Boycott Ups !!!
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 11:54am |
 Coolness: 221735 | Hey everyone, i’m not the type to complain about things and i am aware that this has nothing to do with this websites content, but i just had to express myself on this matter…
BOYCOTT shipping ANYTHING with UPS !!! I placed an order on [ AMAZON.com ] for total purchase value of 49US $.. it was a shippement from USA to Canada. My value included shipping fee’s already of aprox 15US $. When my package arrived, they had me pay 40.00$ CAN extra for BROKERAGE FEE’s. This was outragous and only UPS charges such ridiculous amounts. We all agree that duty has to be paid but to charge an extra 85% of total value on brokerage fee’s is just as bad a fraud. BOYCOTT UPS, please, as a business or individuals !! sorry for the rant !! party-on !! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:10pm |
 Coolness: 158740 | Meh, they all do it. I, for one, hate DHL for the same exact reasons.
Two things though, Vinny: 1. Why order from [ amazon.COM ] Product not available from [ amazon.CA ] 2. Some of those brokerage fees are indeed outrageous. You can apparently avoid 'em, though it's a somewhat complex problem (what with having to go around town to a few places). You'll still need to pay customs and duties if you want your package, but here's an excerpt from Radio-Canada's La facture website (in French, sorry): *************************************************************** Dédouaner soi-même pour éviter les frais Louis non plus n’a pas compris quand il a reçu une facture semblable avec son colis. Dans son cas, c’était avec la compagnie UPS. « C’était une pièce pour une motocyclette d’importation qui devait nécessairement provenir des États-Unis, qui n’était pas disponible ici, raconte-t-il. J’ai reçu un colis qui valait 27 $ et on exigeait des frais de courtage en douane de 55 $. » Louis a alors appelé la compagnie de messagerie pour avoir des explications. « [Ils m’ont dit que] c’était pour payer le courtage en douane. Donc, pour payer le temps de la personne qui a consulté le catalogue pour voir quelles étaient les taxes s’appliquant sur cet article-là. » Louis a refusé le colis, qui a été retourné à l’entrepôt d’UPS. La compagnie lui a alors dit que s’il ne voulait pas payer les frais de courtage en douane, il pouvait dédouaner lui-même son colis. Louis s’est donc rendu à un bureau de l’Agence des services frontaliers du Canada (ASFC) à Montréal. Des douaniers y imposent les tarifs s’appliquant sur les marchandises que les Canadiens importent, une formalité obligatoire. L’ASFC a organisé pour La facture une simulation du processus auquel Louis s’est soumis. Voici comment cela se passe: Le douanier consulte les factures, la description des biens et il remplit un formulaire sur son terminal; Le logiciel affiche ensuite les sommes à percevoir; Le consommateur paie ce qu’il doit; Une mainlevée lui est remise; Il se présente à la compagnie de messagerie avec le document pour obtenir son colis. *************************************************************** (source: [ www.radio-canada.ca ] ... Essentially, you'll need to refuse the shipment, which will go back to the company's warehouse (probably in Ville St-Laurent or somewhere hard to reach). Then, after paying duties at one of the Border Services offices, you can call the company, have them get your package ready at its warehouse "desk" and pick it up in person. Complex, I know, that's why I have yet to do it. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Turtle a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:16pm |
 Coolness: 68275 | Originally Posted By CLOWN
Hey everyone, i’m not the type to complain about things and i am aware that this has nothing to do with this websites content, but i just had to express myself on this matter… BOYCOTT shipping ANYTHING with UPS !!! I placed an order on [ AMAZON.com ] for total purchase value of 49US $.. it was a shippement from USA to Canada. My value included shipping fee’s already of aprox 15US $. When my package arrived, they had me pay 40.00$ CAN extra for BROKERAGE FEE’s. This was outragous and only UPS charges such ridiculous amounts. We all agree that duty has to be paid but to charge an extra 85% of total value on brokerage fee’s is just as bad a fraud. BOYCOTT UPS, please, as a business or individuals !! sorry for the rant !! party-on !! I pay for shipping here at work and i will tell u something, comming from the us u will pay brokerage and it is expensive! it isn't their fault, unless u have a brokerage firmclearing customs like we have..If u r just buying something off the net or whatever u will have to pay. It also depends on the weight and how big the package is as well....And where it is comming from so what u paid is baically normal even if u went purolator or fed ex it would have been the same maybe a bit more or less!!! Mise À Jour » Turtle a écrit sur Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:16pm when they say shippping is included that mean shipping to u not customs clearence... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:17pm |
| Coolness: 158740 | Heh, some of them DO charge WAYYY more than the applicable customs/duties :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:21pm |
 Coolness: 294945 | I never get those charge cuz I always take USPS or Canada post, if not I don't buy... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:23pm |
| Coolness: 221735 | i understand the idea behind paying for customs, BUT, UPS's fee's are 75% higher than all the other companies.
the perfect proof : I placed two orders, - one from amazon, total weight, 1 pound, price 49USD (p.s. Masa, no, it wasn't avaliable in canada). shipped UPS. - one from Hong Kong, total weight 7 pounds, value 33.18USD, Shipped DHL fee's for UPS were 40.22 CAN fee's for DHL were 11.61 CAN. BIG Different for small differences.. :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Shindy a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:24pm |
 Coolness: 171810 | happen to me too :(
And the UPS I had to go pick up the box was 45 min + car from my house... and it would have cost me 17$ more to have them ship at the UPS store near my house. Luckely, one of my friend worked there and arrange everything for me... But yeah, UPS suck. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:27pm |
| Coolness: 158740 | Yeah but clown, was it the same item/item category?
