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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 6:46pm
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Originally Posted By WASSUPONEARTH

Originally Posted By Anarkoid
Well, I don't believe in god because there is absolutely no proof or reason to believe in it...same thing about the tooth fairy and Santa Claus

climate changes however are demonstrable and will affect the lives of every living organism on this planet!

Yeah but if Santa Claus doesn't exist, climate changes can't either.


Exacatacatactly.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» MolocH replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 6:46pm
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Mah gawd. This thred is like Jordan had a word diahrea, and a n Idea constipation.
When you have nothing to say, say it to yourself.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WassUpOnEarth replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 6:54pm
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Didn't anybody understand my sarcasm? I was answering to this post:
Originally Posted By FHSGJFHUVKL

i don't believe in god because i don't believe in the tooth fairy.
read 'the god delusion' by richard dawkins.
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Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 7:14pm
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as if i'm actually reading this thread.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WassUpOnEarth replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 7:48pm
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what are you doing here then?
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Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 7:53pm
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Picturing you naked with a ping pong ball in your mouth and a bloody belly button. Have my abortion.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WassUpOnEarth replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 8:04pm
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I'm glad you have an abortion!
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Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» DrGonzo replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 8:20pm
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I hate how boring ravewave has become.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WassUpOnEarth replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 8:46pm
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Poor little girl.
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Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 8:51pm
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Well considering I'm on WassUpOnEarth's ignore list for posting something jokingly while drunk let me just say YOU'RE A TOTAL CUNT. And your sense of humour is malfunctional.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WassUpOnEarth replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 9:25pm
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lol. Calm yourself dude, why are you overreacting? You're drunk again?
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Mezion replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 9:45pm
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Originally Posted By DRGONZO

I hate how boring ravewave has become.


well start some thread, you seem to have a lot of imagination (or loose time)
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Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 9:50pm
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Awesome you heard that. But it's ok I like total cunts. Who else would I fuck?
Update » JasonBeastly wrote on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 9:50pm
Anally.
Update » JasonBeastly wrote on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 9:51pm
Then in the mouth. See I'm bored, I'd even screw a twinkie.
Update » JasonBeastly wrote on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 9:53pm
Changed my mind, just looked at your profile pics.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» WassUpOnEarth replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 9:55pm
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Why do you call me cunt? And why did you think you was on my iggy?
You seem pretty retarded for a 29 yo dude. That's sad.
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Neutral [0]Toggle ReplyLink» JasonBeastly replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 10:00pm
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Didn't you notice, I called everybody a cunt. It's ok, you don't need to get sand in your vagina there kid.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sat Dec 15, 2007 @ 10:16pm
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Originally Posted By ANARKOID WELL, I DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD BECAUSE THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO PROOF OR REASON TO BELIEVE IN IT...


but there is also no proof that god doesn't exist.

remember not being able to prove a statement true doesn't make it false

atheist hate when you point this out, it shows that their position is not nearly as strong as they would have you believe
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Anarkoid replied on Sun Dec 16, 2007 @ 2:55am
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So if someone tells you that the world is going to end tomorrow, is his position as strong as if someone tells you that statistically the world is NOT going to end tomorrow. Well nothing demonstrate the existence of a god so the burden of proof is in the theist camp...
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» basdini replied on Sun Dec 16, 2007 @ 8:14am
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Originally Posted By ANARKOID SO IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU THAT THE WORLD IS GOING TO END TOMORROW, IS HIS POSITION AS STRONG AS IF SOMEONE TELLS YOU THAT STATISTICALLY THE WORLD IS NOT GOING TO END TOMORROW. WELL NOTHING DEMONSTRATE THE EXISTENCE OF A GOD SO THE BURDEN OF PROOF IS IN THE THEIST CAMP...


no the burden of proof is not on the theist side of the argument any more than it is on the atheist side. Nothing demonstrates that he does not exist either. if the atheist position is so clearly based on reason why is it so difficult for them to prove the statement (ie god does not exist) which is at the core of their doctrine.

in the final analysis, the atheist position is just as much based on faith (or more properly 'anti-faith') in the unprovable. Namely the statement that 'god does not exist, they demonstrat an unwavering commitment to this despite not being able to prove it.

it is interesting to note that the most celebrated proof (despite it's obvious flaws)of the existence of god, that of Rene Descartes, was not well received at the time of it's publication, the religious establishment of the time found it offensive to attempt to prove god's existence...

perhaps this is the real heart of the issue, atheists are desperate to prove that god does not exist, yet can't, where as theists cannot prove that exists, however they don't need to because the whole basis of spirituality in one way or another is faith in that which cannot be proven.
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Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» cvxn replied on Sun Dec 16, 2007 @ 11:07am
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Good [+2]Toggle ReplyLink» Captain.Obvious replied on Sun Dec 16, 2007 @ 12:11pm
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Originally Posted By BASDINI

Originally Posted By Anarkoid Well, I don't believe in god because there is absolutely no proof or reason to believe in it...


but there is also no proof that god doesn't exist.

remember not being able to prove a statement true doesn't make it false

atheist hate when you point this out, it shows that their position is not nearly as strong as they would have you believe


That's because it's an ineffable statement. Credence should not be given to those who make comments that cannot be supported by any evidence whatsoever. The same proof that is given to the existence of god can also be applied to the flying spaghetti monster, god fearing nuts have a way around this, they say "you just have to have faith", which roughly translated means "stop asking questions and just blindly believe in this".
Update » Captain.Obvious wrote on Sun Dec 16, 2007 @ 12:16pm
Taking an agnostic position on the existence of god is the same as being agnostic to whether rocks laugh at you when you're not looking.

example:

I have a magic yogurt, when I eat it, I become invisible. Unfortunately, it only works when no one is looking and I refuse to do it when anyone is conducting experiments testing the validity of said invisibility.

How many people are going to say "you're completely full of shit"? All those people are the equivalent to Atheists whereas those who say "I dunno, that doesn't seem too likely, but since I can't know for sure, I'll remain neutral and say I'm not sure" are agnostics.

saying the burden of proof is on those who doubt is basically opening the door for people to make baseless claims and giving them credence where credence is not warranted.
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