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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Fri 1 Oct, 2010 @ 7:33am |
 Coolness: 166765 | if given the choice, my tax dollars would go to everything that could possibly help others, and myself. but, would make sure not one fucking cent went to the military.
but, to play Basdini's advocate: how fucked up is it that my parents, when living just outside of the city in Ile Perrot where there were no buses or metros, had to pay taxes for public transportation? that's bullshit. they then had to spend gas money on giving me a lift TO the bus. i call shenanigans! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Fri 1 Oct, 2010 @ 7:59am |
 Coolness: 106335 | To ZombieNathan, Since your parents live on an island, someone had to pay for the bridge to get on and off the island, no? That bridge would have been paid for with taxes, no? My taxes... Since most of Quebec has never been to Isle Perrot, and everyone has payed for the bridges, isnt it a bit like your parents having to pay for public transit with there taxes?
To basdini, I try to convince you when i have a little more time on my hands but i have a fealing that the only thing that really talks to you is money. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV a répondu le Fri 1 Oct, 2010 @ 8:58am |
 Coolness: 109025 | Originally Posted By BASDINI
make the case for socialism as you see it in as strong of terms as possible, convince me, Originally Posted By dynv
There would be much more crime & misery there would be if not from the SOCIALISTS and how much less the average level of education would be if not from the SOCIALISTS. Originally Posted By BASDINI
socialist never seem to get that for the economy to work properly losers have to lose and winners have to win, socialism seems to think that we should reward loser and punish winners, (ie. bail out and welfare for losers and excessive taxation for winners) all this does is distort risk and send the message that there is no cost to making bad choices. Originally Posted By dynv
basdini I thought we had different POV but I now see it's simple selfishness, next when people start stealing for food as they starve or workers do a stage-in to be paid (for what they already worked for), you'll be the first one howling in the streets to have police "do their job" I don't know why I bother but here's a continuation, as my arguments weren't convincing: Our society is partly created by private entities that without bailout wouldn't go to the extent that they are at this moment, do you know how many companies have bankrupted and reopened again? Or perhaps you think every private investor got it right on the first time?! Without bailouts, the business community would likely send a strong signal to be very conservative so would be slow investment and slow progress, rightfully so! About the burden they receive from taxation, see how much subsidies they receive and balance that out before giving a handicap compared to your southerner heaven. Another thing, see how much the government affect all the business process, so your providers and clients and even direct impact, as they would likely commission directly from it, then see how much more or less business would fare. About welfare, how about taking half of your next sabbatical to sublet your apartment (so bills are paid without you benefiting from it) and make arrangement to have another account dropping the same as welfare in and see how pleasant it is, then if you still believe how superior you are to welfare needing people, try with half or none at all ; also read about welfare statistics and apply those to yourself so you'll see half of those have collegiate degrees with little or no experience so go ahead and try to have a job with that ; remember to tweak your resume accordingly and remember what it was like to only have so much skill (what am I saying you likely have better education than that, so act), maybe do scouting beforehand and see how much skill those people have, call emploi québec and see their programs which include such people and pretend you're interested but just want to look around and ask question before applying or call fellow elite people like you that had to fire such unskilled people. Another thing, remember that ones support system play a great role in one education & goals so look into seeing how much welfare scum receive in comparison to you and see with a psychologist (hey you're rich, what's 50-100$ for you) how it would have affected your psyche and act that way. Remember when you end up your fun sweat shop job, or day of begging, or whatever you end up doing with welfare/no revenue to envision the rest of your life spent that way ; find a way to suppress all thoughts that you have an alternative life outside of that, alcohol is said to be good at making people forget, so you have a full 2 months experience. Hey here's a way to even make something else than a personal experience out of this: keep a journal or make vlogs, and don't upload it until you're finished as the comments might influence you, perhaps you can make a few bucks out of it publishing that or have an extra notch on your resume about social experimentation/application/whatever. Just as personal paths, a community path is affected by many factors and they all need to be addressed before making a comparison. Yes I'm partly blinded by faith to the left but it isn't all that. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» raisinlove a répondu le Fri 1 Oct, 2010 @ 12:55pm |
 Coolness: 63170 | basdini, what you describe is more specificaly communism. Socialism doesn't automaticaly have the state run everything.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Fri 1 Oct, 2010 @ 6:58pm |
| Coolness: 166765 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
To ZombieNathan, Since your parents live on an island, someone had to pay for the bridge to get on and off the island, no? That bridge would have been paid for with taxes, no? My taxes... Since most of Quebec has never been to Isle Perrot, and everyone has payed for the bridges, isnt it a bit like your parents having to pay for public transit with there taxes? Actually, the bridge that leads into Ile Perrot is the highway 20. The 20 crosses the island, from Montreal into the rest of the world. So, with or without the existence of Ile Perrot or it's inhabitants, said bridge would have been built anyway .. heh. plus, i pretty sure that bridges falls under 'Roads' and such for which there are already taxes being paid .. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Fri 1 Oct, 2010 @ 9:09pm |
| Coolness: 106335 | Originally Posted By ZOMBIENATHAN
Actually, the bridge that leads into Ile Perrot is the highway 20. The 20 crosses the island, from Montreal into the rest of the world. So, with or without the existence of Ile Perrot or it's inhabitants, said bridge would have been built anyway .. heh. So i guess peoples from St-Johns to Victoria payed for that bit of bridge and the offramp. If the engineers that thought up the transcanadian highway had had an ounce of foresight, the whole highway would have gone around Montreal and ile Perrot would be a bird sanctuary today. Originally Posted By ZOMBIENATHAN
plus, i pretty sure that bridges falls under 'Roads' and such for which there are already taxes being paid .. Yeah cus taxes pay for roads also... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Sun 3 Oct, 2010 @ 8:21pm |
| Coolness: 166765 | wtf !? i don't get the argument .. from paying for non-existent buses, to ppl in BC paying for a half mile of highway out of Montreal?