IMHO, UPS isn't less worse than DHL fee-wise. They all make a pretty good margin on the applicable duties and taxes. ... And I need to get friends in every big delivery company :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:28pm |
 Coolness: 152975 | i never will use ups, dhl or any other delivery services except post canada, dhl and ups made me pay fee, while for the same exact product, canada post didnt, in fact, i Never ever paied any fees with canada post, and i always paied when it was the others.
and ups & the gang takes double the time to recieve your package, canada post is the fastest, and its cheapest. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Daf a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:28pm |
 Coolness: 185325 | wiin ups me font aussi chier avec ces frais de livraison qu'il te demande une fois à la porte
moi aussi je comprend les frais, mais je crois qu'il devrait avertir ou ne pas faire ça à la porte, car ça surprend, si je peux dire ça comme ça exemple: y'a 2 semaines j'avais commander de quoi qui ma couter 400$. Quelques jours plus tard (c'étais une livraison express pour laquelle j'avais déjà payé les frais en payant la facture de mon produit) vers 18h, UPS cogne à ma porte avec mon colis. Super contente je le prend et le gars m'annonce que je dois payer un autre 108$ pour les taxes ou je sais pas... tsé c'étais un mardi soir, dans 3 jours j'avais ma paye donc j'avais pas tant d'argent que ça dans les poches, fack le 108$ j'étais pas prête à débourser ça. heureusement que j'ai pu le faire, car c'est quoi y m'aurait pas donner mon colis même si j'avais payer? tout cas, ça m'avais fait assez chier Mise À Jour » Daf a écrit sur Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:30pm canada post the fastest?
je suis en désaccord. Si tu commandes de quoi des states et tu fais venir ça pars USPS ("post canada" des states") et ensuite poste canada (une fois le colis au canada ça transfers) ça prend des semaines à avoir ton shit au lieu de 1 semaine max avec UPS |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» JojoBizarre a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:29pm |
| Coolness: 294945 | thats what I said!
MU |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:29pm |
 Coolness: 2603955 | Happened to me also... i bought pin stuff and UPS charged me 120$ brokerage fees... When I complained, they told me I could have phoned them and not paid it... But I'd have to call customs myself... 2 min instead of 120$... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Rakoon a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:30pm |
 Coolness: 175410 | on peut pas empêcher ça en écrivant "cadeau" sur le colis? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:31pm |
| Coolness: 158740 | Yep. Canada Posts rock. Although it being a crown corporation, I guess they have more scruples charging you more than the actual customs/duties negotiated by the govt :) Mise À Jour » Masa a écrit sur Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:32pm Rakoon, ouais, ça marche, mais habituellement seulement pour les envois de particulier à particulier. Rare qu'une compagnie va déclarer ton envoi "cadeau", c'est comme si elle te l'avait pas vendu ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Shindy a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:31pm |
| Coolness: 171810 | Originally Posted By RAKOON
on peut pas empêcher ça en écrivant "cadeau" sur le colis? Oui mais la plupart des grosses compagnie le fond pas parce que ce serait pas légale. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MURDOCK_ROCK a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:36pm |
 Coolness: 83845 | Originally Posted By DEADFUNK
i never will use ups, dhl or any other delivery services except post canada, dhl and ups made me pay fee, while for the same exact product, canada post didnt, in fact, i Never ever paied any fees with canada post, and i always paied when it was the others. and ups & the gang takes double the time to recieve your package, canada post is the fastest, and its cheapest. yeah right... canada post overnight shipping to t.o. takes 72 hours on average from my experience. i've never had anything arrive on time with canada post. EVER!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Rakoon a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:43pm |
| Coolness: 175410 | L'idée aussi de faire confiance a une compagnie dont le nom
est une exclamation lorsqu'on fait une gaffe |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» No_Comply a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 12:50pm |
 Coolness: 84905 | Originally Posted By CLOWN
i understand the idea behind paying for customs, BUT, UPS's fee's are 75% higher than all the other companies. the perfect proof : I placed two orders, - one from amazon, total weight, 1 pound, price 49USD (p.s. Masa, no, it wasn't avaliable in canada). shipped UPS. - one from Hong Kong, total weight 7 pounds, value 33.18USD, Shipped DHL fee's for UPS were 40.22 CAN fee's for DHL were 11.61 CAN. BIG Different for small differences.. :) One from the states, one from China... and? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» clown a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 1:02pm |
| Coolness: 221735 | you find it normal Colin to pay more for shippements from the US then from China ? the DHL fee's were much less coming from China !!
and yes, you can use "gift" for packages of value under 60$'s ONLY from person to person. UPS suggested i have my shipper change the bill to reflect HER personal name as apose to the company so i can get it refunded. if they can refund something, it pretty much mean's it's all profit in the first place. AND, Canada post works the EXACT same way UPS does when charging you duties.. the only work-around is "air Mail" but that usualy takes forever !!! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa a répondu le Tue 18 Nov, 2008 @ 1:03pm |
| Coolness: 158740 | Originally Posted By MASA
Yeah but clown, was it the same item/item category? |
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