompetent! i feel used like a used condom right now by you using these discussion to pretend you are a genius. Mise À Jour » Holly_Golightly a écrit sur Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 11:30pm and yeah the only private details i talked about me was to mak an analogy and show you that majority of people have their problems and shit..
you can come from a perfect rich familly and be born with a "mal de vivre" and all so it's not like you are alone too. shake it up. be brave dude. YOU ARE A MAN! Mise À Jour » Holly_Golightly a écrit sur Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 11:35pm * and to have a mensa membership you need a minimum of 130 i believe so it's really a cool and easy objective to accomplish for a genius like you!
you should do it! Mise À Jour » Holly_Golightly a écrit sur Sun 29 Jan, 2012 @ 11:46pm and when i meant "shake it up" i wasn't talking about masturbation....
i was more talking about you putting you're "genius mind" to work for your good or the good of this world! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PonChalice a répondu le Mon 30 Jan, 2012 @ 4:28pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Mon 30 Jan, 2012 @ 6:56pm |
| Coolness: 158720 | what were you doing watching that!!! hehe portlandia?
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Rakoon a répondu le Mon 30 Jan, 2012 @ 8:38pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Termina a répondu le Mon 30 Jan, 2012 @ 10:47pm |
 Coolness: 86075 | Trent Reznor: The voice of reason.
"Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails, How To Destroy Angels, etc. fame recently took part in a very insightful (and admittedly lengthy) interview with [ Tunecore.com ] Along with his recent film score work, Reznor shared his thoughts on upcoming projects, the state of the record industry and more. When asked why he originally parted ways with Interscope Records and abandoned the traditional record company models, he offered: “Well [pauses], that time would’ve been about two thousand…eight-ish, somewhere in that neighborhood, and, the true reality of that situation was: the record deal that we had signed years and years before had escalating advances based on the current state of the industry when that was negotiated. Meanwhile, the industry has collapsed, and those advances didn’t make any sense for the record label at that point. They were astronomical compared to what an expected return would be. We were kind of presented with the situation of, “Hey, if you wanna stay here, let’s renegotiate something that’s more realistic for us in terms of an advance, or, do it on your own.” Now, at that time in my life, it felt very much like, “OK. The record business is broken. The model is broken.” I’d go through periods of having to look in the mirror and say, “Let’s see. I just made an album I spent a year working on. I turned it over to the record label to get manufactured. It leaked, and I’m online, just boiling furious, at fans who’re talking about how much they love this new album, that they just stole.” And then I’d think, “Wait a minute. They’re not standing outside my house, bootlegging copies out the back of their van, y’know, to make money. They’re sharing their excitement about songs I’ve written, and music I’ve done. And they’re excited about it. And I’m pissed off at ‘em, because what? They didn’t wait until a month from now, when they’d have to drive to a record shop (if they can find one,) to buy a piece of plastic they don’t want, then rip it back to their computers, to…man, this sucks. Ok, something’s not right.” Or they can buy it from iTunes at a lower bit quality, which at that time was also copy protected, which I was strongly against. It becomes very clear, if you can remove the emotion from the equation, that, OK. The delivery system is broken. And the relationship between fans and artists and record labels is also broken. I thought I was smart enough to get that right. What I learned is it consumed… The following years coming up to the present, have been spent trying to experiment with different business models. First and foremost, spending time paying attention to what consumers want. You know, it all sounds like market research and boring marketing-type crap, and it is, but it also became clear: nobody else has figured it out. And managers aren’t gonna tell us what to do, and record labels, it’s clear they don’t know what to do. And the internet at large, their proposition that everything should just be free? That’s great if you’re a kid at home, it’s not so great if you’re a content provider that’s thinking “OK, how am I supposed to keep doing this if everything is just free?” That’s not right, in my opinion. But nobody wants to be Metallica and, stand up and [say] “Hey, on the one hand look how rich I am. On the other hand hey man, you should be paying me, poor college kid.” Nobody wants to be on that side of the argument, including them. So, between putting out Saul Williams’ record and experimenting with the pay-what-you-want kind of model, which led to pretty eye opening and kind of sad results, in my opinion, to rethinking how one makes money. If I’m gonna go on tour, and here’s a concert ticket, I’m hoping you come see, you know what? I’’’ throw the record in with that, it’ll all come into the same pot. Rethinking different ways to get your message out to people, and also trying to be consumer friendly. What do people want? They want stuff that’s not copy protected. OK. They want to be able to share it with their friends? OK. They’d like higher quality digital files? OK. They’d like to feel like they’re getting some sort of value for their money? I understand that. OK. How do we make that all make sense? You know I’ve spent a lot – more time that I would like to spend in the last few years – trying to figure that out. And, where I’m at right now is realizing that it’s a tough road, and I think that we are in between business models. It felt clear to me that labels didn’t know what they were doing back then. But I’ll say, on the other hand: doing everything yourself? When we went independent, we went independent-independent. We didn’t go, “Let’s go with an indie label,” which has the same business model, but can brag about being an independent rather than a major label, as if that means anything. We went direct from us. That’s it. There is no label. The label‘s me and my manager, as loud as I can shout on twitter or anywhere else. And you realize the shortcomings of that, that you’re only as loud as people that want to listen to you. It is helpful to have people supporting what you do, and getting the word out, and, y’know, I don’t know what the cool record shop is in Prague. And therefore my record isn’t