Protest Against Police Brutality
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 1:13pm |
 Coolness: 129840 | Yeah and you wonder why you got arrested O_o
Host, its people like you that give a black eye to these kind of marches, little rich kids running around making crappy graffiti everywhere If I were there I would have told the cops to arrest you as well. For once they did the right thing :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 1:18pm |
 Coolness: 282575 | Rich kid 
You're fuckin pathetic Bliss. Like, one of the most pathetic people I've ever met in my life. From the day I heard you shit and piss your bed I knew you had fucking prolems man Now, you sit around all day long, not making money, not getting pussy, not making mixes, not promoting yourself, just so you can get a chance to snip at me one last time. You make trolls cringe bro. It's sad. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 1:20pm |
 Coolness: 106235 | Originally Posted By MASA
<3 For the record, these indeed "pseudo-anarchists", more akin to nihilists, give actual anarchists a bad name. Actualy, anarchists already have a pretty bad name. ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 1:28pm |
 Coolness: 158890 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
Actualy, anarchists already have a pretty bad name. ;) Because young british punks took some Sex Pistols lyrics too seriously? Sigh. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 1:35pm |
| Coolness: 106235 | Anarchists had a bad name way before the Sex Pistols... that's probably why they latched on to the concept in the first place.
The Sex Pistols where about as proficient in philosophy as they where in music. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 1:54pm |
| Coolness: 129840 | Originally Posted By HOST.WUN
Im fucking pathetic Bliss. Like, one of the most pathetic people you'll ever met in your life. From the day you heard I shit and piss my bed you knew I had fucking prolems man Now, I sit around all day long, not making money, not getting pussy, not making mixes, not promoting myself, just so I can get a chance to snip at you one last time. I make trolls cringe bro. It's sad.
Host, your posts will never cease to amuse me |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 2:01pm |
| Coolness: 158890 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
Anarchists had a bad name way before the Sex Pistols... that's probably why they latched on to the concept in the first place. The Sex Pistols where about as proficient in philosophy as they where in music. Well I don't debate music tastes, though I'd love to continue this convo... Unfortunately, I think people would much rather fling boring insults at one another |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 2:10pm |
| Coolness: 106235 | Love is in the air... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» greatjob replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 2:32pm |
| Coolness: 282575 | Originally Posted By BLISSS
Host, your posts will never cease to amuse me
No one reads your replies jagoff. Go fuck yourself. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 4:31pm |
 Coolness: 159240 | Maybe we should take our quarrels to the streets, do a huge manifestation, break a few windows and get beaten by the cops. :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Blisss replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 5:15pm |
| Coolness: 129840 | The only person I see quarelling is Host, but as usual I could be wrong ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 7:54pm |
 Coolness: 166665 | this is all the typical result of hooligans causing problems that make people say 'ah those hoodlums always making trouble!' and it distracts from the real issue ...
cops are beating and killing people around the world! it's a job that gives you power, and with it comes responsibility that most humans are not capable of dealing with. OMG stupid poser-anarchists graffing a wall and breaking a window -- carrying marbles around with them! holy shit it's the end of the world! meanwhile: over 40 cases of police brutalty proven in north america alone ... nevermind here n MTL where a boy was shot, what, 2 years ago now? seriously, i agree that the protesters are often misguided and the groups have some bad-apples in 'em and all that, but fuck! that doesn't mean the cops are either right or justified nor does it mean that protests & marches are wrong or entirely ineffective -_- ... at least some people are doing something about what they see as a major problem in our society. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Thu Mar 17, 2011 @ 9:23pm |
 Coolness: 509680 | has there really only been 40 cases of police brutality proven in ten years? seems like it's really not a problem at all.
