Little Children Save Raves From Trancetard Music!!!!!
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Fri Jul 27, 2007 @ 1:49pm |
 Coolness: 55575 | Originally Posted By MASA
Problem is, that market tends to inflate with big name DJs, quite over what it should be worth ;) I agree - when stuff like that happens, it's up to the markets to normalize. I guess what usually happens is that bigger dollar DJ's will only play the largest parties in your area, the Cream and bal en blanc style events, and underground events have to start developing a new roster of acts they can book from. These new acts are usually more boutique-style guys who are famous in a particular genre but don't have a huge crossover following. Then of course, once you have paid to develop their careers with solid bookings and good publicity, they start to ask for too much money as well, and you have to let them go - it's a vicious cycle, hehe. but there are DJ's who have not fallen into this trap of pricing themselves out of steady work. Lenny Dee is a perfect example. Omar Santana is another. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Masa replied on Fri Jul 27, 2007 @ 1:50pm |
 Coolness: 158845 | Well that's pretty much intrinsic to any kind of 'scene'...
Way of the world, kiddo. Update » Masa wrote on Fri Jul 27, 2007 @ 1:53pm @ RepentTokyo... Well said! Too bad fame tends to blow up the egos of some ;) |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sabinonstop replied on Sat Jul 28, 2007 @ 10:18am |
 Coolness: 92505 | THIS CARTOON SPEAKS TO ME A LOT!IVE ALWAYS FOUND PEOPLE RIDICOULOUS TO DEPEND ON INTERNATIONAL
HYPED DJS TO BRING PEOPLE IT DISCOURAGES LOCAL DJS FROM CONTINUING CAUSE EVEN IF I PLAY A BETTER SET THAN THE SOCALLED SUPERSTAR,I GET ONLY A FRACTION OF HIS PAY(IF I GET PAYED)AND ITS ALWAYS A BIG GAMBLE 4 THE PROMOTER.LETS BE REALISTIC,WE HAVE MAYBE THE BEST DJS ON EARTH HERE IN MTL AND WE HAVE ACCESS TO SO MUCH MUSIC!(IVE BEEN TO EUROPE...ECT )AND WE SHOULD BE FUCKIN PROUD AND HARBOUR THE DJS AND PRODUCERS HERE!IM SO SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THIS (NUL NEST PROPHETE DANS SON PAYS SHIT). SO MANY ARTISTS IN THE COMUNITY HAVE TO EITHER MOVE AND COME BACK TO GET RESPECT(& MONEY)OR GET SIGNED ON A FOREIGN LABEL TO GET RECOGNISED(AKUFEN,VROOM,DEADBEAT,MISSTRESS BARBARA..ECT) IVE SEEN SO MANY DJS GET DISCOURAGED BY NOT GETTING PAID ENOUGH THAT EVEN IF ITS GOOD ONCE IN AWHILE TO IMPORT OTHER FOREIGN VIBES TO MIX IT UP, MOST PEOPLE DONT GIVE A SHIT! I USED TO PLAY AT A ITALIEN LINER BAR! AND THIS MAFIOSO USED TO MAKE ME PLAY THE FUCKIN TIESTOLYMPICS CD ALL THE TIME HE SAID TIESTO IS THE ONLYTRANCE DJ HE LIKES THAT SAYS IT ALL..........PEACE! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Le_D replied on Sat Jul 28, 2007 @ 10:58am |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Sat Jul 28, 2007 @ 11:27am |
 Coolness: 158810 | Originally Posted By SABINONSTOP
THIS CARTOON SPEAKS TO ME A LOT!IVE ALWAYS FOUND PEOPLE RIDICOULOUS TO DEPEND ON INTERNATIONAL HYPED DJS TO BRING PEOPLE IT DISCOURAGES LOCAL DJS FROM CONTINUING CAUSE EVEN IF I PLAY A BETTER SET THAN THE SOCALLED SUPERSTAR,I GET ONLY A FRACTION OF HIS PAY(IF I GET PAYED)AND ITS ALWAYS A BIG GAMBLE 4 THE PROMOTER.LETS BE REALISTIC,WE HAVE MAYBE THE BEST DJS ON EARTH HERE IN MTL AND WE HAVE ACCESS TO SO MUCH MUSIC!(IVE BEEN TO EUROPE...ECT )AND WE SHOULD BE FUCKIN PROUD AND HARBOUR THE DJS AND PRODUCERS HERE!IM SO SICK AND TIRED OF ALL THIS (NUL NEST PROPHETE DANS SON PAYS SHIT). SO MANY ARTISTS IN THE COMUNITY HAVE TO EITHER MOVE AND COME BACK TO GET RESPECT(& MONEY)OR GET SIGNED ON A FOREIGN LABEL TO GET RECOGNISED(AKUFEN,VROOM,DEADBEAT,MISSTRESS BARBARA..ECT) IVE SEEN SO MANY DJS GET DISCOURAGED BY NOT GETTING PAID ENOUGH THAT EVEN IF ITS GOOD ONCE IN AWHILE TO IMPORT OTHER FOREIGN VIBES TO MIX IT UP, MOST PEOPLE DONT GIVE A SHIT! I USED TO PLAY AT A ITALIEN LINER BAR! AND THIS MAFIOSO USED TO MAKE ME PLAY THE FUCKIN TIESTOLYMPICS CD ALL THE TIME HE SAID TIESTO IS THE ONLYTRANCE DJ HE LIKES THAT SAYS IT ALL..........PEACE! wow reading some of you make me believe that you are dj for making money... you are not in a better place to built the oh so called rave hype! it's like when your kids and you play basketball, you do it for fun right?? well same fucking thing with techno music...some people make release, some people are better at it and get pay more?! what's the fucking problem..? there's just in quebec that i ear people whining like that. go work your assssss off on a release or an incridible technique and after i'm gonna pay you big time... like why am i paying one more than other? because duhhhh the guy fucking release 1000000 songs who are on the top chart in europe! heeellllllooooo? anybody fucking complain when they go at daft punk and pay alot...would u pay the same amount of money to go see the garage band at the corner of the street? NON! i don't think sooo. start to do it for fun and after do it for money yo. Update » Holly_Golightly wrote on Sat Jul 28, 2007 @ 11:29am oh! and you hipocryte! i repeat again: why all my mtl friends doesn't play more often in your rave when they have release on reputated labels and go in europe play when here they are never asked..
