Open Disc.: Co Op Artists/rave Venue
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Aikido2 a répondu le Fri 16 Dec, 2005 @ 12:39pm |
 Coolness: 59800 | Nothing gonna happen in 2012...I was joking! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Le_D a répondu le Fri 16 Dec, 2005 @ 1:14pm |
 Coolness: 144870 | Reminds me a little bit too much of the chill. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» earthyspirit a répondu le Fri 16 Dec, 2005 @ 4:00pm |
 Coolness: 229650 | only because youre not seeing the bigger picture. There's nothing wrong with pipe dreams.. gotta start somewhere.. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore a répondu le Fri 16 Dec, 2005 @ 4:02pm |
 Coolness: 471780 | aww shit  |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Atrix a répondu le Fri 16 Dec, 2005 @ 4:19pm |
 Coolness: 55265 | I think you've got a decent idea, and it really sounds like your heart is in the right place, but there are details you are missing that will drag your good intentions through the mud. Quebec is not the right place to do this because they've legislated the potential out of such concepts. In fact, I think the time for such initiatives has gone the way of natural communes and speak-easys. 2K5 is not about the PLUR, although I believe this is probably the time we need it the most. And when a music culture is so heavily dependant on narcotics, your tenants will have short attention spans, low incomes, and I think the community would ultimately end up full of broke squatters, possibly on meth.
What our generation is failing to see is that these concepts were all previously concieved by the hippies (which they stole from the beatniks, who stole from etc...). Well, those commune-living, music-making, freedom-loving hippies have grown up to become the shittiest, most hypocritical generation ever shat onto the planet (Boomers) and theyu've systematically eliminated every possible enjoyable experience they tried while growing up to protect us from making the same mistakes they made and they know better, blah blah blah. If you try to set up this great idea, I promise the boomer-run government will make it impossible to actualize, and you'll be stuck with having your name on a very expensive and non-profit lease. Caveat emptor. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» BA_Baracus a répondu le Fri 16 Dec, 2005 @ 4:29pm |
 Coolness: 121010 | to be discussed at jules vernes tonitez, mike u know about it? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA a répondu le Fri 16 Dec, 2005 @ 6:16pm |
 Coolness: 166550 | jules vernes? is that a place or a person? where/who is this? :p |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Atrix a répondu le Fri 16 Dec, 2005 @ 8:38pm |
| Coolness: 55265 | I'm going to try to make it out from under the snow!!! Vodka has been sent for...reinforcments are on the way! |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn a répondu le Sat 17 Dec, 2005 @ 9:42am |
 Coolness: 178620 | cool :D
Well tell us more about it oki? Might be fun :) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Gone a répondu le Tue 20 Dec, 2005 @ 4:40pm |
| Coolness: 63135 | This project isn't destined to failure, and there are many similar projects that exist.
You have the infoshops from the anarchist/punk movement, which is probably closest analogue you can find to what you're talking about. These usually implode after a few years, not because of the government, but because the punk scene isn't exactly... big on responsibility. There are dozens of infoshops across north america, and scores more in Europe. We got le Shop, formerly L'X in Montreal. A similar concept was Montreal's "Electric Tractor", now replaced with "Friendship Cove". These aren't exactly co-ops, but multi-purpose environments used by artists and bands from the indie scene. I don't know much about them, I just know it's a similar (though more closed) concept to what Earthly Spirit wants to launch. I belong to a dance studio that operates along co-operative lines. It's a private business, but it doesn't operate like one, and it is fairly successful (and a pillar of the music scene it belongs to). I know, from personal experience, these things can work. But you have to play your cards right. Start small. Find a location that's of a couple thousand sq. ft that rents out for a buck a foot or less. Every week, hold rent parties. If only a hundred people show up a week, that's still $2000 at the end of the month - a huge chunk of the rent, if not the whole of it (including business taxes). Might not get a hundred people a week at first, but you definitely could if the venue didn't suck. During the week, provide other services to help pay the rent. DJ Classes, Dance classes, Art classes, whatever. That'll help pay the utility bills. You can create a profit sharing plan, so that contributors get more out of it than just being part of an art community. Chances are, the finances will be horrible at first, so you'll need some financial backers. As for business plans and all that? Hell, you honestly think that if we pooled our resources together we wouldn't be able to find some talented business people to work with? I already know a few who'd be willing to work on the project if I sold them on it. I'm sure the same goes for other people on the board. If you go for a big venue with several rooms and the capacity to hold people, you'll need more money and a tighter game plan. It can be done though. I've seen it happen on a smaller scale. This isn't impossible ;) |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» flo a répondu le Tue 20 Dec, 2005 @ 4:56pm |
 Coolness: 146300 | exactly.
for the spirit of this project, i suggest to check Le Frigo Vert, which is a non-profit organic&natural health food store (on mackay near guy corner, a few steps from concordia university&metro). it's run by concordia students. that's about the kind of atmosphere/spirit/way of life i would expect to work best for the project we're talking about here. i do believe in it. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» PitaGore a répondu le Tue 20 Dec, 2005 @ 5:26pm |
| Coolness: 471780 | good luck |
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