But think about it, if you are near a cop and you're getting beat up by them, chances are you did 'something' to deserve it. I've actually been roughed up by cops, for getting into the metro without paying... i thought it was a bit of an over reaction, but... I wasn't innocent... It's not that hard to not be in the wrong place at the wrong time... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» v.2-1 replied on Fri Mar 18, 2011 @ 8:45pm |
| Coolness: 159240 | Nathan, I'm usually not one to disagree with you ( I can't recall if I ever have. Heh. ) but for your last post, allow me to dissent. :)
Originally Posted By ZOMBIENATHAN
cops are beating and killing people around the world! it's a job that gives you power, and with it comes responsibility that most humans are not capable of dealing with. Why is there no 4000 people protests against doctors who make mistakes ? How many times have I seen or heard of the wrong prognosis given to a patient because the doctor's too full of himself to ask for a second opinion when in doubt ? It's a job that gives you a God complex yet nobody takes it to the streets when full castrations have been done instead of the appointed tonsil removal. What makes police brutality so special a case to warrant such a public display each and every year and attract shit disturbers yearly ? Originally Posted By ZOMBIENATHAN
over 40 cases of police brutalty proven in north america alone ... nevermind here n MTL where a boy was shot, what, 2 years ago now? You're probably referring to Villanueva. Yet, as much as I agree that ALL these 40 cases should not occur on a continent claiming to be the epitome of civilization, I feel we're pretty damn blessed compared to south american police forces, often paid by drug cartels to turn a blind eye, do the cartel's bidding, beat women and children, mame, extort and sometimes kidnap innocent people. Our north-american "police brutality" done by overly testosteroned and steroid-filled numbskulls seems pretty tame in comparison. Originally Posted By ZOMBIENATHAN
that doesn't mean the cops are either right or justified nor does it mean that protests & marches are wrong or entirely ineffective -_- Now, I'm not saying we don't have the right to express our discontent, hell if anything we should express it even more sometimes, but can't we find a better outlet than protest rallies for that ? Has a yearly rally for police brutality actually changed anything so far ? I'm seeing a lot of rallies today for the rise of scholarity costs and those have NEVER stopped the government from continuing to raise them. Heck, if anything, I've never seen the government go back on a decision based on rallies ( I'm talking about rallies here btw, NOT strikes ). A few decades ago, means of being heard were scarce. You usually had to do something extraordinary like get 10 000 people walk the streets to warrant having the TV cameras turned to you to get the message across. Today - unless you live in a poor country - we live in an online social networking based world. Blogs, websites, Facebook , Twitter and the likes gets the point across to way more people, faster and easier internationally than just blocking a few streets, disrupting traffic and getting 30 seconds of airtime on one network's newscast that no one will remember or care about when Desperate Housewives or How I Met Your Mother kicks in right afterwards. It's not 1974 and I just don't see the point anymore. You want to raise awareness ? Create a blog, a website, a Facebook page and tweet about it, post on Digg and such. Tell a few friends to tell a few friends and next thing you know, 15 873 people worldwide will "Like" your Facebook page and comment on concrete actions to take. No disruption, no anarchists, no breakage and no chance of starting a riot and getting your head bashed in. I thought any pacifists would prefer the online method instead of public exposure and multiplying your chance to get a few "bad apples" in the crowd to ruin it for everyone...each... and every goddam year. Hopefully someone had the courage to read all this. :) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Fri Mar 18, 2011 @ 11:45pm |
 Coolness: 108925 | Originally Posted By V.2-1
Create a blog, a website, a Facebook page and tweet about it, post on Digg and such. Tell a few friends to tell a few friends and next thing you know, 15 873 people worldwide will "Like" your Facebook page and comment on concrete actions to take. hahahahahhahahahaahahhaahaahahahahhahaha |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sat Mar 19, 2011 @ 12:41am |
| Coolness: 166665 | like my oldest/punkest friend just told me:
"these days punks just go to protests 'cause they don't know what else to do" He suggests that these kids, rather than waste time and energy throwing pebbles at windows, actually join forces with others and form some sort of citizens committee, watchdog type shit, like they do in alot of other North American cities, that would be responsible for the police - they can even 'make arrests' and make the cops responsible. Apparently such a committee exists in New York City, where in 30 years, 66 cops were arrested through this committee -- about 60% of them for murder. It's said that the police are nicer and better behaved in the last 10-15 years due to this. IMO, the Facebook fad of protesting through the 'net with "likes" and attendance lists, is total ineffective garbage bullshit. Clicking your mouse once is too easy, too lazy, and all you end up with is a bunch of people that do or do not agree with you. Wow, who cares, nothing is actually being done through this type of online "protest". I fucking hate getting invites for events like "impeach president so-and-so" or "everyone wear purple to fight terrorism day" or whatever the fuck. It's weak, and not one body of Government anywhere is gonna change their policies 'cause of it. It's great for awareness, shitty for action. Alot of us are very sick of seeing the same shit every year, from both sides, but what I'm trying to say is that disapproving of protests is a very dangerous path to go down. We cannot, as a society living under the democratic flag, afford to have protests erased from our vocabulary, dismissed or forgotten. It's our fucking right, 'cause those assholes upstairs don't listen to shit unless it hits 'em in the nuts - and even then they do what they want! So, on the other hand, I agree that protesting is getting old, getting useless, and new ways of changing things should be considered, like through the 'net - but i mean hacking not tweeting; organizing, not editorializing. The whole world is swirling 'round the giant porcelain bowl, so I give two shits anymore if a bunch of people wanna voluntarily go out and 'cause some trouble if it ain't gonna affect me either way - 'cause if people piss off the police or say nothing at all, the result is the same: nothing changes. @ AlienZed: sorry Mike, but 40 cases is at least 39 too many :/ ... and I believe that any negative thing that happens more than once, is a problem. Things might not be as bad here as they are some other countries, but that doesn't mean it's good. Understand that I don't agree with how they handle things at the Anti-Police-Brutality rallies, but I'm not going to criticize 'em either. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Sat Mar 19, 2011 @ 12:11pm |
| Coolness: 509680 | Cops are the only legal force against violence, it's only natural that they make mistakes and if there are something like a million arrests per year, 40 per ten years is a damn good percentile... maybe I'm misunderstanding your figure tho... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Sat Mar 19, 2011 @ 4:37pm |
| Coolness: 108925 | Originally Posted By ALIENZED
Cops are the only legal force against violence, it's only natural that they make mistakes and if there are something like a million arrests per year, 40 per ten years is a damn good percentile... maybe I'm misunderstanding your figure tho... shooting to kill someone that attack you with a knife is pretty fucking stupid! it's a fucking semi-automatic gun, try a calf first? then a shoulder, then the gut. the liver won't put someone cold too fast but will surely have him on the ground. how many bullets that things can shoot a minute? the only excuse is if you don't give a fuck or are too stupid to think this can't happen to you. but that's the best-case scenario, not the premeditated ones that does happen much much too often for the level of civilization we're at. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Screwhead replied on Sat Mar 19, 2011 @ 4:59pm |
 Coolness: 685710 | Originally Posted By DYNV
shooting to kill someone that attack you with a knife is pretty fucking stupid! it's a fucking semi-automatic gun, try a calf first? then a shoulder, then the gut. the liver won't put someone cold too fast but will surely have him on the ground. how many bullets that things can shoot a minute? the only excuse is if you don't give a fuck or are too stupid to think this can't happen to you. That's all fine and dandy, but you're someone that's obviously never shot a gun, let alone at a moving target. How small/thin is a calf/leg/arm? How small of an area do you have to hit to hit a shoulder? And that's just if they're standing still, a moving target is a LOT harder to hit, even with all the training in the world. For a person to have the time to take out their gun and have a chance to shoot someone running at them from more than 21 feet. As soon as a person is within the 21' range of a person with a gun, they have ZERO chance to unholster, take off the safety, aim and shoot. And hitting a small, moving target is nearly impossible. Using guns in real life is nothing like it's portrayed in movies, not even by a long-shot. Your gut-shot example, that's a lethal shot if the person isn't treated within a few minutes of the shot hitting them, and even if it is, that's a hell of a lot of damage depending on where it hits. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DynV replied on Sat Mar 19, 2011 @ 5:08pm |
| Coolness: 108925 | screwhead I certainly shot before, I had a rifle in my hands while hunting before I was even 10, and my aim is not bad. Although I never used a hand-gun, I never shot a human.
In my example, I assumed the cops knew about the threat when they got the call. I understand if they have a legitimate reason to be scared that they panic. |
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