well they don't suck balls or are social cokewhore.. hahaha that's the fucking answer. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Sat Jul 28, 2007 @ 12:21pm |
 Coolness: 153080 | betty, im sorry that your friends dont play here as ofthen as you want them too, but there are several things that can influence a promoter to book a dj or not, ball licking is one, i know ball licking is big in mtl,
im a new producer, myself, and i dont ball lick, you better get booked for your talent than for your big mouth, because whats left when everything is over? the guy with talent, still has talent, but the other one doesnt have any promoters to suck but the promoter want people in his party, so he book dj that people like, there are really good producers/dj here, but they arent known enough in montreal, so they are not booked. its sad, but its the way life works... whats the point for a promoter to book alot of really good djs if nobody knows them? im talking in general, i dont know who are your djs and the djs that you say have no talent and are allways booked... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Sat Jul 28, 2007 @ 3:40pm |
| Coolness: 55575 | i wouldn't use out scene in mtl as any kind of example of how things should be... |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sabinonstop replied on Sat Jul 28, 2007 @ 5:10pm |
| Coolness: 92505 | hey i took out the caps lock!hope u werent addressing your rant towards me!cause i been playing
4 free since when you were in kindergatren!then got payed well untill the everybody wants to be a dj shit happened!there just seems to be a plague going on!why dont u try booking only mtl djs lower the price then see if theres much of a difference u may be surprised(im not plugging myself cause i havent played or really apreciate hardcore techno 4 ten years anyway)but the way u think seems more suitable 4 the house scene dommage!top chart in europe!!!!!!!!!!hello uh who gives a shit that means nothing 2 many american movies bad drugs your still young so im sure you will evolve be prosper .peace!!!!!!11 |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Sat Jul 28, 2007 @ 6:46pm |
| Coolness: 158810 | Originally Posted By SABINONSTOP
hey i took out the caps lock!hope u werent addressing your rant towards me!cause i been playing 4 free since when you were in kindergatren!then got payed well untill the everybody wants to be a dj shit happened!there just seems to be a plague going on!why dont u try booking only mtl djs lower the price then see if theres much of a difference u may be surprised(im not plugging myself cause i havent played or really apreciate hardcore techno 4 ten years anyway)but the way u think seems more suitable 4 the house scene dommage!top chart in europe!!!!!!!!!!hello uh who gives a shit that means nothing 2 many american movies bad drugs your still young so im sure you will evolve be prosper .peace!!!!!!11 hahahaha house scene! yeah right... hahaha you don't know me i can tell.. you are fucking condescending saying i should evolve and shit. shut up i was talking about techno and hardcore charts.. and i've been in alot of show backstage around the world. i'm friends with alot of producers who are honest even if they make good money. my husband already played at fucking mysteryland and thunderdome. i don't wanna be pretentious even if i sound like it now but: back off. i think i know a little about the bizness... and i love free rave party i think there is the real rave spirit. when you pay your djs locals or not and you ask for money at the door, that's for me a show. but yeah everyone is entitled to different opinions.. ps: and i studied in cinema so i know what is a fucking bad american movie. and i don't do drugs. and i'm already prosper:i'm rich bitch. like you said: peace |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sabinonstop replied on Sun Jul 29, 2007 @ 11:03am |
| Coolness: 92505 | your right i dont know u at all!im happy that your a rich bitch and all.antbody who can make a living....
