Children At Festivals......
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Sun Mar 6, 2011 @ 6:24pm |
 Coolness: 226245 | I tend to agree with databoy on this one tough.
I a one night event, it's okay to not be able to talk much because of the ambient noise, but on a long run event, I think volume down a little makes room for more convo. I mean, if you're gonna be there for 4 days +, you kinda NEED to communicate:) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Olivia replied on Sun Mar 6, 2011 @ 7:09pm |
 Coolness: 66975 | kids absorb and mimic everything around them... especially people
so bringing them somewhere to where they can even only see a few people really fucked up still effects them.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sun Mar 6, 2011 @ 7:18pm |
 Coolness: 166515 | I don't think that worrying about bringing children being in odd environments is being conservative, more like responsible.
The question was about festivals in general, not if it's OK to bring kids to Open Mind. So, fine, even though I wouldn't, it seems safe to drag your kids to ONE hippy jam fest .. whatever, that doesn't mean it's a good idea for any festival. When i see a kid at any festival (Punk fest, Industrial fest, etc.), who are under close supervision and there for a brief period of time, I think: "Oh how cute! Kid's gonna grow up to be _ _ _ just like their parents! That's cool - rebel young Padawan, rebel!" ... ... But in general, having a bunch of kids at a fest like that, overnight and all, I still think is unsafe. Hell, kids are unsafe just about anywhere, doesn't mean you can make an exception for anything. Why do you think bars are 18+ ? On the other hand, parties or festivals designed for kids are alright ... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Sun Mar 6, 2011 @ 7:42pm |
 Coolness: 106085 | Originally Posted By ZOMBIENATHAN
The question was about festivals in general, not if it's OK to bring kids to Open Mind. Originally Posted By nads
I recently asked my sister if I could take my nephews to open mind with me this year (they are 6 years old) And she was dead set against it. Even after I showed her the website and all the kids activities and assured her that there would be many other children there. Not only did she say no but also asked me how could I even think of doing that. I personally think they would have a blast, but they are not my children so it`s not my choice. But I wondering what other people think about the idea of bringing children to festivals like open mind? Just so we are clear about the original question... ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Nathan replied on Sun Mar 6, 2011 @ 7:45pm |
| Coolness: 166515 | Originally Posted By DATABOY
Just so we are clear about the original question... Originally Posted By nads
... what other people think about the idea of bringing children to festivals like open mind? i guess it was the "like" that got me ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» databoy replied on Sun Mar 6, 2011 @ 7:49pm |
| Coolness: 106085 | I've never been to a party like Open Mind, really, it was a pretty unique experience. There where quite a few peps from Toronto and they had a beautiful luminous vibe to them. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Mon Mar 7, 2011 @ 12:56am |
 Coolness: 509530 | sounds like a whole different kind of jam |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Zentrix replied on Mon Mar 7, 2011 @ 1:40am |
 Coolness: 30265 | Originally Posted By ALIENZED
Can you really not see a single problem with having kids there? Was the music really always below 100dba? Yes. The volume was very low during the event, with levels reaching "rock out" levels only during the wee wee hours of the morning, (I'm talking 3am-7am) and even then I doubt it was above 100dba. Databoy could give you precise data because he was working the sound. Originally Posted By ALIENZED
Did you not see a single person tripping out? Do you really think it's healthy for a child to be exposed to that? I've seen more fucked up people on a saturday afternoon in downtown Montreal. If anything, if that is such a concern you'd be better off with your kids in the environment of Open Mind then in a public space within the ville de montreal! I did see people who were high... and obviously it is impossible for me to see every single person, but overall the people who were intoxicated were very much in control of themselves. There were a few people who were expecially exuberant, but I honestly couldn't tell you if their moods were assisted or if they were just genuinely happy people. Put it this way...there were no tweaked out ravers shuffling around like malnourished zombies. There may have been a few earthtone hippies who were sitting blissed out in front of gongs or making wierd yoga poses. Update » Zentrix wrote on Mon Mar 7, 2011 @ 1:49am Ah sorry, I missed part of the convo there...looks like I came in a bit late.
Anyways...this is a topic that really interests me...I'm gonna track down an article I read earlier this year and come back with it. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AlienZeD replied on Mon Mar 7, 2011 @ 2:22am |
| Coolness: 509530 | I wouldn't bring my young kid downtown either... and with that in mind you may be right that open mind is 'safer' in some senses...
just answer me this, do they play loud full on psytrance? if so, regardless of what the organizers intend or do, they will attract some of the sort of people it might be questionable to have your kid around... no? |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Bad_Chemistry replied on Mon Mar 7, 2011 @ 3:52am |
 Coolness: 73055 | Bah I don't know... the way I see it, let people raise their kids the way they want. If you believe that bringing your kid to a festival will do good for him you are entitled to believe that and bring your kid. Maybe that kid would become a crazy dj; start mixing and producing at 8 years old; all jaded and producing minimal by 13.