in that store in Prague because I didn’t know about it. I care about Prague, but I don’t care enough to go to Prague to ask somebody what record shop, and then strike a deal with, you know what I mean. It’s beyond the scope of what I want to personally do. So, there’s another long answer saying: I don’t know. I’m not disenchanted by things. I think in a lot of ways it’s the wild west right now, and it’s wildly exciting, and it’s interesting when something’s been disrupted this greatly, the record business. There’s limitless potential, but it also requires a lot of effort. I have to do a lot of things now that I didn’t have to do back in the day…” On what needs to be changed with the publishing aspect of the music industry: “…I started my career in the late eighties, where the template was: sign on with a record label. That’s you’re ticket to admission. You have to have distribution, they have it tied up – promotion, all the team in place. And then just try to work as hard as you can, and over time, what I was hearing when we were first getting signed was, by your third or fourth album if you get your audience, that’s what we’re aiming for, and we look at you as a Prince type character, with a career like The Cure, or Depeche Mode or bands that’ve been around for a long time and that will continue to be around. Ok, all right, I’m ready. I’m in for the long haul; I’m ready to do this. Then you start to learn as you see contracts. Wow, whoever went along with this contract originally, it’s not a very fair contract. Let’s see, you as a record label lend me some money to make a record, and then I have to pay you back all that money. And after I pay it back, you own it forever. Wow. And then I get to make this little sliver on top of that, if I’ve recouped. But you get to control how much I spend on marketing and other things I have to pay you back for. So, wait a minute. I could sell this many records and still never recoup? And you do all the accounting? And then when you don’t pay me, ever, then I have to spend twenty-five grand to audit you, for you to then tell me “Oh, yeah, we do owe you this much.” That kinda sucks. And then [there’s] the mysterious, purposefully convoluted and tangled world of publishing, and how confusing that is. And a lot of musicians, myself included, that just wanted to work on music, and hoped someone had figured that out. And you realize – just what you said – some of the unfair business practices and precedence that’s been established. And I’m not saying that no one should benefit from songs I write, or that I do all the work and I should make all the money. But I should make some money, and I should be able to clearly see where that money is coming from, if I did all the work, essentially. I wrote the song, I came up with the idea. But then when you see the industry start to collapse, which means you’re kinda happy to see some of it collapse, but then you’re sad because also my livelihood is in danger, and I think how am I going to support myself and a family in an industry where we’re essentially making typewriters, you know? Nobody wants typewriters anymore. Everybody will reads, and everyone still writes, but they don’t use these clunky machines and, ah shit. OK. I think the promise, and what I would hope more than anything, is that when we get to this new business model, whatever that is, on the record label side and also on the publishing side, [is] that somebody is strongly speaking up for artists’ rights when that starts to get figured out. And that in an age of potential transparency, that the actual content creator has a seat at the table, and it’s not ALL the things glomming on to it that are carving off their parts. Now, what have we seen happen? Is the iTunes payout model fair to artists? Not in my opinion. What I consider, from a consumer point of view, the next good business model, the next thing that makes sense, is if there were mass adoption of music subscription services, like Spotify. I think in an age of broadband connection being everywhere, everyone having powerful computers in their pockets, this sense of feeling- normal people feeling comfortable with the idea of the cloud, and their data’s somewhere but it’s is secure, it’s somewhere, and they have access to it, having all the music available in the world available to you at your fingertips, anywhere you want it all the time, that’s pretty cool. That requires some education on the part of those companies, to help people to understand what that is. But I think that could make sense. But is it fair to the artist? Not really. Look at the checks you’re getting paid from those services. It’s not an inspiring amount, and it certainly doesn’t replace lost revenue. But I think what you’re doing is a huge step in the right direction. On the publishing side of things, shining lights in those dark corners, and transparency, and the always-painful overhaul of when it’s time to shift business models. When something becomes outdated, there’s a lot of resistance to the painful realization that things have to change. In my case several year ago, sitting around realizing “Hey, that kind of hazy dream I had, of sitting around getting checks for record royalties for the rest of my life? From work I did years ago?” You know, Eagles style, “Hey, Hotel California, another billion dollar check shows up.” It’s not gonna happen. Being able to make a sizeable amount of money from selling a record. It’s not gonna happen anymore. That’s a bitter pill to swallow. Music is free. I don’t think it should be free, but music is free. I can right now search in Google for any music that there is, and find it free. And so can anyone else with above-rudimentary searching ability. That’s a fact. That’s what you’re competing with. I’m not saying it’s right, but that’s what it is. To not acknowledge that is being foolish. I think we’re in a time of transition, and I really hope that when the dust settles, and it starts to become clear, ”Hey, this makes sense,” that someone has had the balls and the integrity to speak up for the side of the artist. Without the artist, as you said, there’d be a lot less jobs around the music industry. It’d be nice to see, for a change, that the artist is represented in that. To many people’s surprise, not all artists are rich. Everyone that puts out a record isn’t driving a Bentley and living a Cribs lifestyle, in fact that is far more mythology than it is fact. And artists are good people to have around, making stuff that can embellish people’s lives. It would be nice to try to establish a new paradigm where there’s a sustainable lifestyle.” Read the whole interview over at [ Tunecore.com ] [ www.theprp.com ] |
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