wonderful.and u r right wining is pathrtic.me i work at comercial bars 4 a living (gotta pay my daughters clothes...ect)but play expecting nothing 4 what i beleive in....its just that ive participated in so many partys recently where all locals dont get payed(not even transportation!)becauseof imported djs who probably 5% of the crowd know! anyway keep up the good work! peace of mind.... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Holly_Golightly replied on Sun Jul 29, 2007 @ 11:31am |
| Coolness: 158810 | ^ you know what? hahaha i got into ypur profil and i was laughing because it seem you had played at one of the first big commercial party i have attended... enigma ! hahaha hope you got pay there! ;)
if i was a local i wouldn't hesitate to get contract signed. even if it's for a 25$.. except if it's a freeparty! or donation party! why in quebec people aren't doing that when everywhere in the world it's work like that??! Update » Holly_Golightly wrote on Sun Jul 29, 2007 @ 11:32am ps: when someone says: i'm rich bitch. they aren't telling you that they are bitch. they are making a dave chapelle joke..that's all. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Sun Jul 29, 2007 @ 1:43pm |
| Coolness: 55575 | a 25 dollar "contract" with a local promoter isn't worth the paper it's written on. Who would spend time and money in court to prosecute over a 25 dollar contract? If you don't trust the local promoter to pay you, then a contract isn't going to change that. Just don't play the show if you don't trust the promoter. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Sun Jul 29, 2007 @ 3:31pm |
| Coolness: 153080 | repent tokyo, its not about going to court
its about promoters changing the line up w/o advising the djs, like 1 h in advance, paying them less than the amount discuted, having bad gear and not telling dj to bring their needles in some case and ect when your the dj and something like that happens, its your reputation who is ruined because you seem like a whining dj, when everything was planned in advance, and changed without even noticing you... if you have a contract signed, you have proof that your not whining uselessly, and not ruining your reputation. some of that happened to me, and i dont blame the promoters because they are my friends, but if someone i dont personally know books me, says ill play a 4, and get paied 100$, lets say and once at the party you play at 10, and paied 20$, and there are no needles, no cdj, and he didnt even told you, you look like a jerk asking for more money, a better time slot, and not even equiped as a dj there should be contracts on every aspects, not for the court aspect, but to make sure everything is ok and settled in cement. |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Sun Jul 29, 2007 @ 6:40pm |
| Coolness: 55575 | several times i have been booked for parties where timeslots changed, or the gear was so bad that we had to re-wire the mixer to get it to work, during the set...and i have had contracts that were not respected. it still comes down to, what good is a signed contract if one of the parties chooses not to respect it? what do you do in that instance? |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Mon Jul 30, 2007 @ 7:16am |
| Coolness: 153080 | i dont know, but you can tell the other promoters/dj that its not your fault, and you have a proof, and this promoter will have less credibility as a promoter if you say it publicly, but its all your choice... |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» sabinonstop replied on Mon Jul 30, 2007 @ 11:47am |
| Coolness: 92505 | okay then why dont we start an i piss on tiesto voo doo thang,but maybe not!because i think he has cancer or something like that!
anyway i agree with u betty contracts r a must even with good frends because promoters often seem to be doing you a favor!i hate clubs but at least they always give me my do.. But at some partys i feel bad to ask 4 money when around 30 people work 4 free(ex:space gathering)all week! contracts often seem to handle nothing but as deadfunk said they r proof that the promoter didnt deliver and he will maybe have to manage his ethics if the non-payed dj vj s ...stick together! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Mon Jul 30, 2007 @ 1:20pm |
| Coolness: 153080 | thats right, and yes, i dont say, suck up money from non-profit party organisation, i say that when someone tell you something, he has to hold his talk...
ok ok, i dont konw whats 'tenir sa parole' in english! |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» mtl_mtl replied on Mon Jul 30, 2007 @ 1:26pm |
| Coolness: 55575 | keep his word. |
| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Deadfunk replied on Mon Jul 30, 2007 @ 5:06pm |
| Coolness: 153080 | hahahhaaaaa
lol |
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| Good [+1]Toggle ReplyLink» Because replied on Tue Jul 31, 2007 @ 12:31am |
 Coolness: 37125 | Originally Posted By SCREWHEAD
As much as I love that cartoon, it really can be applied to any type of electronic music. If it didn't, people wouldn't need, say, Lenny Dee and The Horrorist, Dieselboy, Andy C, John B, Afrika Bambata, etc.., to play their party, because after all, it's just music that the partiers want to hear, and not watch a self-indulgant egotistical self-proclaimed rockstar. exactly what i was gonna say. Sometimes it's so hard to know how to project your energy at a party...even if your dancing hard as hell...i still feel weird not dancing facing towards the DJ, even if he's boring as shit to watch. Having friends doesn't help, because you can't talk to them most of the time anyway, and when you're dancing you don't want to gaze into their eyes or anything. So VJs help the balance of power (All hail the TV!)...but somehow it still seems false. oh dilema. DJing is the most over-hyped profession in the world, you owl-sucking cyphers. *grin* |
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