Is The Underground Over ?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Sun 25 Jan, 2009 @ 9:23pm |
 Coolness: 166540 | i was just kidding, sorry, thought that was obvious :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Vegan a répondu le Sun 25 Jan, 2009 @ 9:27pm |
 Coolness: 38765 | Originally Posted By CLOWN
When you reach the point of making music for a living, it usually mean's your not underground anymore. It's usually a sacrifice to the "soul" to provide the mass with "food". It depends what kind of living you're talking about. I make my living off of music and I'm pretty sure that my poor ass is still "underground", haha. Originally Posted By CLOWN
Music should be a hobby, not a job. !!! What if I breathe music, and tiring myself out doing something else for the big portion of each day (instead of spending that energy developing my art/career) sounds less appealing than suicide? That might sound dramatic but at least I'm being honest about how I feel. I've done the other job thing to "save up for music". It just took time and energy away from WHAT I'M REALLY SUPPOSED TO BE DOING. Well fuck that! After being robbed, that's gone but I'm not a fucking victim and now I've just said "fuckit" and I'm doing my fucking art and nothing else. Now I don't even have the coin to get it going and I'm doing it anyways, and I don't even care if I have to eat less because of it. I'd rather die than waste my life doing something else that's supposedly "contributing" to society. *What* fucking society. Fucking fucking fuckity fuck fuck fuckening fuck. But if just doing music on the side makes you happy and you're able to live with that, go for it! Some of us are not in that situation. Originally Posted By ufot
if you are unsuccessfull making a living off of your music, then perhaps you should consider getting a "non-music job", patience is the key to success, and though in an ideal world, musicians should be able to live off of their art, normally that isn't the case in the real world, at least not in the beginning... "Patience" IMO is not supposed to include "not being able to fully get into my art because I'm spending all my time and energy on something else". I think I'm showing AMPLE patience. Ample. Originally Posted By ufot
Ufot-sorry, but the starving artist retoric is so cliche and old... Cliche and still very real. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear a répondu le Sun 25 Jan, 2009 @ 9:32pm |
 Coolness: 2603980 | Why does techno.fm still not show listener count to people... Are they scared to show that no one is listening or is there another reason for it... I mean even if 20 people are listening I dunno why you don't just show the stats... Every other station does... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Sun 25 Jan, 2009 @ 9:35pm |
 Coolness: 129715 | Slhsdfkdfhksjhs, if I'd listened to all the people who've shit on me & mocked me over the years for doing what I do or all the people who've pressured me to do something else (ironically for the sole reason of making money) I would have given up 10 years ago. I'm very happy today I didn't
Stick with your dream, continue doing what you believe in, good things will happen eventually |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Intoccabile a répondu le Sun 25 Jan, 2009 @ 9:42pm |
 Coolness: 64845 | " Stick with your dream, continue doing what you believe in, good things will happen eventually "
Damn right  |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Vegan a répondu le Sun 25 Jan, 2009 @ 9:42pm |
| Coolness: 38765 | :) I need to hear that sometimes.
I may be wallowing in the mud right now, but if I stick with it, I could be happily swimming in it later. XD |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Sun 25 Jan, 2009 @ 9:45pm |
| Coolness: 166540 | Mise À Jour » Nathan a écrit sur Sun 25 Jan, 2009 @ 9:49pm "you've got to have a dream...if you don't have a dream, how you gonna have a dream come true?" |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Vegan a répondu le Sun 25 Jan, 2009 @ 9:58pm |
| Coolness: 38765 | ...and it will REALLY grab my gears if (and when) some losers stop listening to my music if (and when) I "make it", for lack of me being underground enough, whatever that constitutes. ho hum. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» diss0nance a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 2:45am |
 Coolness: 48500 | "everything sounded like bananas squishing against spiderwebs with unicorn bleats over it." LOL
looking forward to hearing your set next month Erik... some really sick tracks you played Saturday. seriously dancing to that shit is the best high. and as long as there are still people dancing and getting off on it, it ain't over. "don't dream it, be it" |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Vegan a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 3:10am |
| Coolness: 38765 | damn straight.
