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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey a répondu le Wed 1 Aug, 2007 @ 3:25pm |
 Coolness: 102755 | Moondancer,
I honestly think there is something wrong with your brain's left hemisphere. You failed to see by your own interpretive definitions, that you yourself are a Religious person. You adamantly accused of Atheism being a type of religion.... because you believe you are right and hold the truth. Isn't your monomaniac of atheism being a religion makes you a Religion? You are inferring that Atheism is a religion because they label and defend themselves... just like vegetarians, democrats, etc... You are blunderingly correlating atheism with religious beliefs because you clumsily believe atheism holds the same symptoms as religions which isn't true. Atheism is just what the word mean, not believe in the supernatural ( including god ), until you gave more characteristics than it doesn't have. You completely disregard semantics and to think critically because it doesn't suit your beliefs. You base your opinion based on your own flawed opinions of other subjects, without analytical thoughts and direct observation. And you do it with every other subjects this board ever talked about. i.e geopolitiks of the Middle-East. Maybe it is getting boring to you because you finally realized that is beyond you comprehension, beyond your capacity to understand a single word. It's a shame though, no brain for this beauty. Atheism is there because it's practical. Much simpler to say i'm atheist libertarian than saying I advocate liberty and freedom of thoughts and i lack belief in god. My previous posts are based on empirical factual knowledge, and your arguments are merely from your own volition.  |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa a répondu le Wed 1 Aug, 2007 @ 3:29pm |
 Coolness: 158760 | What the fuck is empirical about atheism? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey a répondu le Wed 1 Aug, 2007 @ 3:49pm |
| Coolness: 102755 | I meant to say.... I was referring to absence of empirical evidence to a concept such a god.
maybe this is clearer? I'm Atheist because of the absence of empirical evidence and no scientific observation to a concept such as the god hypothesis. The supernatural defies all common senses and cognition. you didn't have to use profanity y'a know. Mise À Jour » Trey a écrit sur Wed 1 Aug, 2007 @ 3:58pm okay how about this ?
edit: my previous posts on Atheism is based on empirical factual knowledge, on practical observation and your posts on Atheism is based on your own volition and on opinions. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa a répondu le Wed 1 Aug, 2007 @ 3:59pm |
| Coolness: 158760 | Heh. Sorry if I offended you. I guess.
I DO tend to get pissed about people demeaning others, physically or otherwise. God complex aside, I don't think it's nice of you all to bash on Moondancer just because she obviously did not study the subject as much as you. Mes 2 cennes noires. Mise À Jour » Masa a écrit sur Wed 1 Aug, 2007 @ 4:03pm Again, what's empirical about something as intangible as the concept of God? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Trey a répondu le Wed 1 Aug, 2007 @ 5:06pm |
| Coolness: 102755 | No offense taken.
It's funny that you called someone who is Atheist to say they have God Complex since they don't believe in gods. I agree i was harsh, might have be condescending towards her, but whatever i'm sure she looks down on me for being a "fanatic religious person ". I guess i don't have the same altruistic qualities as you. 
i am not sure, i don't quite understand your last question. maybe miracles? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa a répondu le Wed 1 Aug, 2007 @ 5:16pm |
| Coolness: 158760 | Meh, I was just trying to make a point; since there is no way to prove that God or Gods truly exist, the use of the word 'empirical' seems very out of place. As it would be with any other philosophical question.
God complex referred to you as an individual, not to your beliefs (or lack thereof ;)), and I'm mostly basing this assumption on your posts in this thread.. All in good fun anyway ^^ |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Thu 2 Aug, 2007 @ 12:13am |
 Coolness: 685580 | The Dragon In My Garage
by Carl Sagan "A fire-breathing dragon lives in my garage" Suppose (I'm following a group therapy approach by the psychologist Richard Franklin) I seriously make such an assertion to you. Surely you'd want to check it out, see for yourself. There have been innumerable stories of dragons over the centuries, but no real evidence. What an opportunity! "Show me," you say. I lead you to my garage. You look inside and see a ladder, empty paint cans, an old tricycle--but no dragon. "Where's the dragon?" you ask. "Oh, she's right here," I reply, waving vaguely. "I neglected to mention that she's an invisible dragon." You propose spreading flour on the floor of the garage to capture the dragon's footprints. "Good idea," I say, "but this dragon floates in the air." Then you'll use an infrared sensor to detect the invisible fire. "Good idea, but the invisible fire is also heatless." You'll spray-paint the dragon and make her visible. "Good idea, but she's an incorporeal dragon and the paint won't stick." And so on. I counter every physical test you propose with a special explanation of why it won't work. Now, what's the difference between an invisible, incorporeal, floating dragon who spits heatless fire and no dragon at all? If there's no way to disprove my contention, no conceivable experiment that would count against it, what does it mean to say that my dragon exists? Your inability to invalidate my hypothesis is not at all the same thing as proving it true. Claims that