It becomes a problem I think if the parents decide to indulge and party and not look after the kid. But to address your statement nads... I would never in 8934721893721 years let anybody else take my kid to a festival. Imagine something happens to your kid... WOW |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Mon Mar 7, 2011 @ 8:54am |
 Coolness: 166545 | Originally Posted By ALIENZED
if so, regardless of what the organizers intend or do, they will attract some of the sort of people it might be questionable to have your kid around... no? au festival juste pour rire aussi. a la st-jean-baptiste ou la fete du canada de quartier aussi. yet there are still activities for kids, and tons of them. truth is no matter where you go there will always be questionnable people... on vit pas dans une boule de ouate! |
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| Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» sabinonstop replied on Mon Mar 7, 2011 @ 2:17pm |
 Coolness: 92400 | As most of u know i have a daughter that i have brought to numerous
festivals but less recently because she is gettimg older and is more observant of what is happening around her and when i bring her and i'm alone i don't have fun because i'll never leave her in a tent unguarded except if i exchange nanny duties wiz other parents! A lot of kids with hippy parents actually become yuppies cause thy r fed up of tofu,beards and patchoulie! I think it's great for children to travel and go festivals and meet different mentalities as they are plagued with a conventional and consumer typed education at school and the whole stupidity that internet social netwerks encouraging superficiality! my daughters aunt brought her step-daughters to a festival and they saw naked hippies on da beach they got traumatised and told there mother! these girls though were not used 2 anything like that cause there mother is a surburbian anxiety case! so all you kids just take your neices and nephews to see twilight at the cinema its politicaly correct! lol |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» perception replied on Mon Mar 7, 2011 @ 9:50pm |
 Coolness: 65885 | "Typically you have between 2 minutes and 1 hour safe exposure time in a club" 100-120 dBA
SEE GRAPH [ www.image-line.com ] "The current study found that 35% of attendees were 30 years of age or older, all having commenced clubbing in their late teens or early 20s. The eldest individual was 42 years and had been clubbing for 25 years. At the average exposure per week of 12.2 Pa 2 h, this implies that this individual has already accumulated a minimum life-time exposure equivalent to 71.4 aye, almost twice the exposure that could be expected from work alone. Further studies at NAL are currently under way to examine attendance rate over time (age)." [ www.noiseandhealth.org ] and from the Sound Engineer handbook 105 = 1 hour 110 = 30mins 115 = < 25mins and 84 dBA is recommended to prevent permanent damage --- In general and in agreement of most of what has been said, if you were to chose a festival OpenMind would be it. Other than that, I lean towards no kids when adults are at play. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MAtRiCks replied on Tue Mar 8, 2011 @ 9:06am |
 Coolness: 79425 | This thread reminds me of an interesting anecdote from Eclipse 2008.
I was dancing in the main area around the dance floor with a good friend of mine around 11pm on Saturday night, both high as kites on mushrooms and thoroughly enjoying our night through the looking glass. Suddenly, we stumbled upon an unattended cradle, about 100 feet from the dance floor. We approached carefully, curious but weary of this unexpected discovery. In the cradle was a sleeping baby, seemingly undisturbed by the chaos around. In a peak of our psychedelic high, we suddenly recognized this baby as our new children, gave him a name and started talking to him. It took a few minutes for our peak to pass, as we quickly realized how fucked up this really was... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» the_pink_popo replied on Tue Mar 8, 2011 @ 11:33am |
 Coolness: 100505 | ^^ awesome! .... what was hes name? +_+ |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» AYkiN0XiA replied on Tue Mar 8, 2011 @ 12:00pm |
| Coolness: 166545 | agreed, that's pretty fucked up... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» El_Presidente replied on Tue Mar 8, 2011 @ 12:30pm |
 Coolness: 299295 | The issue is not if you should bring your kid to a festival or not. It's more if you should let it out of it's cage or not. I say leave him a bucket of KFC and put a blanket on top of it's cage and go have fun! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Tue Mar 8, 2011 @ 12:34pm |
| Coolness: 226245 | Originally Posted By EL_PRESIDENTE
The issue is not if you should bring your kid to a festival or not. It's more if you should let it out of it's cage or not. I say leave him a bucket of KFC and put a blanket on top of it's cage and go have fun! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» the_pink_popo replied on Tue Mar 8, 2011 @ 12:40pm |
| Coolness: 100505 | oh noz... ive forgoten about him...god.. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Tue Mar 8, 2011 @ 12:54pm |
| Coolness: 226245 | Originally Posted By THE_PINK_POPO
oh noz... ive forgoten about him...god.. :) Hochelag reprezent! |
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