The End Of Free Speech In Quebec?
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Omni replied on Wed May 23, 2012 @ 7:42pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Wed May 23, 2012 @ 7:46pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Wed May 23, 2012 @ 9:26pm |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Thu May 24, 2012 @ 12:35am |
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Download it, spread it around. That's the video of the cops caught red-handed breaking into a store last night. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Thu May 24, 2012 @ 1:39am |
 Coolness: 108785 | mon point était que la plupart des pages sont PAS comme sur [ rave.ca ] comme on doit avoir un compte pour regarder la page. je faisais aucunement allusion aux commentaires. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Omni replied on Thu May 24, 2012 @ 8:02am |
| Coolness: 87555 | Originally Posted By DYNV
mon point était que la plupart des pages sont PAS comme sur [ rave.ca ] comme on doit avoir un compte pour regarder la page. je faisais aucunement allusion aux commentaires. Ah ok je vois. En fait ceci dépend de la personne qui fait le post. Mais j'ai mis cette note publique car je considérais que c'est d'intérêt public, :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Sat Jun 2, 2012 @ 9:16pm |
 Coolness: 166555 | la partie à propos d'avoir des rassemblements illegaux si t'es plus que 50 et que t'as pas prévenu la police... ça touche directement les raves, non? surtout les free parties à l'extérieur dans Montreal... les organisateurs risquent la même grosse amende que les organisateurs de manif, si on se fie au texte de la loi ? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 10:28am |
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la partie à propos d'avoir des rassemblements illegaux si t'es plus que 50 et que t'as pas prévenu la police... ça touche directement les raves, non? surtout les free parties à l'extérieur dans Montreal... les organisateurs risquent la même grosse amende que les organisateurs de manif, si on se fie au texte de la loi ? i honestly think that this will e the least of your worries if you organize an illegal party... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 12:54pm |
| Coolness: 106095 | how could a 125 000$ fine be the least of any promoters problems? |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 4:31pm |
| Coolness: 166525 | Originally Posted By AYKIN0XIA
la partie à propos d'avoir des rassemblements illegaux si t'es plus que 50 et que t'as pas prévenu la police... ça touche directement les raves, non? surtout les free parties à l'extérieur dans Montreal... les organisateurs risquent la même grosse amende que les organisateurs de manif, si on se fie au texte de la loi ? Honestly, I was wondering the same thing. Yes, Basdini, historically raves being 'illegal' have had to deal with many other issues ... and at the moment, the cops are too busy to take notice of us. BUT, my fear is that when the protests taper off, what if that law stays in place? Much like the abuse of the Patriot Act in the States, will they use that law as yet another excuse to bust up raves? An now even profit form it? 'Cause they can even now FINE people for raving, technically, though not legitimately - since a rave is not a protest, by standards of the law. But fuck, that ain't gonna stop the police from doing what they want ... It might not be a big deal yet, but it is worrisome. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 10:48pm |
| Coolness: 685570 | and let's not forget the new law that you have to pay if you're going to have recorded music play at a public event, and that this law is retroactive back to 2008, and that if people are dancing at the event the fee is doubled.
So, promoters, be on the lookout; every single event you've thrown going back to 2008 could get you a $30 "fine" since you were playing recorded music that people were dancing to. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 10:57pm |
| Coolness: 166525 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
and let's not forget the new law that you have to pay if you're going to have recorded music play at a public event, and that this law is retroactive back to 2008, and that if people are dancing at the event the fee is doubled. So, promoters, be on the lookout; every single event you've thrown going back to 2008 could get you a $30 "fine" since you were playing recorded music that people were dancing to. wait ... WHAT!? what's the law called? :how do kill DJing in one fell swoop ... ? fuck. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 11:13pm |
| Coolness: 108785 | I can just see all major CEOs walking in line arms locked with a grin with Charest in the middle singing, in English mind you, "For a prospering Quebec, vote Liberal.". La loi 101, c'est juste pour fermer la yeule aux séparatistes, mais juste sur papier. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MelooDie replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 11:24pm |
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wait ... WHAT!? what's the law called? :how do kill DJing in one fell swoop ... ? fuck. [ www.ctv.ca ] check the link. totally crazy...... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sun Jun 3, 2012 @ 11:25pm |
| Coolness: 685570 | Originally Posted By NATHAN