cannot be tested, assertions immune to disproof are veridically worthless, whatever value they may have in inspiring us or in exciting our sense of wonder. What I'm asking you to do comes down to believing, in the absence of evidence, on my say-so. The only thing you've really learned from my insistence that there's a dragon in my garage is that something funny is going on inside my head. You'd wonder, if no physical tests apply, what convinced me. The possibility that it was a dream or a hallucination would certainly enter your mind. But then, why am I taking it so seriously? Maybe I need help. At the least, maybe I've seriously underestimated human fallibility. Imagine that, despite none of the tests being successful, you wish to be scrupulously open-minded. So you don't outright reject the notion that there's a fire-breathing dragon in my garage. You merely put it on hold. Present evidence is strongly against it, but if a new body of data emerge you're prepared to examine it and see if it convinces you. Surely it's unfair of me to be offended at not being believed; or to criticize you for being stodgy and unimaginative-- merely because you rendered the Scottish verdict of "not proved." Imagine that things had gone otherwise. The dragon is invisible, all right, but footprints are being made in the flour as you watch. Your infrared detector reads off-scale. The spray paint reveals a jagged crest bobbing in the air before you. No matter how skeptical you might have been about the existence of dragons--to say nothing about invisible ones--you must now acknowledge that there's something here, and that in a preliminary way it's consistent with an invisible, fire-breathing dragon. Now another scenario: Suppose it's not just me. Suppose that several people of your acquaintance, including people who you're pretty sure don't know each other, all tell you that they have dragons in their garages--but in every case the evidence is maddeningly elusive. All of us admit we're disturbed at being gripped by so odd a conviction so ill-supported by the physical evidence. None of us is a lunatic. We speculate about what it would mean if invisible dragons were really hiding out in garages all over the world, with us humans just catching on. I'd rather it not be true, I tell you. But maybe all those ancient European and Chinese myths about dragons weren't myths at all. Gratifyingly, some dragon-size footprints in the flour are now reported. But they're never made when a skeptic is looking. An alternative explanation presents itself. On close examination it seems clear that the footprints could have been faked. Another dragon enthusiast shows up with a burnt finger and attributes it to a rare physical manifestation of the dragon's fiery breath. But again, other possibilities exist. We understand that there are other ways to burn fingers besides the breath of invisible dragons. Such "evidence"--no matter how important the dragon advocates consider it--is far from compelling. Once again, the only sensible approach is tentatively to reject the dragon hypothesis, to be open to future physical data, and to wonder what the cause might be that so many apparently sane and sober people share the same strange delusion. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mico a répondu le Thu 2 Aug, 2007 @ 1:03am |
 Coolness: 150450 | Atheism is for the gays. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nemorave a répondu le Thu 2 Aug, 2007 @ 10:40am |
 Coolness: 89025 | Originally Posted By MICO
Atheism is for the gays. That's me that'S me !!!!!! :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» CravinYourMom a répondu le Fri 3 Aug, 2007 @ 2:48pm |
 Coolness: 39185 | fucking cook those kids and eat em for breakfast |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WassUpOnEarth a répondu le Sat 4 Aug, 2007 @ 2:32pm |
 Coolness: 47860 | Pauvres petites brebis égarées! Vous ne savez donc pas que la rédemption arrive bientôt? Dieu a mis la Terre pour nous alors fous serions nous de ne pas en abuser! Coupez les arbres, faites la guerre, brûlez du pétrole avant qu'il ne soit trop tard! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead a répondu le Sat 4 Aug, 2007 @ 4:03pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DCRn a répondu le Tue 7 Aug, 2007 @ 12:26pm |
 Coolness: 158225 | Without religion, I wouldn't have this kind of entertainment:
I used to watch Pat Robertson all the time while in the states. He's hilariously evil. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly a répondu le Tue 7 Aug, 2007 @ 12:30pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Cano a répondu le Tue 7 Aug, 2007 @ 5:58pm |
 Coolness: 44650 | haha, the farting preacher, a classic. Low-brow, but still funny. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn a répondu le Tue 7 Aug, 2007 @ 7:07pm |
 Coolness: 178635 | woah, this thread talked about Hitler in page 5 and it's not dead yet! Amazing! ^__^
I'm not sure if humans need to believe in gods, but I think they need to feel like being part of something greater, being accepted, etc... Maybe that's what people call "feelings of spirituality". Maybe being part of a religion, for some people, makes them feel that way. Me, I find that feeling in nature. Walking through the woods make me feel at peace. (but I'm not gonna start a hiking cult) I never found that feeling in a church, but maybe others do. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini a répondu le Tue 7 Aug, 2007 @ 11:12pm |
 Coolness: 145190 | i've said it before and i'll say it again, believing in shit is for tools.
the more things you believe in the more you imprison yourself cast out the deamons of religion, ideology, politics, and morality so that you might walk in peace. |
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