Foresight to have had the highway go around Montreal ? .. right, and around all the major cities while we're at it, so that the whole fucking country becomes a bird sanctuary. brilliant. and yes, taxes pay for roads. and school. and transport. and pipes. and the military. and paper clips for all the government's little paper work. and the cops. and the fire dept. and politicians' retirement packages. etc etc etc .. --- --- --- i dunno. maybe we should have the choice. "here's a sheet with the 5000 things that taxes go to. now, check off the 10 items you no longer want to contribute to, and that money will be spread to the causes you feel are worthy of your hard-earned cash" . Not that that's ideal, but hell, it would be nice to have a little bit of choice in our so-called democratic society. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Sun 3 Oct, 2010 @ 8:29pm |
| Coolness: 106335 | Originally Posted By ZOMBIENATHAN
i dunno. maybe we should have the choice. "here's a sheet with the 5000 things that taxes go to. now, check off the 10 items you no longer want to contribute to, and that money will be spread to the causes you feel are worthy of your hard-earned cash" . Not that that's ideal, but hell, it would be nice to have a little bit of choice in our so-called democratic society. That would actually be a good idea. I wonder what would happen to the army... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Sun 3 Oct, 2010 @ 8:50pm |
| Coolness: 166765 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
That would actually be a good idea. I wonder what would happen to the army... lol! they'd definitely need to go through even more cost-cutting measures XD like, shorts instead of pants to save material. Dollar Store Kaleidoscopes instead of sniper scopes. Guesstimation instead of satellite pics ... and the tanks are now made my Mrs. Anderson's 2nd grade class, from construction paper and white glue (with sparkles!) . anyway, fuck the military. massive waste of money. no one has ever attacked Canada anyway ... we'll just have to be extra nice from now on! :p |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Tue 5 Oct, 2010 @ 3:33pm |
| Coolness: 106335 | This is why taxes are morally non negotiable
[ www.wpsdlocal6.com ] Deep down in their hearts, most Americans are socialists, even if they say otherwise. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Tue 5 Oct, 2010 @ 6:27pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Mon 11 Oct, 2010 @ 4:15pm |
| Coolness: 106335 | Why is This GOP House Candidate Dressed as a Nazi? by Joshua Green An election year already notable for its menagerie of extreme and unusual candidates can add another one: Rich Iott, the Republican nominee for Congress from Ohio's 9th District, and a Tea Party favorite, who for years donned a German Waffen SS uniform and participated in Nazi re-enactments. Iott, whose district lies in Northwest Ohio, was involved with a group that calls itself Wiking, whose members are devoted to re-enacting the exploits of an actual Nazi division, the 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking, which fought mainly on the Eastern Front during World War II. Iott's participation in the Wiking group is not mentioned on his campaign's website, and his name and photographs were removed from the Wiking website. Rich Iott, second from right, in a Nazi SS Waffen uniform.When contacted by The Atlantic, Iott confirmed his involvement with the group over a number of years, but said his interest in Nazi Germany was historical and he does not subscribe to the tenets of Nazism. "No, absolutely not," he said. "In fact, there's a disclaimer on the [Wiking] website. And you'll find that on almost any reenactment website. It's purely historical interest in World War II." Iott, a member of the Ohio Military Reserve, added, "I've always been fascinated by the fact that here was a relatively small country that from a strictly military point of view accomplished incredible things. I mean, they took over most of Europe and Russia, and it really took the combined effort of the free world to defeat them. From a purely historical military point of view, that's incredible." // [ www.commondreams.org ] Originally Posted By BASDINI
you might disagree with them but are they really nazis, come on grow up, aren't you like thirty or something? most people realize that socialism is stupid way before that... I'll bet this Rich Iott fellow would creem his pants for an autographed edition of "Mein Kampf" |
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