Hey... I had an idea. If the underground is over, wouldn't that just make it even more underground? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 3:23am |
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I hope you make it, and make it big :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» diss0nance a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 3:54am |
| Coolness: 48500 | I listen to dubstep.fm almost religiously... never gonna pretend I know anything about it... but tonight I heard a track from some dude in LA doing dubstep/metal? wtf?! [ www.myspace.com ]
somebody gotta bring that shit up here the underground needs more guitars. kinda reminds me of the aaron spectre show in T. that went mad moshing ballistic... can't play drumcorps now tho cuz my kitty is sleepin and I dont want to upset him {boo} now how about some grimeyelectromoshcore please? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 4:11am |
 Coolness: 685585 | I just got myself a good setup with a low-latency soundcard, so you will for sure be getting some dubstep metal once I re-string my 7-string and get to practicing a little (I've played it maybe 30 minutes in the past 5 years..)
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» ufot a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 9:03am |
 Coolness: 93095 | Vegannibal >> I was not shooting you down for having ambitions of living off of your art or music, but being realistic is part of being patient. There is nothing wrong with being able to pay your way while you make music, and trust me it will take a lot out of you, but at the end of the day, you may learn more than you bargained for(I have learned a lot about people and business thanks to all of the non-music related jobs I've had). Combining art income with full or part time employment income can help you not only live well, but afford the quality equipment and resources you need to help form the craft to succeed.
Ufot-responsibility is not a ugly word |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 11:02am |
 Coolness: 221760 | Money is the #1 cause of coruption in this world. if your ambition is to make money with somethine, hence market a product, i'm sorry to say but you will eventually sell out (to make money)..
start by making the music (or loving the music) and IF you make money doing what you love than great.. but it shouldn't be the motivation to MAKE the music. that's all i'm saying. Vegannibal : If lets say, tomorrow, a big producer comes to your place and wants to sign you to there record label, offers you 35,000$ to make 12 tracks with them but tells you that the stuff you currently play is garbage and throws a "note pad" on your sofa and says "pratice these songs" and show up on monday at the studio.. what do you do ?? now, a normal humain who wants MONEY would take this chance (selling out to themselves).. if you say NO, then do you really want to be making music for a living ?? check it out from that angle !! :) Mise À Jour » clown a écrit sur Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 12:13pm BTW: for the record, i don't "work" for techno.fm as i am not paid for what i bring them. It's more of a passion and an obsession (like Na said) that keeps me stuck like glue to stuff like this. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 1:43pm |
 Coolness: 106110 | Originally Posted By CLOWN
Money is the #1 cause of corruption in this world. if your ambition is to make money with something, hence market a product, I'm sorry to say but you will eventually sell out (to make money).. start by making the music (or loving the music) and IF you make money doing what you love than great.. but it shouldn't be the motivation to MAKE the music. that's all i'm saying. Making music is its own reward, thats why so many peoples do it JUST FOR FUN. What can happen when you start playing for money, often times, is that you loose control of the creative proses, because whoever is giving you money eventually might want his say in how you do stuff. If you are strapped for cash, chances are you will bend your vision, or totally change it to accommodate mr producer. Some peoples have no problem with this, seeing as they didn't have much vision to star off with And making money is the reward they where hoping for. But there something to be said about sticking to your vision, its the mark of a real artist, a true leader. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 2:11pm |
| Coolness: 221760 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
Making music is its own reward, thats why so many peoples do it JUST FOR FUN. What can happen when you start playing for money, often times, is that you loose control of the creative proses, because whoever is giving you money eventually might want his say in how you do stuff. If you are strapped for cash, chances are you will bend your vision, or totally change it to accommodate mr producer. Some peoples have no problem with this, seeing as they didn't have much vision to star off with And making money is the reward they where hoping for. But there something to be said about sticking to your vision, its the mark of a real artist, a true leader. +1000 points for you DATABOY .. i totally agree and that's the exact point i was trying to make. keep the plur alive man !! ::) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 2:26pm |
| Coolness: 129715 | Totally agree with you Databoy, music is about fun, I wouldn't be in it if that wasn't the case
Although as has been previously stated, if you're able to stick to your vision and make a living off it then thats the best of both worlds :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» diss0nance a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 3:02pm |
| Coolness: 48500 | mad chuuuuuuuns!! hahaha that's what I'm talkin about!
for my second wish, how about a weekly breakcore/dnb/metal/dubstep/mashcore night in some dark corner of st henri? (rubs magic lamp) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy a répondu le Mon 26 Jan, 2009 @ 3:32pm |
| Coolness: 106110 | Originally Posted By CLOWN
+1000 points for you databoy.. i totally agree and that's the exact point i was trying to make. keep the plur alive man !! ::) Originally Posted By blisss
Totally agree with you Databoy, music is about fun, I wouldn't be in it if that wasn't the case The stars are aligned, the end is near. :P |
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