wait ... WHAT!? what's the law called? :how do kill DJing in one fell swoop ... ? fuck. [ www.ctv.ca ] "The fees -- which also apply to events and venues such as parades, festivals, and karaoke bars -- are being charged in an effort to protect and compensate performers and record labels for their work. The fees range in price depending on the size of the event and how the music will be used. At events with fewer than one hundred people, the fees start at $9.25 per day. For couples planning a wedding, a reception of 400 guests will cost them $27.76. If dancing is involved, that fee doubles to $55.52." ----- "The new fees are retro-active to 2008, meaning people may receive a bill for an event they've thrown in the past. There will also be inspectors who will work to ensure the new rules are being followed." ----- So, yes, promoters be on the lookout, you're looking at a retroactive $55 "fee" for every single event you've thrown from 2008 on. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nuclear replied on Mon Jun 4, 2012 @ 12:03am |
 Coolness: 2603965 | A lot of DJs actually buy CD's from labels who sell their CDs/Music for people to play at events so maybe this will work for people who play commercial music but it won't work for a lot of the rave or underground parties since the music which is played at most of these are from the sale of music which is specifically for playing in front of people. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Jun 4, 2012 @ 2:56pm |
| Coolness: 166525 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
[ www.ctv.ca ] "The fees -- which also apply to events and venues such as parades, festivals, and karaoke bars -- are being charged in an effort to protect and compensate performers and record labels for their work. The fees range in price depending on the size of the event and how the music will be used. At events with fewer than one hundred people, the fees start at $9.25 per day. For couples planning a wedding, a reception of 400 guests will cost them $27.76. If dancing is involved, that fee doubles to $55.52." ----- "The new fees are retro-active to 2008, meaning people may receive a bill for an event they've thrown in the past. There will also be inspectors who will work to ensure the new rules are being followed." ----- So, yes, promoters be on the lookout, you're looking at a retroactive $55 "fee" for every single event you've thrown from 2008 on. aaaahhh!! that doesn't even make any sense, ESPECIALLY if the DJ already payed for their music .. do we have to bring receipts now, to prove we bought our CDs/records/digital copies ?? Or, does that not even matter, it's like an additional fee to have the right to play music in public? Just another scare tactic by the Big Cheese record co. trying to make up for a few lost sales from 'net sharing ... Originally Posted By nuclear
A lot of DJs actually buy CD's from labels who sell their CDs/Music for people to play at events so maybe this will work for people who play commercial music but it won't work for a lot of the rave or underground parties since the music which is played at most of these are from the sale of music which is specifically for playing in front of people. true ... what indie techno label is gonna send reps to every rave, and ask the DJ if they bought the record or stole the mp3 ? None. They don't have 30 lawyers and a 100 reps - and I don't think they would want 'em. SO, this is an awesome law after all, 'cause if you want to avoid the fees, then just don't play any music from any of the 3 major labels ... your plan is gonna backfire assholes! xD |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Jun 4, 2012 @ 6:43pm |
| Coolness: 106095 | Buying music licence's you to listen to it in private. Public performance is prohibited by law. nothing new... Its what that little © thingy means. |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Mon Jun 4, 2012 @ 7:26pm |
| Coolness: 166525 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
Buying music licence's you to listen to it in private. Public performance is prohibited by law. nothing new... Its what that little © thingy means. of course, but that whole thing needs to be changed, given the massive industry of bars/clubs. (there's gotta be reasonable reason why the laws were never enforced in the first place) the concept works for something like movies, so that some dude doesn't charge ppl 5$ a pop to see a movie in his backyard that he bought for 10$ on dvd or whatever, i get that ... but music? gimme a break. DJ culture has made such rules obsolete. Furthermore, poeple don't go to a club 'cause a DJ advertises that he'll be playing a particular song, they go for the style they like in general, the acutal songs by any given artist chosen to be played are incidental. If these rules start being implemented, maybe Djs will just make all their own fucking music and the whole system of having your popular song played in a club will get thrown out the window, and then you have less popularity, less promo, and still won't get the fee moneys .. heh. And again, these are rules set by the biggest companies, solely for added profit, and will hardly benefit the artists, and doesn't even implicate indie labels or any of the real starving-artists. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Mon Jun 4, 2012 @ 8:41pm |
| Coolness: 106095 | Venues have always been supposed to pay a lump sum for the music they play. If they actually do, I don't know. The difficult thing with copywrite laws are having them enforced. But at CbC-Radio-Can, every song that plays gets declared and the owner of the copyright gets money.
If you wanna try to make a living playing other peoples music, you have to pay more than the common consumer. Or use music that is copywrite free. |
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