C'Est Quoi Le Gabber?
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Orchid a répondu le Mon 29 Dec, 2008 @ 9:21pm |
Originally Posted By SEX.IS.BORING
aye niaisez pas trop bliss, lui aussi y pourrait vous envoyer des killer bees dans un rave pour tous nous tuer Ha non... pas les killers bees :( | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Mon 29 Dec, 2008 @ 11:28pm |
Originally Posted By DEADFUNK
bah, associer gratuitement le monde qui aime le gabebr comme des neo nazis, sans rien pour prouver ton point, entre moi et toi c'est toi le con. C'est moi qui gagne! ...Because of the extreme tempo of the music, and the shaven heads and clothing preference being associated with skinhead s or neo-nazi s, some generalize that gabber fans are Nazis. Feelings of nationalism are quite strong among some gabber groups, and their bomber jackets were often decorated with Dutch flags. Many gabber fans are skinheads of various ideologies, but it does not dominate the style. [ infao5501.ag5.mpi-sb.mpg.de ] Deadfunk looks like an ass once again :) Mise À Jour » Blisss a écrit sur Mon 29 Dec, 2008 @ 11:31pm Please don't send your skinheads after me Deady! | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico a répondu le Mon 29 Dec, 2008 @ 11:56pm |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 12:08am |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mAd-kiloZ a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 12:13am |
chez pas moi ca me fait rire... serieux lalala i get a kick out of all this dissing shit... BIGUPS we got some pretty funny people in mtl. the second trashiest raver board in the world # 1 being:::: london's "squatjuice a foul and despicable place" [ www.squatjuice.com ] | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» giorgio_moisi a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 1:02am |
phew, problem solved! |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 1:29am |
Originally Posted By BLISSS
You make a good point though, I don't know enough about gabber to judge it properly . remember this from 4 pages ago? ...then suddenly we're back to generalizations. As mentioned before, nazis have gotten into all styles of music, so you cannot say that a style is for nazis just 'cause they listen to it, otherwise all music is neo-nazi then (especially breaks). Sorry if your article about the dutch doesn't translate into quebecois, for shit's sake... .. . | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 2:21am |
Originally Posted By GIORGIO_MOISI
phew, problem solved! It won't be until we get rid of all the niggers and the jews. WHITE POWER. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 2:21am |
its your music guys, I'm just reporting what I see and read
if your scene didn't have a problem with the nazis they wouldn't be making anti racist records to begin with don't get mad like I did something, its your problem not mine insulting me just makes you look insecure and dumb | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 2:31am |
thnx for your "report", but we don't have a problem here with gabber-loving-nazi-ravers. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 2:32am |
Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 2:43am |
yeah, because we so needed you to tell us that it was a slight problem in some European city in order for us to feel better and realize that this was a non-issue to begin with and was unnecessarily and accusingly brought up...what would we do without you? :/ | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 4:39am |
Hein?
Put "nazis" and "gabber" in your search engine, see what comes up This has nothing to do with me, its your scene, Thanks for explaining it more thoroughly though, I love learning about music :) Mise À Jour » Blisss a écrit sur Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 4:44am Another source:
On the negative side of the early gabber culture were the football Hooligans and neo-Nazis. Amsterdam and Rotterdam have an extraordinarily strong football feud which has even resulted in deaths (but not at parties). This feud, along with other football feuds, were brought to gabber-parties in which fights would break out. Also some neo-nazis started going to gabber events, no doubt attracted to the hardness of the music. These people who were a vast minority gave the gabber-scene a bad rap. [ www.czechgabber.com ] | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 4:55am |
coincidentally, I came across this typing gabber nazi
"GABBER.od.ua - Dj Mutante - Nazi Redneck Assholes Fuck Off [2008 ... 19 Jul 2008 ... Dj Mutante - Nazi Redneck Assholes Fuck Off download mp3 hardcore, gabber , breakcore, rave скачать хардор, габба, рейв. gabber.od.ua/blog.php?id=3521 - 20k - Cached - Similar pages" I do see alot of anti-nazi sentiment by gabber producers (which is obviously a good thing)... I'm curious to know though how any kind of a link between gabber and neo-nazis emerged... I did find a pretty interesting thread though... talks a bit about the general sentiment and total absence of tolerance toward racism and nazis in holland for example... there is also an explanation as to where the name gabber comes from [ www.hulla.info ] | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 5:03am |
Lol, I came across Mutante's track too :) Big up!
Yes there does seem to be a strong anti nazi sentiment in the Gabber community But that only reinforces my impression that there is a big problem to begin with I also came across this, an article from 2005 [ www.d-a-s-h.org ] Echos of neo-Nazism are spreading in parts of the techno scene, especially in the genres of gabba and hardcore techno. Music that has an extremely fast beat of at least 180 bpm (beats per minute) and is seen as left-wing in some places, has become a sort of romping place in the Ruhr for a developing right-wing techno-subculture. A development that was also found in the mid-1990s in the Netherlands, where Gabba was created. For a long time, the extreme right’s image was defined by a specific dress code. It wasn’t until 1996, when Hitler’s speeches were sampled by the Dutch DJ group, »88 A.D.R.«, that music started playing a role. Today’s German gabba DJs like »Kahlkopp« (now »WHIPO«) seem to have taken them as their role-model. In classic dancefloor, too, DJs with clever names like »DJ Adolf« have taken to sampling Hitler’s speeches. | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Lone_Star a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 5:11am |
You can question your source's legitimacy when the articles are coming from an internet group categorized as : "Main Page >> Dossiers >> Extreme-right influence on music and youth culture" aka "Far-right music".
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 5:44am |
I couldn't find anything concerning adr88... although there are some references to a hardcore label called adr (stands for aryan dance resistance)... from what i heard it's mostly oldschool hardcore/jungle...
kalhopf seems to be a punk rock band and i cant find anyting on whipo other than the fact he's affiliated with the said 88adr and dj adolf. I did a bit of reaserch... correct me if im wrong but this sounds nothing like... on another note some of those comments are really fucking retarded... i cant beleive anyone still cant have this kind of a mentality lots of this stuff seems like its banned... anyways... point is fuck nazis and racists... | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 6:18am |
Originally Posted By RAWALI
coincidentally, I came across this typing gabber nazi "GABBER.od.ua - Dj Mutante - Nazi Redneck Assholes Fuck Off [2008 ... 19 Jul 2008 ... Dj Mutante - Nazi Redneck Assholes Fuck Off download mp3 hardcore, gabber , breakcore, rave скачать хардор, габба, рейв. gabber.od.ua/blog.php?id=3521 - 20k - Cached - Similar pages" I do see alot of anti-nazi sentiment by gabber producers (which is obviously a good thing)... I'm curious to know though how any kind of a link between gabber and neo-nazis emerged... I did find a pretty interesting thread though... talks a bit about the general sentiment and total absence of tolerance toward racism and nazis in holland for example... there is also an explanation as to where the name gabber comes from [ www.hulla.info ] As much as I agree with what you're saying, stating the hullaboard as a source makes baby jesus cry | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» rawali a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 6:26am |
haha! yeah well we're talking rave music... dont expect BBC or CNN... anyways, yeah I agree with you I wont quote that shit as absolute truth... but some intresting posts nevertheless | |
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente a répondu le Tue 30 Dec, 2008 @ 6:40am |
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